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Q: I've taken the flights I need to extend my status to end of 2022. Why does my status still show expiring in 2021?
A: Firstly, your status cannot possibly be updated before the flights have posted to your Aeroplan account. If all of the flights haven't posted yet, your status will not update.

As of December 8, even existing AC elites whose status was extended months ago still show December 2021 status expiry. There is no clear timeline for when status will be extended, other than that it should happen in December.

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A: Although the T&C refer to a round trip, an FTer confirmed with StatusMatch that two one-ways would suffice.

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A: No.

Q: Which Select Privileges should I choose?
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Old May 27, 2022, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by asovse1
Have talked to a few people who did a status match today. Surprisingly, some people including myself did not get this e-mail.

Common factors for those who got this e-mail:
- repeated domestic travel, did not have flights touching the US with this FFP attached
- two separate people shared an address with another Aeroplan Elite Status holder who qualified in 2016 thru 2019
- submitted the status match form from Canadian IP addresses
- Canadian-issued co-branded credit cards. Some of them do have the Chase card as well, which I would perceive as sufficient KYC on Chase's end that they were US residents to begin with

I'm kind of annoyed I didn't get the e-mail because while I have my documents ready to prove, I don't want to lug them around for an upcoming hand baggage only sabbatical in case they ask for it later
I have a Google Drive folder with:
  • Passport photo page
  • Both sides of green card
  • Both sides of ON ID
  • Both sides of CA ID
  • All my vaccine stuff
  • maybe some more I'm forgetting
That being said, it all comes with me on every trip...

But I don't think it would be too difficult to make a digital copy of these things if you don't want to carry them around.
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Old May 27, 2022, 3:38 pm
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Yeah I really have no excuse, maybe the threat of Aeroplan "Elite Team" breathing down my neck is large enough fire to light under me...

Time to get an SF Public Library card to use their scanners, maybe I can submit a picture of that, too!
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Old May 27, 2022, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by altitude75k
Got this email today - I guess things must be getting better when you get an email like this from AC
Perhaps they're realizing how much money the rampant fraud on this program is costing them and trying to stem their losses.
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Old May 27, 2022, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Perhaps they're realizing how much money the rampant fraud on this program is costing them and trying to stem their losses.
I have a AMEX card from AP so I think this is the reason. Guess you can't work and live in the US and have the credit card?
Typical AP AC move - the rules were you fly a return and get status for a year. This midway reneg is tacky on AP AC but what did you expect?
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Old May 27, 2022, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by altitude75k
I have a AMEX card from AP so I think this is the reason. Guess you can't work and live in the US and have the credit card?
I don't know what criteria they're using to evaluate whether or not people are US residents and trigger this review; @asovse1 has speculated on that above. It's certainly possible to be a legitimate US resident and have a Canadian AC co-branded credit card; we have a bunch of them on this board. If any of those people are being caught up in this review, I'm sure it's a mildly annoying inconvenience.

Typical AP AC move - the rules were you fly a return and get status for a year. This midway reneg is tacky on AP AC but what did you expect?
No, the rules were you had to be a US resident and have status with a US airline to be eligible. A number of people posted in this thread about not even faking a US address on their Aeroplan profile and being approved. Others entered fake US addresses. Some faked US airline status. Some submitted fake US airline status and weren't US residents (whether they used a fake address or not).

Those people committed fraud, plain and simple, and if AC is finally trying to weed them out, I have no sympathy for them.
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:15 pm
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I did a match with my AA EP and my address went from Asia to Canada for mailing reasons as I was moving around for work. So status was real but I find this AC AP of having to prove myself again very annoying as it does feel like a reneg. Don't accept in the first place if you don't keep your word for a year status - this is typical of AC/AP which I find tacky. I will submit my electric bill but still disagree midway to do send proof once again.
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
I don't know what criteria they're using to evaluate whether or not people are US residents and trigger this review; @asovse1 has speculated on that above. It's certainly possible to be a legitimate US resident and have a Canadian AC co-branded credit card; we have a bunch of them on this board. If any of those people are being caught up in this review, I'm sure it's a mildly annoying inconvenience.



No, the rules were you had to be a US resident and have status with a US airline to be eligible. A number of people posted in this thread about not even faking a US address on their Aeroplan profile and being approved. Others entered fake US addresses. Some faked US airline status. Some submitted fake US airline status and weren't US residents (whether they used a fake address or not).

