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Basics Back to top

Q: What is an eUpgrade?
A: eUpgrades (sometimes referred to as “eUps”) are a benefit of elite status with AC that allow elites to upgrade to a higher cabin (business class / Signature class, a.k.a. “J”, or premium economy, a.k.a. “PY” or “PE”).

Q: Are eUps automatic, like on Delta/AA/United?
A: No, you have to request one online or with a phone agent. You have to have sufficient eUpgrade credits (which, like the concept of eUpgrades, are often referred to as "eUps"), with an expiry date at least equal to the date of your flight, to make the request. If you don’t request an eUp, AC has no problem letting you sit in your original cabin, even if it means letting seats in J/PY go out empty.

Q: How many eUpgrade credits do I need for my flight?
A: Here's the official eUp chart (last updated by AC in October 2020; current as of at least December 2023)

Q: How are the number of required eUpgrade credits calculated for multi-segment itineraries? Is it by adding the cost of upgrading each segment individually, or for the end-to-end journey?
A: As long as your travel is continuous (without a >24hr stopover), then the number of eUpgrade credits required is for the end-to-end journey. Example, if you are travelling from YVR-YYZ-FRA, then the cost of upgrading both segments will be the same as though you had just a single segment from YVR-FRA. In some cases this may mean that a shorter segment is "free" (has no marginal cost). Note that you must clear each segment individually.

If you request an eUpgrade for AAA-BBB-CCC, but only the BBB-CCC segment clears, you will be charged eUp credits applicable only to the upgraded leg.

Q: I’m booked in economy on an aircraft with both PY and J cabins. Can I request an upgrade to both?
A:
No. You can request PY only, or you can request J and be listed for both J and PY.

Q: Can I confirm an upgrade to PY, then request an upgrade to J?
A:
Nope. Once you confirm a PY upgrade, that’s it.

Q: If I don’t clear my upgrade to J, can I still get upgraded to PY?
A:
Yes, if your upgrade doesn’t clear until the gate, you will be on the list for both J and PY, including the seats newly-vacated by people booked in PY who cleared their eUp to J at the gate.

Q: Are eUps guaranteed once they're confirmed?
A:
Not quite. For example, you won't get bumped out of an eUp just because somebody with higher status requested one after yours was confirmed. However, in very rare circumstances, for example if your plane gets swapped for one with a smaller (or no) business cabin, you might lose your eUp. See this thread for details. Further note that Air Canada generally takes the approach that a downgrade-from-eUp for operational reasons (equipment change, broken seat, etc) shall not receive any meaningful compensation, since you flew in the cabin you paid for.




Timing & Availability Back to top

Q: When can I request an eUpgrade?
A: You can request an upgrade as soon as you book the flight, with the exception of the travel companion benefit (person on same flight but not on same PNR; see below for details). Travel companion eUpgrade requests need to be made by airport staff after the flight opens for check-in.

Q: When can I confirm (or "clear") my eUpgrade?
A: You have to be within the "clearance window" that applies to your status and fare type. The windows are detailed in the AC eUp requirements document.

Q: Can you be more specific?
A:
All upgrades that clear in advance of the gate are subject to upgrade space being available. In addition:
  • for flexible fares (Latitude and Premium Economy Flexible): If upgrade space is available (more on that below) you can confirm an eUpgrade immediately after booking, even months in advance.
  • for non-flexible fares (Standard, Flex, Comfort, Premium Economy Lowest): You have to be within the clearance window in the document linked above, which ranges from 3-14 days, depending on fare brand, route, and status.
Exception: if you have no status, you can only clear an upgrade on a Latitude or Premium Economy Flexible fare 7 days in advance (non-flexible fares cannot be upgraded).

Q: What does "upgrade space" mean?
A:
Upgrade space (also known as R space - see below) refers to the number of seats that Air Canada are prepared to let people upgrade in to, in advance. This is not the same as the number of business seats that are available for sale. If Air Canada think that they will be able to sell all of the business seats on a plane (by the time of the flight) then they might not make any upgrade space available for that flight, even a full year in advance.

