Air Canada moving to Amadeus; Communication issues with AP/AC post-migration result
#931
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
Other opinions are available no doubt.
#932
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ideally YOW, but probably not
Programs: AC SE*MM
Posts: 1,827
Your iff part is the key. It isn't "K8s magic" it is a an orchestration platform, architecture choices, an underlying PaaS, etc. in combination that allow some flexibility. If they containerize a legacy application in to some datacenter you're not going to get some scaling magic for free, and in fact your problems are probably going to be even worse before you started with K8s. And that is pretty much going to be the case here. There isn't come magic cavalry coming to solve problems for AC IT.
#933
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
Regarding an inability to add Payment Information, I have the same issue. Despite my Flight Pass claiming I have a payment card on file, my profile shows no such thing.
Attempting to add and save payment information results in the following error message:
"We are temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again later. (81005)".
Temporary in this case means since migration and AC saying it was "business as usual".
Attempting to add and save payment information results in the following error message:
"We are temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again later. (81005)".
Temporary in this case means since migration and AC saying it was "business as usual".
#935
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,570
Your iff part is the key. It isn't "K8s magic" it is a an orchestration platform, architecture choices, an underlying PaaS, etc. in combination that allow some flexibility. If they containerize a legacy application in to some datacenter you're not going to get some scaling magic for free, and in fact your problems are probably going to be even worse before you started with K8s. And that is pretty much going to be the case here. There isn't come magic cavalry coming to solve problems for AC IT.
The quality of AC data, and the ability to program Amadeus are different questions, but the problem is not "scale".
#937
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Seat 1A
Programs: Non-status paid F/J (best value for $$$)
Posts: 4,124
Read more at:
https://amadeus.com/en/portfolio/air...egment-control
https://amadeus.com/en/portfolio/airlines/journey-data
With AC's old RESIII system, it appears that due to technical limitations, Married Segment Logic from other carriers is not carried over, thus allowing you to book journeys on a segment by segment basis.
With Married Segment Logic, the availability of a second (usually connecting) sector depends on the previous sector.
Eg.
Available Individually ONLINE (using individual queries):
YVR-FRA LH I "Yes"
FRA-BOM LH I "Yes"
However, if booked by agent in two entries:
AN12DECYVRFRA/ALH
YVR-FRA LH I "YES"
SS1I1
YVR-FRA LH I "Confirmed"
AN13DECFRABOM/ALH
FRA-BOM LH I "No" (might sometimes show as "yes")
SS1I1
FRA-BOM LH I "Unable to Confirm"
When searched as one query "YVR-BOM, CONNECTING FRA":
AN12DECYVRBOM/XFRA/ALH
YVR-FRA LH I "No"
FRA-BOM LH I "No"
If you are lucky "YVR-BOM, CONNECTING FRA":
AN15DECYVRBOM/XFRA/ALH
YVR-FRA LH I "Yes"
FRA-BOM LH I "Yes"
Book as one entry "SS1I1I2" -> Confirmed!
Last edited by daniellam; Nov 25, 2019 at 12:04 pm
#938
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYC
Programs: A3, AC
Posts: 140
Is the "Change Flight" button broken as a result of the Amadeus move? Worked fine prior to the move, and even after the move it allowed me to click on it. Now on that same booking it's grayed out and tells me to call Reservations.
#939
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 319
Regarding an inability to add Payment Information, I have the same issue. Despite my Flight Pass claiming I have a payment card on file, my profile shows no such thing.
Attempting to add and save payment information results in the following error message:
"We are temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again later. (81005)".
Temporary in this case means since migration and AC saying it was "business as usual".
Attempting to add and save payment information results in the following error message:
"We are temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again later. (81005)".
Temporary in this case means since migration and AC saying it was "business as usual".
I just tried to add my payment info on the AC site... same error message as you.
#941
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
Another DP regarding e-ups.
Just tried to upgrade a FP flight booked before the migration.
Couldn't do it from either the FP page or from the list on the My Bookings page. In both cases the message was that it wasn't eligible for upgrade, which is incorrect.
(As an aside, the site also reported the fare as Economy Lowest as opposed to Flex M, which is what it really is. So something ain't right.)
So, instead I typed in my PNR and name into the "Retrieve Booking" box (despite the same PNR being on the bookings list on this page) and, lo and behold, the resulting page shows the right fare class and lets me upgrade. Here's the relevant content:
Dunno why it should make a difference but for those having e-up issues online maybe just try the same 'trick' of entering your new PNR into the Retrieve Booking form and see what happens.
Completely bonkers though.
Just tried to upgrade a FP flight booked before the migration.
Couldn't do it from either the FP page or from the list on the My Bookings page. In both cases the message was that it wasn't eligible for upgrade, which is incorrect.
(As an aside, the site also reported the fare as Economy Lowest as opposed to Flex M, which is what it really is. So something ain't right.)
So, instead I typed in my PNR and name into the "Retrieve Booking" box (despite the same PNR being on the bookings list on this page) and, lo and behold, the resulting page shows the right fare class and lets me upgrade. Here's the relevant content:
Dunno why it should make a difference but for those having e-up issues online maybe just try the same 'trick' of entering your new PNR into the Retrieve Booking form and see what happens.
Completely bonkers though.
#942
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
So for now, I'm all good with all of my trips. I even had post migration AQMs and AQDs (for trips booked prior to migration) show up correctly on my Altitude account. I think I've got horseshoes, but they might be running out shortly, methinks.
*knock on wood*
#943
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 733
While I appreciate the cluster that is the current situation at AC, suggestions like this are a contributing factor as to why SEs are sometimes facing ridiculous wait times. It also places the AC agents in an uncomfortable situation as well.
Other opinions are available no doubt.
Other opinions are available no doubt.
And I would not try to call if the website worked in the first place. All I am trying to do is to book JFK-ZUR-KBP. Both flights are available but the engine won't piece them together. When I did get through last week, the rep said he could do it, I just needed to transfer the miles. And the game began...
#944
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
#945
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Prior to the upgrade window, after the window opened and after the agent manually cleared the upgrade, this is what I saw on my booking.
Like @Bohemian1 , my upgraded trip page now has this message.
I get the 3rd comment that we may have already received the upgrade. Well, then don't include it under a red-colored alert button that says
Upgrade not available
We're sorry, it appears none of the flights in your itinerary are eligible for an upgrade:
followed by point 3, that you may have already received a confirmed upgrade.....
Try not to confuse people with mixed messages.
Like @Bohemian1 , my upgraded trip page now has this message.
I get the 3rd comment that we may have already received the upgrade. Well, then don't include it under a red-colored alert button that says
Upgrade not available
We're sorry, it appears none of the flights in your itinerary are eligible for an upgrade:
followed by point 3, that you may have already received a confirmed upgrade.....
Try not to confuse people with mixed messages.