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Feb 27, 2004 | 2:22 pm

#46

sstackho

Join Date: Dec 2003

Location: Toronto, Canada

Posts: 156

Quote:

Originally posted by PointWeasel:
You've got a couple of FUN fares. They will earn 50% status miles. They are more expensive that the Econo L fares that are still around; the change fee is only $25 though versus $75 for L.

It is my understanding that since the ticket is to Miami, it will earn 100% status miles.

See https://www.aeroplan.com/en/collect/air_air_canada.jsp

All scheduled flights between Canada and Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, Las Vegas, Miami, Newark, New Orleans, Orlando, Phoenix, Tampa, and West Palm Beach.

For travel effective as of January 24, 2004

Fun:
R, I, G 100% of miles flown with a minimum of 500 Aeroplan Miles

Feb 27, 2004 | 10:37 pm

#47

PointWeasel

Join Date: Nov 1999

Location: HKG/MEX/YVR/YYF

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Quote:

Originally posted by sstackho:
It is my understanding that since the ticket is to Miami, it will earn 100% status miles.

See https://www.aeroplan.com/en/collect/air_air_canada.jsp

All scheduled flights between Canada and Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, Las Vegas, Miami, Newark, New Orleans, Orlando, Phoenix, Tampa, and West Palm Beach.

For travel effective as of January 24, 2004

Fun:
R, I, G 100% of miles flown with a minimum of 500 Aeroplan Miles

Glad that someone was paying attention! Thanks for correcting me, sstackho, I had domestic on my mind today...didn't even notice the MIA part.

Mar 2, 2004 | 3:02 pm

#48

PointWeasel

Join Date: Nov 1999

Location: HKG/MEX/YVR/YYF

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Quote:

Originally posted by PointWeasel:

Bump

That dreaded N fare is driving me crazy! If you book YYC-YVR on an N tango-type fare online at aircanada.ca you don't get an advanced seat assignment, but if you book online with travelocity, expedia or destina you do get advanced seat assignment. So all N fares are not created equally? The next fare level up on aircanada.ca goes up from $89 to $134; $45 each way for a confirmed seat? Gimme a break, AC.

I booked tickets for my parents to attend my UBC convocation in late May and tried to book on aircanada.ca; the Rural Route address error message popped up again and as I suspected, plus no pre-assigned seats were available for $89 fares each way.

This same fare booked on destina, travelocity or expedia ALL offer pre-assigned seats! I can deal with the low, low T fares...but N and E are not always a deal. This new simplified fare structure has many pitfalls.

Mar 2, 2004 | 3:22 pm

#49

Ken hAAmer

Join Date: Mar 2000

Location: YVR

Posts: 9,998

They're not "pitfalls." They are "design features."

Mar 3, 2004 | 7:43 am

#50

PointWeasel

Join Date: Nov 1999

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ken hAAmer:
They're not "pitfalls." They are "design features."

The glass is always half full for you, eh KH?

Mar 3, 2004 | 12:07 pm

#51

Andrew Yiu

Original Poster

Company Representative - Air Canada

Join Date: May 1999

Location: Canada

Posts: 24,224

Please note that ALL Canada/US flights including Hawaii will be under the same accumulation rules (no more distinguishing between destinations).

J will earn 150%.
C/Y will earn 125%.
All others will earn 100% except E/N/T will earn 50% NON status miles.

Will update initial posts.

Mar 3, 2004 | 5:34 pm

#52

shuuy

Join Date: Apr 2002

Location: +61

Programs: previous hero, now zero

Posts: 5,853

This is a change. And a good one!

Quote:

Originally posted by Empress:
Please note that ALL Canada/US flights including Hawaii will be under the same accumulation rules (no more distinguishing between destinations).

J will earn 150%.
C/Y will earn 125%.
All others will earn 100% except E/N/T will earn 50% NON status miles.

Will update initial posts.

Mar 3, 2004 | 5:53 pm

#53

diego rapido

Join Date: Jul 2003

Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Posts: 26

Empress, You have helped me (a TA) many times before. Could you please clarify the following. If I book a N class fare in the GDS - Galileo, will the reservation count towards status (re)qualification?? You mention that the N T and E fares can only bo booked online? The fare basis is as fdar as I can see not a Tango fare. We get conflicting answers from Air Canada reservation agents.
Thanks as always
Diego

Mar 4, 2004 | 7:42 am

#54

HeyAussie

Join Date: Mar 2004

Location: YVR

Programs: QF LTG AC *G

Posts: 373

Apologies if I'm a little slow on the uptake here, but I saw in an earlier post that 'Y' fare gains access to MLL, is this correct ?