Q: I see a lot of people talking about "R space" or "R0", what does that mean?
A:
In short, R is the fare bucket Air Canada uses to make eUpgrade space available. If R is greater than zero, there are eUp spaces still available. If R = 0, then anyone who's requested an eUp will be waitlisted.

Q: What if I only want to upgrade to Premium Economy?
A:
Replace "R" with "N".

Q: The AC website tells me whether my upgrade request will be confirmed or waitlisted. Is it reliable?
A:
No. The website may tell you you’ll be waitlisted, when in fact your upgrade will be confirmed right away. Or it may say there’s space available even though you’ll be waitlisted. This is true of both the upgrade availability displayed during the booking flow as well as the eUpgrade website. The only exception being that if you’re outside your clearance window, the website should pretty reliably tell you that you’ll be waitlisted.

If the website tells you you’ll be upgraded, then waitlists you, you may be able to phone in to have the eUpgrade cleared, or not. If there’s R space, it’s likely they will be able to clear the upgrade.

Q: I’m waitlisted on a flight that’s R0. Will AC release more R space before the flight? Do I have to wait until the flight to find out whether I’m upgraded?
A:
AC might release more R space tomorrow (or clear your upgrade without creating any R space). Or they might never clear any more upgrades on that flight. If you’re still waitlisted, your upgrade may clear at the gate.

Q: What does “at the gate” mean?
A:
The upgrade list is typically processed 5 minutes after check-in for the flight closes. Check-in generally closes 45 minutes before domestic flights and 1 hour before international flights, meaning the upgrade list gets run at T-40 or T-55, as applicable (although occasionally it will be delayed). Even if your upgrade doesn’t clear at that point, it’s theoretically possible to still be upgraded if someone else in the cabin doesn’t show up.

Q: Is there a way to check my position on the upgrade list? To ensure I am on the list?
A: The mobile app will have a "Standby and Upgrade" list available at T-24 hours on the Flight Status page. Note that the order of the list may not be the order in which they process eUpgrades and only people checked in will show on the list. If you are upgraded you will receive a check mark beside your name?

Q: I boarded the plane but am still hoping for an upgrade; however, my name is no longer on the list? Does that mean I won't get upgraded?
A: Once you are marked as boarded in the system your name will no longer appear on the mobile app. There is much debate on what policy is once boarded; however, many feel "You Board, You Lose" and once boarded you are not likely to be upgraded using eUpgrades as the gate agents must process that transaction manually.

Q: So is there a chance that my upgrade might clear after I have boarded?
A: Probably not. Although this has happened on occasion, it's not a normal or automated or routine occurrence. Generally speaking, once you have boarded your name is removed from the upgrade list and you'll be sitting in the seat you boarded for. See this thread for details.

Q: How can I find the R space for my flight?
A:
Using a paid service like ExpertFlyer. If you ask nicely and don't overdo it, many FTers with EF accounts will help you in the Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread.

Q: So, WHEN should I check for R space for my flight?
A:
This depends on your status and what kind of fare you have, so please read and keep in mind the confirmation windows mentioned above.
  • If you have (or are about to purchase) a flexible fare (Latitude and Premium Economy Flexible), then by all means check now since your upgrade could also clear immediately. If your plans are flexible, this can be a useful strategy to help find specific flights that could clear immediately well before the ‘normal’ confirmation windows.
  • If you don’t have one of the flexible fares mentioned, R space viewed on something like ExpertFlyer is only useful when you get close to your confirmation window. Checking before that is probably a waste of time.

