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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by Symmetre
Canada has two official languages. As long as he can speak one of them, who cares?
There is reason, but then there is emotions.

Same thing perhaps if it were the reverse? Or not?

Anyway, I am starting to think perhaps it was unwise for AC to pick someone who was not bilingual.

But what I definitely know is that I did not like that they appointed a bean counter as their head guy. A lawyer was bad enough, but now an accountant... But of course as we know in this part of the world engineers are supposed to be whores. :-(
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by yulred
I’ll bite: how would you respond to “how have you managed to live in Montreal for 14 years without learning French?”

There is IMHO no answer that would have not caused offence.

His response - that it was a testament to Montreal that an Anglo can live here without speaking French - basically amounted to calling it a global metropolitan city, which was the only avenue left open to him.

Not that it needs to be said, but Montreal’s global status is directly attributable to its ability to accommodate transitory anglos from the world over for years on end.

Perhaps Rousseau should invest in a “Just Visiting” t-shirt :P. Might not help with those calling for his resignation though.
We really are not that far apart and I agree wholeheartedly with much of what you and others here say (this is why this will blow over), it really was the tone in which it was said that struck a nerve. He was even previously warned by Legault's cabinet to be careful that day so not like AC PR did not have time to prepare a much better sound bite to a question they knew would be asked. It came across as "I live in Westmount and never leave, I don't get this French thing here in Montreal". Yes, Montreal caters to 'world-class' workers in global industries that do not need to learn french but they ones that stay here seem to appreciate that the french language does give Montreal a je-ne-sais-quoi that is different than the anglo cities on the continent. It is this nuance that he singularly failed to provide for in his tone deaf answer.

"I don't feel comfortable expressing myself in public in French" would have been the best answer to give, the radical PQ nutjobs would have still screeched about it but the broader francophone population (especially in Montreal) would not have reacted as strongly than in this case.

As I said, I was intimately involved in the asinine language battles of the 70s (fdraliste vs sparatiste), it impacted my life in very personal and negative ways (my father killed himself in 1978 burned out by the politics when I was 8 years old) so I am very aware of the real costs of these populist battles, unlike a lot of the media commenters that have no skin in the game except keeping their names in the news. No one wins from these battles but people in positions of leadership such as the CEO of a bilingual nations airline should have more common sense expected from them than this person.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar
We really are not that far apart and I agree wholeheartedly with much of what you and others here say (this is why this will blow over), it really was the tone in which it was said that struck a nerve. He was even previously warned by Legault's cabinet to be careful that day so not like AC PR did not have time to prepare a much better sound bite to a question they knew would be asked. It came across as "I live in Westmount and never leave, I don't get this French thing here in Montreal". Yes, Montreal caters to 'world-class' workers in global industries that do not need to learn french but they ones that stay here seem to appreciate that the french language does give Montreal a je-ne-sais-quoi that is different than the anglo cities on the continent. It is this nuance that he singularly failed to provide for in his tone deaf answer.

"I don't feel comfortable expressing myself in public in French" would have been the best answer to give, the radical PQ nutjobs would have still screeched about it but the broader francophone population (especially in Montreal) would not have reacted as strongly than in this case.

As I said, I was intimately involved in the asinine language battles of the 70s (fdraliste vs sparatiste), it impacted my life in very personal and negative ways (my father killed himself in 1978 burned out by the politics when I was 8 years old) so I am very aware of the real costs of these populist battles, unlike a lot of the media commenters that have no skin in the game except keeping their names in the news. No one wins from these battles but people in positions of leadership such as the CEO of a bilingual nations airline should have more common sense expected from them than this person.
I apologize wholeheartedly if I touched a raw nerve , and offer my sincere commiseration. As the handle suggests, I have a much closer relationship with Montreal and Quebec than I let on, so Im familiar with the nuance - and agree wholeheartedly about the je-ne-sais-quoi ethos of that city. (FWIW, I am bilingual in Canadian terms, and quadrilingual in universal terms.)

Its true that he could have said he wasnt comfortable expressing himself in French, but I would counsel against that if he doesnt know any French (which i suspect is the case). There were gaffes to be sure, but again, I think it was unfair to pose those questions to him at a scrum about an aviation event. I may be wrong, but I think its fair to say that nobody would go after the non-QC based CEO of X bank or Y telco if they came to Montreal and gave a speech in English. Which suggests to me that he was being targeted. Makes it that much more challenging to navigate these kinds of minefields.

Im reluctant to get into the broader political debate on the issue, but I equally feel that hes become a scapegoat in a confrontation that he never sought a role in, which is fundamentally unfair.

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There is reason, but then there is emotions.

Same thing perhaps if it were the reverse? Or not?

Anyway, I am starting to think perhaps it was unwise for AC to pick someone who was not bilingual.

But what I definitely know is that I did not like that they appointed a bean counter as their head guy. A lawyer was bad enough, but now an accountant... But of course as we know in this part of the world engineers are supposed to be whores. :-(
It depends on what the role of the CEO is. If you want them running the business, get the candidate best suited for the job. If you want them to be the public face of the organization - the one you expect to navigate the political minefields of the day (and lets be clear - there are many, many PR minefields these days, not just language-related ones) appoint the best candidate for that.

Investors currently seem to be focusing on the former more than the latter so, short of nationalizing the airline, the likelihood of bilingualism being a requirement is pretty low.

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Same thing perhaps if it were the reverse? Or not?
I'd have no problem if it were the reverse, provided the person was the most qualified, competent pick.

