100% Air Canada Voucher - DEAD looking for info
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Oh good lord..........and AC doesn't game the "overall" system.... ever?
In saying that, we all know when something is "too good to be true". I cannot remember off the top of my head, probably 12 years ago - but I found a $17.00/night rate in Thailand at a popular resort. I booked it and also immediately emailed the hotel to confirm. The difference here is they actually acknowledged the system mistake but guaranteed my room for a full week at the price. A little different with the cost of flights and the amount of people booking. I could pretty much guarantee the nobody else received that rate - it was all about timing for myself putting in dates etc., and the back end booking system. The hotel could have just as easily cancelled it - on this one, AC will.
In saying that, we all know when something is "too good to be true". I cannot remember off the top of my head, probably 12 years ago - but I found a $17.00/night rate in Thailand at a popular resort. I booked it and also immediately emailed the hotel to confirm. The difference here is they actually acknowledged the system mistake but guaranteed my room for a full week at the price. A little different with the cost of flights and the amount of people booking. I could pretty much guarantee the nobody else received that rate - it was all about timing for myself putting in dates etc., and the back end booking system. The hotel could have just as easily cancelled it - on this one, AC will.
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Air Passenger Protection, EU law and even Montreal Convention do not apply for industry insider tickets like the one you booked
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In fairness having worked with Gabor he seems to be about as above the board they come arguing only what is permissible under law. I doubt he will have much sympathy for sketchy discount codes randomly obtained which provide a 100% discount on the fare. Keep in mind too that passengers have to enter the sketchy code to get the fare to adjust down. This is much different from the bait and switch airlines do when they price their flights at an attractive price, then realize too many people are interested in the offer and revoke the deal and charge far more.
Air Passenger Protection, EU law and even Montreal Convention do not apply for industry insider tickets like the one you booked
Air Passenger Protection, EU law and even Montreal Convention do not apply for industry insider tickets like the one you booked
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This story begs an important question: why hasn't Air Canada updated their online booking system so that when you enter these 100% off codes it is very clear that these codes are only intended to be used by authorized AC employees or partners and that any unauthorized use will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This could be a pop up that appears after you enter the code, and perhaps the booking flow could be updated so that the border of the webpage has a red border with wording Air Canada Internal Use Only. Perhaps they would also have to tick a checkbox during booking agreeing that they are an authorized AC employee or partner too. I think if people we warned that they would get prosecuted, they'd simply turn away from the great deal they saw on Reddit. I am not a lawyer, but I suspect giving opportunists this warning several times could be used as evidence that the passengers willfully defrauded the airline versus it being a discount code they spotted online. Perhaps this episode will force AC to consider this option.
You're absolutely right with regards to fraudulently issued tickets. I'm also pointing out that even if it was a legitimate ticket, the provisions of consumer protection don't apply to these industry insider tickets. That's the price you pay for getting 90% off a business class fare (i.e. ID90 fare).
You're absolutely right with regards to fraudulently issued tickets. I'm also pointing out that even if it was a legitimate ticket, the provisions of consumer protection don't apply to these industry insider tickets. That's the price you pay for getting 90% off a business class fare (i.e. ID90 fare).
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This story begs an important question: why hasn't Air Canada updated their online booking system so that when you enter these 100% off codes it is very clear that these codes are only intended to be used by authorized AC employees or partners and that any unauthorized use will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This could be a pop up that appears after you enter the code, and perhaps the booking flow could be updated so that the border of the webpage has a red border with wording Air Canada Internal Use Only. Perhaps they would also have to tick a checkbox during booking agreeing that they are an authorized AC employee or partner too. I think if people we warned that they would get prosecuted, they'd simply turn away from the great deal they saw on Reddit. I am not a lawyer, but I suspect giving opportunists this warning several times could be used as evidence that the passengers willfully defrauded the airline versus it being a discount code they spotted online. Perhaps this episode will force AC to consider this option.
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Yes but those people are on Reddit and are not the intended audience of these codes. I would presume that Mystery Shoppers would be considered an authorized partner, along with AC employees that presumably have similar discount codes. Which begs the question, who would be neither an authorized AC employee or authorized AC partner that would qualify to use these codes? In any event, surely AC could afford to put some warnings in there for good measure to make it clear this isn't designed for general consumption.
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Notice: Reservation Cancelled
Dear Customer,
Please be advised that your reservation number XXXXXX for travel in XXXXXXXX 2024, has been cancelled as the form of payment you used for the fare is not valid.
Indeed, you used without right a rebate code that was not issued to you and was not permitted to be used for more than one booking.
The taxes and fees paid using your credit card will be refunded using the same payment method.
Air Canada Support Desk
Customer Contact Centres
Dear Customer,
Please be advised that your reservation number XXXXXX for travel in XXXXXXXX 2024, has been cancelled as the form of payment you used for the fare is not valid.
Indeed, you used without right a rebate code that was not issued to you and was not permitted to be used for more than one booking.
The taxes and fees paid using your credit card will be refunded using the same payment method.
Air Canada Support Desk
Customer Contact Centres
Preemptively cancelling the ticket is the least of concerns.
The worst is if they serve you papers saying you participated in activity you were not entitled to and then freeze/cancel your account or ban you from travelling.
You've seen airlines doing this with skiplagging and more recently Aeroplan revising their legal terms multiple times reserving the right to terminate "misrepresented" accounts.
The worst is if they serve you papers saying you participated in activity you were not entitled to and then freeze/cancel your account or ban you from travelling.
You've seen airlines doing this with skiplagging and more recently Aeroplan revising their legal terms multiple times reserving the right to terminate "misrepresented" accounts.
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Yes but those people are on Reddit and are not the intended audience of these codes. I would presume that Mystery Shoppers would be considered an authorized partner, along with AC employees that presumably have similar discount codes. Which begs the question, who would be neither an authorized AC employee or authorized AC partner that would qualify to use these codes? In any event, surely AC could afford to put some warnings in there for good measure to make it clear this isn't designed for general consumption.
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As I said before, I'm aware of two other scenarios where 100% codes are issued, having been offered both, and flown one. I was neither a mystery shopper, an employee, or a partner.
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Obviously I guess I'll never find out, but I was just curious to see how this had spread and how far it had gone before expiring.