Q: I heard a rumour that paid Latitude fares can eUp even when R=0. Is this true?
A:
Sometimes; it's complicated. Senior execs at Aeroplan have said that “in some cases” a Latitude or PE Flex cash fare (including Flight Pass Latitude Bookings) might clear an eUp even when R=0, but they've also been very clear that they will not be releasing the exact method by which this is determined, and that the same thing is less-often true for award Latitude / PE Flex. In other words, it may happen but don't assume it, and there are lots of times when it simply never happens.

Q: My flight shows R=1 (or more), and I'm within my window, but my upgrade has not cleared.
Answer depends on how close you are to the flight.
  • Within 36 hours of departure Your upgrade can't clear until the gate.
  • More than 36 hours from departure: Cancelling the request and then requesting again may solve it. Or you may be able to solve it by phoning in. Or you may not, because it's AC.

Q: I have a pending upgrade and I am looking at the mobile app - who are all those other people listed?
A:
The list shows everyone who wants to sit in a cabin that they're not currently confirmed in. If you see a name listed for both PY and J, they're trying to upgrade from Y; names listed only for J are trying to upgrade from PY.

Q: What are my chances of clearing an eUp for [FLIGHT] on [DATE] if I have [STATUS]?
A:
All we can do is make an educated guess. Lots of business travel gets booked last minute, or pilots need to reposition, or any of a dozen other things that might turn J9 in to J0 just before departure.

Q: But the seat map shows [x] seats occupied. Surely that means my odds are [good][bad]?
A: STOP LOOKING AT THE SEAT MAP. STOP LOOKING AT THE SEAT MAP. STOP LOOKING AT THE SEAT MAP.

Seriously, stop looking at the seat map. The seat map is not an accurate guide to the number of seats available in the cabin. Many people do not select their seats when booking, which can mean more seats have been sold than show as occupied on the seat map. On the other hand, due to IT glitches, seats are sometimes shown as blocked when there are waitlisted eUps or staff members on passes (see this thread for details). So the seat map may show more seats available than there truly are, or fewer. Or it may be correct. There’s no way to know for sure.

So stop looking at the seat map.

Q: I see people talking about "Aerolotto", what is that? Can I bet eUps?
A:
Aerolotto is a slang term for waiting at the gate to see if your eUp clears, or you're stuck in the original seat you paid for.

Q: I want to upgrade my flight on date X, but all my eUps expire on date Y, where Y < X. Can I upgrade?
A: NO. To eUp any flight, at any time, you need to have credits that are still valid on the date of the flight.



Earning and Validity Back to top

Q: How long are eUpgrades good for? When do they expire?
A: It depends on when the eUpgrade is deposited in your account.
  • eUpgrade earned January 1st - June 30th: Valid until January 15th of next calendar year
  • eUpgrade earned July 1st - December 31st: Valid until January 15th two calendar years later

Q: When do I need to use them by?
A: An eUpgrade needs to be used for a flight departing prior to 23:59 local time (where your flight departs) on the day your eUpgrade expires.

Q: Can I delay picking my benefits package until after July 1st to have eUpgrades have the later expiry year?
A: Yes. Picking your benefit after July 1st will have your eUpgrades deposited with an expiry year two years after the deposit date.

Q: I have an Amex Reserve / VISA VIP card that offers eUpgrade rollover. When I try to apply eUpgrades to a flight next year, it doesn't work. Why?
A: The eUpgrade rollover feature does not extend the expiry date of your eUpgrades. Those eUpgrades will expire, and you'll be issued new eUpgrades with a new expiry date. The T&C of these programs state that the rollover eUpgrades will be deposited by March 30, but it in 2022 and 2023 they were deposited before the end of January. Because of this quirk, it is not possible to use eUpgrades that would be rolled over. This thread on Aeroplan rollover benefits has more detailed information.

Q: Can I buy eUpgrades?
A: No. Generally you can only earn eUpgrades through a benefit package or SQM thresholds.