My employer has started flying me on a semi-regular basis YVR-YWG and books me Y class even though the metal is ZIP. That MLL would sure be nice.

I've only just started flying *A, former OneWorld, will be doing quite a bit on AC, is there any real good reason for choosing Aeroplan over Mileage Plus ? Mileage Plus looks like a better program to me.

All advice gratefully received.

Mar 4, 2004 | 3:03 pm

#55

Andrew Yiu

Original Poster

Company Representative - Air Canada

Join Date: May 1999

Location: Canada

Posts: 24,224

Quote:

Empress, You have helped me (a TA) many times before. Could you please clarify the following. If I book a N class fare in the GDS - Galileo, will the reservation count towards status (re)qualification??

No. The booking class determines whether you earn status miles. So as long as it's E/N/T on a domestic or transborder flight, the answer would be no regardless of how it was purchased.

Quote:

You mention that the N T and E fares can only bo booked online?

There are still some N & T fares that can be purchased from the TA. But whehter it earns status miles - it's based on the booking class.

Mar 4, 2004 | 3:05 pm

#56

Andrew Yiu

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Company Representative - Air Canada

Join Date: May 1999

Location: Canada

Posts: 24,224

Quote:

Originally posted by HeyAussie:
[b]Apologies if I'm a little slow on the uptake here, but I saw in an earlier post that 'Y' fare gains access to MLL, is this correct ?

If it's a FREEDOM fare that was purchased on AC's website.

Quote:

I've only just started flying *A, former OneWorld, will be doing quite a bit on AC, is there any real good reason for choosing Aeroplan over Mileage Plus ? Mileage Plus looks like a better program to me.

You earn more miles if you're flying on 'Y' class and crediting to Aeroplan. 125% total miles vs. 100% on Mileage Plus. Do you fly enough to make any status on Aeroplan? (starts at 18,000 miles flown)

Mar 4, 2004 | 6:52 pm

#57

HeyAussie

Join Date: Mar 2004

Location: YVR

Programs: QF LTG AC *G

Posts: 373

Hi Empress,

Thanks for the reply. The fares are booked by our company travel agent (Uniglobe) so I guess they don't qualify ? The boarding cards say 'Y' on them.

I won't be racking up much mileage but may get status from number of sectors flown. I thought from UA's site that I would get 1.5 x segments and points from AC flights (in full Y class), this may be my misunderstanding.

[This message has been edited by HeyAussie (edited Mar 04, 2004).]

Mar 4, 2004 | 8:07 pm

#58

Simon

Join Date: Dec 2002

Location: YYZ/YOW

Programs: AC SE 2MM * DL MM * HH Diamond * Marriott Lifetime Titanium * Queen's '92

Posts: 5,986

Mileage Plus does not offer any class of service EQM on AC metal. You get bonus miles, as awarded by AC, but they do not qualify for MP status.

Simon

Mar 4, 2004 | 8:19 pm

#59

Andrew Yiu

Original Poster

Company Representative - Air Canada

Join Date: May 1999

Location: Canada

Posts: 24,224

Quote:

Originally posted by HeyAussie:
Thanks for the reply. The fares are booked by our company travel agent (Uniglobe) so I guess they don't qualify ? The boarding cards say 'Y' on them.

The boarding pass only shows either 'Y' or 'J' as that indicates class of service. The 'Y' on the boarding pass doesn't represent booking class. To see what booking class your ticket is booked in, you'll have to look at your Eticket and it'll say something like 'H-confirmed' or 'Y-confirmed' - that will show you what the booking class is.

Quote:

I won't be racking up much mileage but may get status from number of sectors flown. I thought from UA's site that I would get 1.5 x segments and points from AC flights (in full Y class), this may be my misunderstanding.

No bonuses for AC full Y if you credit to mileage plus.

Mar 4, 2004 | 8:39 pm

#60

HeyAussie

Join Date: Mar 2004

Location: YVR

Programs: QF LTG AC *G

Posts: 373

Thanks Empress/Simon,

The paper ticket says Y Confirmed on it. Maybe I'd be better to stick with Aeroplan, the redemption sucks though, more points for everything and from what I can tell on here, award seats are hard to come by.