That said, I do agree with your comments on lawyers and accountants ... as CEOs, legal beagles and bean counters have ruined more businesses than all other backgrounds combined.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by NordsFan
Then I guess you would be just as suprised to learn that lots of people named Smith, Ryan or Cavanagh (and the long list goes on...) are ?
I didn't say I was surprised someone named Rousseau didn't speak French. My wife's maiden name is of French origin, but neither she nor any of her relatives several generations back speaks any French, and there are a bunch of people like that out in western Canada. But AC is a corporation headquartered in Quebec that has had a bunch of executives with francophone (or bilingual) backgrounds. In that context, my assumption was that a guy named Rousseau who's running the company probably had some French in his background and would speak both languages.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar

As I said, I was intimately involved in the asinine language battles of the 70s (fdraliste vs sparatiste), it impacted my life in very personal and negative ways (my father killed himself in 1978 burned out by the politics when I was 8 years old) so I am very aware of the real costs of these populist battles, unlike a lot of the media commenters that have no skin in the game except keeping their names in the news. No one wins from these battles but people in positions of leadership such as the CEO of a bilingual nations airline should have more common sense expected from them than this person.
I am very sorry about your loss. That is a very tough thing to deal with as a child (or at any age). Having lived through the separatist business as well as growing up in the 1970s and 1980s my sense is that anyone who leads a big company or has a public role in Quebec needs to be finely attuned to the hyper sensitive nature of language politics in the province. The AC CEO clearly was not, and whether or not the strong reaction against his behaviour is justified or not it is a good leader's job to understand the nuances. He did not and that reflects badly upon him and the company.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by Symmetre
I'd have no problem if it were the reverse, provided the person was the most qualified, competent pick.
I would not have problems either way. As I said, there is reason. But my point was, would that be the consensus, or would there be many people reacting emotionally?
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
Anyway, I am starting to think perhaps it was unwise for AC to pick someone who was not bilingual.
Because they would be able to better respond to trap questions by troll reporters?

Quebec nationalists who care enough about such things to use it as a basis for choosing which airline to use already have a Quebec "national" airline that gets their business.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by yulred

It depends on what the role of the CEO is. If you want them running the business, get the candidate best suited for the job. If you want them to be the public face of the organization -
Being the public face is an intrinsic part of the job. One cannot separate the two.

But anyway, the question they asked him was clearly rhetorical. Did not really call for an answer. He fell for it... Instead of giving them a smile and going on with his life.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger
Being the public face is an intrinsic part of the job. One cannot separate the two.

But anyway, the question they asked him was clearly rhetorical. Did not really call for an answer. He fell for it... Instead of giving them a smile and going on with his life.
Thats fair, although my (weak) counter would be that hes good enough at this public stuff 95% of the time - just not when hes dragged into issues like this, which, fortunately are few and far between.

Anyway, never thought Id be defending an AC CEO ever, but given the public abuse heaped on the guy - literally being told to resign over this - I think its gotten a little too personal and unfair.

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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 1:40 pm
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Agree 100%.

.......This too shall pass and will not have a big impact on AC's brand in Quebec, except amongst the chattering classes. Most folks just want to get a good fare for a winter holiday in FLL, ORD and CUN.

A winter holiday at ORD? ? You are a hearty group of travelers
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 1:55 pm
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A winter holiday at ORD? ? You are a hearty group of travelers
Good catch ! I meant MCO !

I'll go back and edit !
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by RangerNS

Quebec nationalists who care enough about such things to use it as a basis for choosing which airline to use already have a Quebec "national" airline that gets their business.
Nationalism equals inferiority complex, often a strong one. Whether French, American, Chinese, Brazilian, Flemish, whatever, a huge emotional issue. Unmotivated provocation by a businss won't do anyone any good. You cannot look at emotions from a rational perspective.
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Originally Posted by yulred
Its true that he could have said he wasnt comfortable expressing himself in French, but I would counsel against that if he doesnt know any French (which i suspect is the case). There were gaffes to be sure, but again, I think it was unfair to pose those questions to him at a scrum about an aviation event. I may be wrong, but I think its fair to say that nobody would go after the non-QC based CEO of X bank or Y telco if they came to Montreal and gave a speech in English. Which suggests to me that he was being targeted. Makes it that much more challenging to navigate these kinds of minefields.

Im reluctant to get into the broader political debate on the issue, but I equally feel that hes become a scapegoat in a confrontation that he never sought a role in, which is fundamentally unfair.

It depends on what the role of the CEO is. If you want them running the business, get the candidate best suited for the job. If you want them to be the public face of the organization - the one you expect to navigate the political minefields of the day (and lets be clear - there are many, many PR minefields these days, not just language-related ones) appoint the best candidate for that.

Investors currently seem to be focusing on the former more than the latter so, short of nationalizing the airline, the likelihood of bilingualism being a requirement is pretty low.
There is a difference between the CEO and COO. The CEO is by the nature of the role a forward external facing role. He should be effective at representing the organization enterally. If not, then perhaps he should be the COO or one of the other executive that are internally facing.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by TravellingSalesman
A CEO who deliberately or by gross neglect spits in the face of a major customer base? Sure, customer service is not his are, but some basic PR skills are surely part of the package for a CEO?
I would not say that Montrealers are a major customer base for AC. Most of their traffi is YYZ/YVR based and they heavily depends on international connecting traffic. AC could care less what Quebecers/Montrealers think of the CEO not speaking French.

Are they now going to fly with WestJet which is YYC based and basically anglophone. Typical Quebecers....creating a language issue when there isnt one. Since when do CEO of private companies need to be bilingual??
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