Upgrading Multiple Passengers Back to top

Q: I want to use my eUp credits to upgrade somebody else. Is this possible?
Are they on the same booking (“PNR”) as you?
  • Yes: You can upgrade a maximum of three passengers on a booking. If the booking has more than three passengers, you can't request an upgrade for any of them, before the day of travel. You can split the booking so that it has at most three passengers, then upgrade it, although splitting bookings can come with other, negative consequences.
  • No, but they’re on the same flight: You can request the upgrade at the airport on the day of travel; AC refers to this as upgrading a "travel companion".
  • No, and they’re not on the same flight: No, unless you’re Super Elite. If you’re Super Elite, you can designate a nominee, and you can upgrade this person on any flight they’re on. Your nominee selection stays in effect until January 17th of each year, and you only get one per status year. You cannot upgrade anyone else on your nominee's PNR.

Q: I'm trying to upgrade a travel companion on my flight, but the agent has no idea how. What do I do?
A: Tell the agent to go to the "customer" tab, select "upgrade", then select "use other FQTV".

Q: What's the maximum number of people I can upgrade on a flight
Are you Super Elite?
  • No: 5 (yourself + two people on the same PNR + two travel companions)
  • Yes: 6 (yourself + two people on the same PNR + two travel companions + nominee)

Q: I am SE and want to upgrade my nominee but they are on a PNR with multiple people and the system won't let me? Why not? What now?
A:
You can't have multiple people on the same PNR living in different cabins so the eUpgrade system will not allow you to request the eUpgrade. You may need to call in to AC (or Aeroplan if it is a flight reward) and ask them to split the PNR so that the person you want to upgrade is on their own PNR, at which point your eUpgrade should be fine. This shouldn't impact the ticket or incur a fee. But once you split the PNR you cannot join it back.

Q: I am SE and want to upgrade my nominee and their companion traveling on the same PNR. Is this possible?
A:
No.

Q: Can I upgrade my nominee on a flight that departs after January 17th?
A:
Yes, you should be able to upgrade them on any flight, regardless of departure date (subject to having eUps with sufficient validity).



Payments and Refunds Back to top

Q: If I don't get upgraded, or my flight gets cancelled, do I get the eUps back?
A:
Yes, eUps get refunded if your upgrade doesn't clear or your flight is cancelled (whether AC cancels it or you do). This should happen automatically shortly after the flight in most cases. If your eUps don't get returned to your account, fill out the form on this page.

Q: The eUpgrade I want to use has an additional cost. When will I be charged?
A:
eUpgrade add-ons are charged to your credit card when the eUpgrade is cleared, although AC may place a hold on the card before that.

Q: I'm a Super Elite and I'm still being charged for add-ons. Why?
A:
Super Elites are only exempt from eUpgrade add-on charges on international business-class flights (except for Standard tickets.)

Q: Will I be refunded my add-on payment if I cancel a booking that successfully cleared an eUpgrade?
A: There are no refunds on add-on payments.

Q: I paid extra for a Preferred Seat in Economy, does that fee get refunded if my upgrade request is successful?
A: There is no refund on preferred seats if you are upgraded.

Q: Do I earn Status Qualifying Dollars (SQD) for any eUpgrade add-on fees?
A: Yes, eUpgrade add-on fees paid where applicable earn SQD. This applies to fares paid in cash and with Aeroplan points. The SQD from the add-on will post as a separate transaction and may not post at the same time as the SQM/SQS/SQD from the flight itself.

Q: Who earns the SQD? If I upgraded someone using my eUps, do I get it?
A: SQD is earned by the passenger who was eUpgraded – who paid for the eUps or for the add-on doesn’t matter.



