Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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May 6, 2016, 10:31 am
#2431
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: TXL
Programs: A3 Silver
Posts: 1,116
May 6, 2016, 11:33 am
#2432
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,959
The challenge certainly was finding 4 J seats on the same flights TPAC. But it is do-able.
May 6, 2016, 2:51 pm
#2433
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC: E50K, AP: dDiamond
Posts: 963
Aeroplan continues to be such a scam... I am more convinced than ever that it is literally programmed to simply order routings by most YQ!
I selected JNB-YVR (in First/Business) on my date and it proposed:
JNB-ADD (ET J)
ADD-FRA (ET J)
FRA-YVR (LH Y) ... $241.50/pax
I phoned in, and booked this (on the same date):
JNB-ADD (ET J)
ADD-YYZ (ET J)
YYZ-YVR (AC J) ... $54.62/pax
Was also able to argue successfully to waive the telephone booking fee given that it's a legal routing in all J that should have easily been available on the website.
Mark
I selected JNB-YVR (in First/Business) on my date and it proposed:
JNB-ADD (ET J)
ADD-FRA (ET J)
FRA-YVR (LH Y) ... $241.50/pax
I phoned in, and booked this (on the same date):
JNB-ADD (ET J)
ADD-YYZ (ET J)
YYZ-YVR (AC J) ... $54.62/pax
Was also able to argue successfully to waive the telephone booking fee given that it's a legal routing in all J that should have easily been available on the website.
Mark
May 6, 2016, 3:09 pm
#2434
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
That is low, even for the AE/AC algorithm to scam people by preferring AC over the water, even if in Y
May 6, 2016, 4:18 pm
#2435
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
The strange thing I've noticed is that the AP site seems to prioritize UA F awards over LH F.
For instance, I couldn't get FRA-EWR LH F space to show on the AP website even though UA and NH displayed availability on their website. All the F options were on UA. Called in and got the seat I needed in the end.
For instance, I couldn't get FRA-EWR LH F space to show on the AP website even though UA and NH displayed availability on their website. All the F options were on UA. Called in and got the seat I needed in the end.
May 6, 2016, 4:24 pm
#2436
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 25
One way 107,500 miles
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
May 6, 2016, 8:01 pm
#2437
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
One way 107,500 miles
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
May 6, 2016, 8:10 pm
#2438
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
A380 is often available on HKG-SIN in SQ J as well.
I'd say the best A380 F product available with Aeroplan has to be with LH. If you do that ex-HKG you'll save quite a bit in YQ.
May 8, 2016, 8:15 am
#2440
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 25
One way 107,500 miles
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
YYZ - ORD (UA J) 17 hour overnight
ORD - NRT (NH F)
NRT - BKK (TG F)
$461.46 (OUCH) plus booking fee.
Return one way 75,000 miles
HKG - HND (NH J) 22 hour overnight
HND - YYZ (AC J)
YYZ - YXU (AC Y)
$55.52 plus booking fee.
Could have saved over $300 if I just flew into HKG instead of BKK but I really wanted to try that A380 lol. You only live once.
Plus would much rather arrive mid day.YYZ - YUL (AC J)
YUL - IST (TK J) 10 hour connection
IST - BKK (TK J)
$77.86
May 8, 2016, 2:55 pm
#2441
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,353
SFO-IAH UA J (789, but my goal is to change to a later flight, as a 6am departure followed by 9 hours in IAH isn't exactly spectacular - although they are opening a Centurion lounge there "in 2016")
IAH-IST TK J
IST-ZRH TK J
$30 phone booking fee plus $14.60 in taxes/fees.
ATH-IST TK J
IST-LAX TK J
LAX-SFO UA Y (yuck - but better to get a placeholder in now)
$30 phone booking fee plus $99.40 in taxes/fees.
None of these are set in stone, but given my dates are somewhat fixed, I was thrilled to be able to book this as is.
I would like to try TK J, but LH F will win if it opens up in either direction. SFO-IST or IST-SFO would also beat out the IAH/LAX connections, if those flights open up.
IAH-IST TK J
IST-ZRH TK J
$30 phone booking fee plus $14.60 in taxes/fees.
ATH-IST TK J
IST-LAX TK J
LAX-SFO UA Y (yuck - but better to get a placeholder in now)
$30 phone booking fee plus $99.40 in taxes/fees.
None of these are set in stone, but given my dates are somewhat fixed, I was thrilled to be able to book this as is.
I would like to try TK J, but LH F will win if it opens up in either direction. SFO-IST or IST-SFO would also beat out the IAH/LAX connections, if those flights open up.
May 8, 2016, 3:28 pm
#2442
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YZR
Posts: 12
DPS-TPE BR Y
TPE-YYZ BR J
YYZ-YZR AC Y
$58.82 + 77500 Aeroplan Miles per adult + $100 for infant ticket.
Hoping J will open up on DPS-TPE segment.
Interestingly the return was cheaper in taxes and booking fees than our flights to Bali.
YYZ-HKG CX J
HKG-DPS CX J
90.20USD + 50000 Alaska Miles per person.
TPE-YYZ BR J
YYZ-YZR AC Y
$58.82 + 77500 Aeroplan Miles per adult + $100 for infant ticket.
Hoping J will open up on DPS-TPE segment.
Interestingly the return was cheaper in taxes and booking fees than our flights to Bali.
YYZ-HKG CX J
HKG-DPS CX J
90.20USD + 50000 Alaska Miles per person.
May 10, 2016, 5:03 pm
#2445
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,611