What Routes do you wish AC flew?
#196
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto
Programs: BA Exec Club - Demoted to Bronze and re-promoted to Silver alongside AC Elite 50K (gold) in 2022
Posts: 393
I'd like Halifax to London Heathrow and St John's to London Heathrow please.
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route.
Given the ex WOW A321s, the ex SQ A330 lions, keeping on the 767s, liberal use of Rouge and Jazz, and currently Omni Air to cover for MAX capacity- these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
So Halifax and St john's to London please
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route.
Given the ex WOW A321s, the ex SQ A330 lions, keeping on the 767s, liberal use of Rouge and Jazz, and currently Omni Air to cover for MAX capacity- these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
So Halifax and St john's to London please
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#197
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: YEG
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#198
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MLL / AC Cafe
Programs: It's hard to get status when the website won't let me book flights.
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#199
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK *G
Posts: 3,099
Random thoughts, any chance AC doing YYZ to smaller European cities such as MAN, DUS? From my knowledge many people travel to smaller European cities either by taking a connecting flight, either on sam eticket or on separate ticket, or use another mode of transportation. Some airlines in US, Middle East, and Asia fly to these cities. Any thoughts on why or why not AC should launch these flights?.
Some of my thoughts are:
1. The demand in J may simply not be there.
2. 787 is too big, 7M8 is the right size but currently grounded
Some of my thoughts are:
1. The demand in J may simply not be there.
2. 787 is too big, 7M8 is the right size but currently grounded
#200
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,264
I remember flying AC DUS-YYZ. I used to fly into FRA 4 times a year, but one time my passport( and paper ticket) was stolen in FRA and I had to go to Bonn for a replacement .
It was easier to fly home from DUS than FRA. This was in the mid-1980's,when AC still had First Class on all European flights.
It was easier to fly home from DUS than FRA. This was in the mid-1980's,when AC still had First Class on all European flights.
#201
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ideally YOW, but probably not
Programs: AC SE*MM
Posts: 1,827
I remember flying AC DUS-YYZ. I used to fly into FRA 4 times a year, but one time my passport( and paper ticket) was stolen in FRA and I had to go to Bonn for a replacement .
It was easier to fly home from DUS than FRA. This was in the mid-1980's,when AC still had First Class on all European flights.
It was easier to fly home from DUS than FRA. This was in the mid-1980's,when AC still had First Class on all European flights.
#202
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
#203
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK *G
Posts: 3,099
I mentioned DUS because AC used to fly there way back then, and LH flew there till 2014 I believe.
#206
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: Bottom feeder Star Gold
Posts: 2,652
I'd like Halifax to London Heathrow and St John's to London Heathrow please.
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route... these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route... these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
For more than three decades, a "national flag carrier" in Canada has not existed. Air Canada is a private corporation, and a shareholder/board-driven enterprise. If any given routes don't make a satisfactory profit, or if other routes make more money, there is no obligation at all for AC - or any other airline - to offer service. There are four other provinces and three territories that also lack a direct link to Europe; are we to expect that Air Canada must initiate such routes to tick off these boxes?
Sorry Maritimers, there is currently no capacity to offer nonstop service to Europe from where you live. Until (if) the Max returns, you must choose between a connecting flight or paying a rather large premium to convince AC to resume your nonstop pond hop.
It ain't personal - it's business.
#208
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506
#209
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
I love these threads
YVR-PTY (I'd actually prefer Copa flies this, but really I'd take either one)
YVR-BOG (selfishly, I know there's really no market for this one though)
YVR-BKK (don't think there's enough demand for that)
YVR-MNL (PR flies this daily, AC send plenty of people to partners to MNL, I always kinda wonder why they don't think they can make it work)
YVR-South Florida (FLL/MIA/MCO, I'm surprised AA doesn't run MIA as a red eye all year round from here, but I'm sure they know more than I do on the subject)
YYZ-JNB would be nice
Really I only care about YVR as I live and work here I'm selfish, sue me haha
YVR-PTY (I'd actually prefer Copa flies this, but really I'd take either one)
YVR-BOG (selfishly, I know there's really no market for this one though)
YVR-BKK (don't think there's enough demand for that)
YVR-MNL (PR flies this daily, AC send plenty of people to partners to MNL, I always kinda wonder why they don't think they can make it work)
YVR-South Florida (FLL/MIA/MCO, I'm surprised AA doesn't run MIA as a red eye all year round from here, but I'm sure they know more than I do on the subject)
YYZ-JNB would be nice
Really I only care about YVR as I live and work here I'm selfish, sue me haha
#210
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: YYT
Programs: AC E35k, HHonors Silver
Posts: 743
I'd like Halifax to London Heathrow and St John's to London Heathrow please.
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route.
Given the ex WOW A321s, the ex SQ A330 lions, keeping on the 767s, liberal use of Rouge and Jazz, and currently Omni Air to cover for MAX capacity- these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
So Halifax and St john's to London please
Oh hang on - AC DID operate them until the MAX saga kicked in. Forcing folk from Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to transit via YUL and YYZ continues 10 months on!
The 319's used to serve St John's to LHR and the 767 from Halifax before the MAX took over and downgraded the whole product on the route.
Given the ex WOW A321s, the ex SQ A330 lions, keeping on the 767s, liberal use of Rouge and Jazz, and currently Omni Air to cover for MAX capacity- these two routes currently leave two provinces without a direct link to Europe (and they're the closest) - hardly the role of a national flag carrier
So Halifax and St john's to London please
I don't have any illusions that AC offer YYT service out of some commitment.. It's the money honey. I've been on the direct flight enough to see when it is woefully undersold & I wasn't surprised when WJ pulled out of YYT-LGW a few years back. There simply isn't the demand for two carriers on this route, no matter how much local politicians and talking heads bloviate about the government should do something to get a direct flight to UK and one to Ireland please, to support tourism.
I do fear that the longer the route is suspended, the more chance there is that it will simply never come back. So my ask is please, when you have an aircraft that is suitable for this route, please reinstate it. Heck, bring CGTIP and CGITR (the old A319 ETOPS birds) in as Rouge, that'd be better than nothing!
For more than three decades, a "national flag carrier" in Canada has not existed. Air Canada is a private corporation, and a shareholder/board-driven enterprise. If any given routes don't make a satisfactory profit, or if other routes make more money, there is no obligation at all for AC - or any other airline - to offer service. There are four other provinces and three territories that also lack a direct link to Europe; are we to expect that Air Canada must initiate such routes to tick off these boxes?
Sorry Maritimers, there is currently no capacity to offer nonstop service to Europe from where you live. Until (if) the Max returns, you must choose between a connecting flight or paying a rather large premium to convince AC to resume your nonstop pond hop.
It ain't personal - it's business.
Sorry Maritimers, there is currently no capacity to offer nonstop service to Europe from where you live. Until (if) the Max returns, you must choose between a connecting flight or paying a rather large premium to convince AC to resume your nonstop pond hop.
It ain't personal - it's business.