Priority for eUps Back to top

Q: What is the priority for eUpgrades?
A:
Upgrade priority at the gate:
  1. Cabin: If you're in PY, you're ahead of everyone in Y
    • Note: for upgrades to PY only, the requested cabin also appears to matter - AC appears to process anyone who requested, and didn't receive, an eUp to J, before those who requested an upgrade to PY (i.e. a 25K on a Flex fare who requested, but failed to clear, an upgrade to J would get a PY upgrade before an SEMM on a Latitude fares who only requested an eUp to PY). Note that this has not yet been extensively tested by FTers and is based on order on the publicly available upgrade list
  2. Status: There are several sub-priorities within status, listed in order of importance:
    1. Elite status; VIP > SE > 75K > 50K > 35K > 25K
    2. MM status; 2MM+ (no distinction between 2MM, 3MM, etc) outranks MMs, who outrank those with MM status
    3. Do you have a Premium credit card (TD/CIBC VIP or Amex Reserve) or not? (Other cards convey no eUp priority benefit)
    • To illustrate: any VIP > SE 2MM+ with credit card > SE 2MM+ > SE MM with credit card > SE MM > SE with credit card > SE > any 75K
    • If two passengers are on the PNR, the priority might be based on the highest status, regardless of who requested the upgrade, per this post
  3. "Fare": Brand comes first (PF > PL; LT > CO > FL > ST), so a low Comfort fare is higher priority than Flex M. Within a brand, fare class matters. If you bought your ticket through another airline, and you don't have a brand, they infer a brand based on the fare class.
    Fare class hierarchy:
    • PY fares: O > E > A > N
    • Y fares: Y > B > M > U > H > Q > V > W > S > T > L > K > G
  4. Check-in time: As indicated by your sequence number

Upgrade priority prior to the gate is similar, with possible exceptions for full-fare (Latitude / Premium Economy Flexible) bookings. In the old system, a 25K on a Latitude fare would be ahead of a SE on a Premium Economy Lowest fare prior to the gate. Time of upgrade request replaces check-in time.

Q: How can I tell where I rank for an upgrade?
A:
After check-in opens, the AC app has an upgrade list where you can see the people on the waitlist for J and PY. Note that the list is not only for eUps, but also includes customers on standby and some employees travelling on passes, and possibly others.

Q: How do those other things rank relative to eUpgrades?
A:
Staff on pass travel generally rank below eUps, while others may effectively rank ahead of or behind eUps.

Q: Is the app always correct?
A:
Unfortunately not. Sometimes the order is wrong, and sometimes people are missing from the list entirely even though they’re actually on the waitlist for an upgrade (and we have numerous reports of eUps clearing even when people weren’t showing on the public list)



eUpgrades & Partner Airlines Back to top

Q: Can I use eUps if I credit my mileage on an Air Canada flight to another airline?
A:
Yes. To request an eUpgrade, your Aeroplan number has to be on the file. Crediting to another FFP requires changing your Aeroplan number after check-in.

Q: Can I use eUps on partner operated flights (such as United, Lufthansa, etc)?
A:
No, you can only use eUps on flights operated by aircraft with "Air Canada" written on the outside.

Q: Can I use eUps on an Air Canada operated flight that was booked through a partner?
Answer depends on what type of booking you have made.
  • Cash tickets (i.e. not points): Yes, but with some complexity as to when and how you can request the upgrade.
    Is your AC flight a codeshare (a flight marketed by the other airline but operated by AC, e.g. marketed as UA5678, operated by AC as AC1234)?
    • No: you should be able to request it as usual via the eUp site
    • Yes: you can eUpgrade that -- but not before the day of the flight. You may only request an upgrade with an Air Canada agent at the airport, or at the departure gate on your day of travel.
  • Points tickets (United MileagePlus, Avianca Lifemiles, etc): No. These tickets cannot be upgraded.



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Old Nov 28, 2021, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by capedreamer
Interesting morning that made it clear even Concierge agents aren’t sure how the system works.

At about T-2 hours for AC103 YYZ-YVR at 8:00am, I was 2nd on the upgrade list with J showing 14/16 booked and 14 checked in. If the upgrade wasn’t going to clear, I was prepared to switch to a direct YYZ-PHX flight at 11:00am. So I stop by the Concierge office to inquire about my chances and the fare difference if I decide to make the change.