Those people committed fraud, plain and simple, and if AC is finally trying to weed them out, I have no sympathy for them.
I don't have any sympathy with the fraudsters either and as specially not after seeing the pics here, with hordes of people lining up outside the MLL's to get in.

But when it seems that you would have been approved, residing in Mickey Mouse's house at Disney world, AC is to blame as well. At least for waisting the legit people's time, half way through the complimentary year.
They should have weed the majority of them out, before issuing them with any kind of elite status.
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:26 pm
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Alright, I'm definitely overthinking this one but it's a half-serious/half-joke post so I won't edit my post above speculating what factors might have triggered the review...but my nerdy passion for this issue doesn't want it left unsaid

It's also not really a knock on the "Elite Team" for not covering this scenario in their sweep because it sounds pretty niche

But two of the four people I've talked to who received the e-mail exclusively use their physical Elite status card and have not remembered a reason for when they'd used the one in app
- They needed to be physically present at their US (home!!) address to pick up this card, and if they forwarded it, USPS only does so domestically
- The physical card includes the BIN number and last digit checksum that the scanner accepts and records, the Aztec code in the app, or your boarding pass barcode doesn't and includes more strings of information. Surely AC can distinguish the two when invoiced by Star Alliance partners for lounge access...
- no data points on the use of the card's mag strip but i assume that's just a way for retail partners like Home Hardware to invoice Aeroplan anyway
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by asovse1
Alright, I'm definitely overthinking this one but it's a half-serious/half-joke post so I won't edit my post above speculating what factors might have triggered the review...but my nerdy passion for this issue doesn't want it left unsaid

It's also not really a knock on the "Elite Team" for not covering this scenario in their sweep because it sounds pretty niche

But two of the four people I've talked to who received the e-mail exclusively use their physical Elite status card and have not remembered a reason for when they'd used the one in app
- They needed to be physically present at their US (home!!) address to pick up this card, and if they forwarded it, USPS only does so domestically
- The physical card includes the BIN number and last digit checksum that the scanner accepts and records, the Aztec code in the app, or your boarding pass barcode doesn't and includes more strings of information. Surely AC can distinguish the two when invoiced by Star Alliance partners for lounge access...
- no data points on the use of the card's mag strip but i assume that's just a way for retail partners like Home Hardware to invoice Aeroplan anyway
Swiping the physical card in the US doesn't mean you're a US resident.
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:41 pm
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I have no skin in this, but channelling the nerdiness...

Originally Posted by asovse1
- They needed to be physically present at their US (home!!) address to pick up this card, and if they forwarded it, USPS only does so domestically
They could have someone at the US address put the card in another envelope with appropriate postage and never be present at the US location.
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:43 pm
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good points both of you

maybe it's best i suck at thinking like a fraudster
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Old May 27, 2022, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by altitude75k
I did a match with my AA EP and my address went from Asia to Canada for mailing reasons as I was moving around for work. So status was real but I find this AC AP of having to prove myself again very annoying as it does feel like a reneg. Don't accept in the first place if you don't keep your word for a year status - this is typical of AC/AP which I find tacky. I will submit my electric bill but still disagree midway to do send proof once again.
What do you mean proving yourself "again"? In the vast majority of cases, AC didn't do any verification of US residency in the first place. Did they ask you for anything previously?
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Old May 27, 2022, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
What do you mean proving yourself "again"? In the vast majority of cases, AC didn't do any verification of US residency in the first place. Did they ask you for anything previously?
When you submit your AA EP status that was the requirement - I will send my electric bill but this is clearly bait and switch. You promise a timeframe and gave it so stick to your word but then again this is AC
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Old May 27, 2022, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by altitude75k
When you submit your AA EP status that was the requirement - I will send my electric bill but this is clearly bait and switch. You promise a timeframe and gave it so stick to your word but then again this is AC
No, the requirement was that you be a US resident. They did not ask for verification of that at the time of the status match, but that doesn't change the requirement.
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Old May 27, 2022, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by altitude75k
When you submit your AA EP status that was the requirement - I will send my electric bill but this is clearly bait and switch. You promise a timeframe and gave it so stick to your word but then again this is AC
I don't think you understand what bait and switch means.

If you're legitimately a recipient of the offer, you'll send the information and be fine.

If you're not, you got a half a year of free scammed status.
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