Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Oct 3, 2021, 2:03 pm
#646
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Such a thing is nonsense. There is no year when all Burgundy wines are good or bad. We have a very wide range of wines across a huge geographical area. And I am still drinking excellent 2009 and 2010 wines from my cave so 2013 does not have to be too old for a good wine. And yes I have had very good 2013 Gevrey wines.
Oct 3, 2021, 3:23 pm
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Correct on SFO. I was there last week. The lounge does tend to be very full in the afternoon. Note also the food choices on Concourse A are still very limited. I did not eat in the AF lounge - saved room for the P meal.
Oct 3, 2021, 3:41 pm
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Not sure QF lounge has reopen in LAX knowing that QF almost don't fly at all. So no need for a lounge.
Oct 3, 2021, 4:28 pm
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Thank you! Is there any decent offering for P passengers like real champagne in the lounge? I have a layover of 2.5 hours at SFO and am wondering if the Delta SkyClub would even be a better option.
Oct 3, 2021, 6:13 pm
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DL might be better as you *might* get the DL Porsche ride to the lounge and again to the plane. I've gotten that when flying D1 so perhaps AF could kindly ask DL to give that service to P pax. Is your flight booked with DL?
Oct 3, 2021, 6:22 pm
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The topic of the Porsche ride is very interesting. This service actually started as a “surprise” service for Diamond Medallion and Delta360 members. Reading on FT I found out that there is no clear algorithm who gets the Porsche. I have been a Diamond member for a couple of years and I didn’t even get the Porsche transfer once. Even when flying D1 or AF P or with tight connections. I talked to the AF Station Manager at LAX about this because the new gates at TBIT are quite far away. She said that they had tried to reach an agreement with DL to offer the Porsche transfer for AF P passengers but DL had refused.
Oct 4, 2021, 8:27 am
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I am on an AF ticket. Domestic DL flight to SFO, then SFO-CDG in P.
The topic of the Porsche ride is very interesting. This service actually started as a “surprise” service for Diamond Medallion and Delta360 members. Reading on FT I found out that there is no clear algorithm who gets the Porsche. I have been a Diamond member for a couple of years and I didn’t even get the Porsche transfer once. Even when flying D1 or AF P or with tight connections. I talked to the AF Station Manager at LAX about this because the new gates at TBIT are quite far away. She said that they had tried to reach an agreement with DL to offer the Porsche transfer for AF P passengers but DL had refused.
The topic of the Porsche ride is very interesting. This service actually started as a “surprise” service for Diamond Medallion and Delta360 members. Reading on FT I found out that there is no clear algorithm who gets the Porsche. I have been a Diamond member for a couple of years and I didn’t even get the Porsche transfer once. Even when flying D1 or AF P or with tight connections. I talked to the AF Station Manager at LAX about this because the new gates at TBIT are quite far away. She said that they had tried to reach an agreement with DL to offer the Porsche transfer for AF P passengers but DL had refused.
Oct 4, 2021, 8:58 am
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Anyhow, back to AF LP, it is sad that DL won't help out AF and drive LP pax. But I guess AF could pay for it themselves. Flying in P I was driven from the plane at IAD a few years ago. That was in a large Mercedes van. It needed to be large because the A380 served IAD. But it at least proves that AF can drive passengers to the airplane at a US airport. And if you think that they did this at IAD for political dignitaries, forget that. The dignitaries get their own private car handled by the US State Dept as I have witnessed a few times.
Oct 4, 2021, 9:37 am
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Wow that would be a great opportunity to offer it given the distance to the new gates!
Oct 4, 2021, 4:01 pm
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).Air France lounges and contract lounges master thread
Oct 4, 2021, 9:38 pm
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Oct 5, 2021, 7:50 am
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There is always the P/S Private Suite at LAX option until AF finds an acceptable solution for LAX P pax. I used it for a connection to LX last month, and will do it next month for LAX-CDG. It’s a little pricey at $695 but worth avoiding miserable LAX and TBIT, IMO.
Once per year. But I agree it is a good choice in any case.