The Concierge agent, though very friendly, seemed a bit unfamiliar with how the upgrade system works. First, he expressed surprise that the app showed me 2nd on the list. Apparently, his system showed me 3rd or 4th, with either deadheading crew or VIPs or additional SEs ahead of me (he wasn’t totally clear about it). He then called another agent to clarify, saying that the pre-planning seatmap didn’t show my name in any of the seats, but that there was a “regrade with an up arrow next to [my] name”. They discussed it some more and eventually told me “ok we sorted out the confusion, and your app is correct”.

Ultimately, the upgrade did clear at the gate, which I found out via the text / email notification. The gate agents started boarding before processing the upgrades, so they were already at Zone 3 by the time my upgrade cleared. According to the gate agent, this is SOP for YVR flights.

All’s well that ends well I suppose, but definitely kept me on my toes.
This part is very normal since boarding needs to start before the cut off when they start processing upgrades. This is where the term YBYL (You board you lose) comes from - if you decide to board before they run those upgrades then you fall off the upgrade list. Glad to hear you got the upgrade, enjoy.
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Old Nov 28, 2021, 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by TOR27
This part is very normal since boarding needs to start before the cut off when they start processing upgrades. This is where the term YBYL (You board you lose) comes from - if you decide to board before they run those upgrades then you fall off the upgrade list. Glad to hear you got the upgrade, enjoy.
That's not where YBYL comes from, and the upgrading (or not) of boarded passengers is much more complicated than that.
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Old Nov 28, 2021, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by TOR27
This part is very normal since boarding needs to start before the cut off when they start processing upgrades.
That's not correct. They run the upgrade list 5 minutes after check-in closes. Generally, for domestic, check-in closes at T-45, for international, T-60. Some flights will start boarding before T-40/55, but most don't - I've rarely seen 223s boarding at T-40, for instance, and if you're flying, say, an E75 from EWR to YYZ, the inbound might not even have arrived at T-55, let alone boarding having started.

Widebodies on domestic flights probably have the highest probability of boarding beginning before the upgrade list gets run, but even then, I've seen plenty of (not delayed) domestic widebodies that don't start boarding until after T-40.

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Old Nov 28, 2021, 10:42 am
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Oh, a 28J 77W will definitely start boarding before upgrades are processed on a domestic flight. I've seen that dozens of times.

But the upgrades get a lot a more complicated once you board.

I tried to snipe an upgrade from someone who had already boarded, but the system was fighting the GA, which made the GA investigate, and then realized I was, in fact, not number 1.

The more they automate things, the less your knowledge matters.
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 9:53 am
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Uhhhh I just had my 75k elite e upgrade credits deposit into my account today. I realized by checking into my flight and seeing tons of extra e upgrades. I didn’t select benefits for 2022 but got the same amount deposited as the 2021 selection. Am I missing something? I have almost 120 e upgrades now …
Non AC CC holder here. Status passes and lounge passes are not deposited still I only see 2021s still.

On transaction history page it shows Renomination expires Jan 15 2023. With the added credits. What does this mean? Am I going to get to select e upgrade credits or did AC do this for me in advance for 2022?

but I can tell you that my account updated again with the pop up motivation saying I achieved status on the AC app. I got the notification that I qualified for 75k. This is the second time I got the notification, once when I completed the RT requires for status match and this time because I managed to hit the 25k threshold in less than a month.

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Old Nov 29, 2021, 6:12 pm
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Looking to book my first flight with e-Upgrades/comparing with Expert Flyer...looking to ensure I'm doing it right:
1/Found the flight I'm looking for, has e-Upgrade availability so booking with points/Latitude fare so that I can do an instant upgrade


2/I've checked ExpertFlyer and can see >2 R fare available:




Question #1 - If I book this flight with a Latitude fare, and then go to my eUpgrade dashboard, I will clear immediately, correct?

4/If I do a trip from my home airport (YCD), I see the connecting flight to YVR always shows blank (no R code since it's just a 15 minute hop over the water) -

Question #2 - If I book this flight with a Latitude fare, and then go to my eUpgrade dashboard, will it clear or will it be stuck?
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by theranj
Question #1 - If I book this flight with a Latitude fare, and then go to my eUpgrade dashboard, I will clear immediately, correct?
It should.

Question #2 - If I book this flight with a Latitude fare, and then go to my eUpgrade dashboard, will it clear or will it be stuck?
Upgrades are requested segment by segment. It doesn't matter that there's no J on one of the segments. That segment will just say "not available'. It doesn't interfere with the ability to upgrade the other segments.
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Old Nov 29, 2021, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
It should.
....
Thanks, just wanted to make sure. Just booked and sure enough I clicked eUpgrade in my confirmation e-mail and got the immediate upgrade for 16 eUpgrades.

First perk of 25k status...Flight would have been $4,600 right now, or $1,120 if I paid economy...ended up paying 95k points, $165, and 16 eUpgrades. Too bad hotels are crazy right now...will figure that out later
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Old Nov 30, 2021, 7:32 am
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Hi, Sometimes there is little tips or understanding how the system works from the experienced ones.

Is there any benefit / difference in putting in your e-up requests immediately after booking for the waitlist and just wait until your window arrives or is there any benefit to wait until your upgrade window opens and do it then?
......assuming it doesn't make a difference but thought I would ask.

I am a lowly 25K so upgrades are far and few between.
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Old Nov 30, 2021, 7:36 am
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I would put in my request at the earliest time. There is a certain level of randomise with Air Canada and releasing seats, particularly in the upgrade window. You have little to lose by being as high up in the upgrade list as possible.
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Old Dec 1, 2021, 12:43 am
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I just booked, in Latitude B:
AMS-YYZ-SFO
SFO-YYZ-ZRH-BER

The website was showing "not available" (that is, no checkbox at all - nothing about available/waitlist) for J upgrades on YYZ-ZRH (only PY), but the other 3 AC segments were fine.

So after making the change outlined in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33773277-post53.html, it still wouldn't even let me put in a request, so I had the agent do it. All 4 segments immediately cleared.

I didn't check availability before hand on anything other than YYZ-ZRH, but right now:
AMS-YYZ: R9
YYZ-SFO: R1
SFO-YYZ: P3 R0

YYZ-ZRH was, and is: Z9 P0 R0
So the new system can definitely be better for upgrades than requiring P class on international.
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Old Dec 1, 2021, 7:46 am
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Can someone share the detail that was added about E-Up extensions, Admin - perhaps add in the wiki as could be helpful in here. I the below issue, that being said I have earned 48 credits since Sept 1, I think more should be on the later expiry of 2023. I do have the black Amex to roll over 50, trying to determine if I do SR as I am 3 short of the first threshold reward
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Old Dec 1, 2021, 11:38 am
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I did the status match to 50K, got 20 eUpgrades, then selected 20 additional as my additional benefit. I flew two segments on Nov 21st which I believe should have extended my status, then on Nov 23rd I got 40 eUpgrades deposited through the 2022 year. I figured that was a positive indication that my status match is confirmed for 2022 but the posts in here about other mysterious eUpgrade deposits make me question it. Especially since I didn't re-select the additional eUpgrades as my additional benefit for 2022:


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Old Dec 1, 2021, 1:22 pm
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Upgradeable fares

Have not flown in two years. I forget everything. I need to go to The west coast and they offer a fully refundable fare. Is thus upgradeable on the spot? I am SE
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Old Dec 1, 2021, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Wings100
Have not flown in two years. I forget everything. I need to go to The west coast and they offer a fully refundable fare. Is thus upgradeable on the spot? I am SE
Info from AC

https://www.aircanada.com/content/da...rements_EN.pdf





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