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Jul 16, 2017, 8:47 am
#16
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I think the more logical explanation is that there is a "rush to the exits" that didn't exist before.
Same number of seats overall "available" each month, but many times the number of people trying to cash out vs say July of 2016 when nobody thought their points program was about to go bankrupt.
Same number of seats overall "available" each month, but many times the number of people trying to cash out vs say July of 2016 when nobody thought their points program was about to go bankrupt.
However, I did give an example a couple of weeks ago on a YYZ-YOW flight where less than 24 hrs out, not a single biz class seat had been sold, yet there was no IKK availability. Now that stinks!
Jul 16, 2017, 9:51 am
#17
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A month and still waiting...
I'm SE and trying to book
AC direct
June 1, 2018
BNE (Brisbane) to YVR (Vancouver)
and I have 9 Priority bookings available.
I started trying to book on AE since availability opened mid June. My buddy with no status booked J through AE on the day it became available. As soon as he booked, AE availability in J vanished and has not returned. I check every day since mid June, but nothing. Most relevant though, is the fact that my buddy is the only occupied seat in the J cabin!
AC direct
June 1, 2018
BNE (Brisbane) to YVR (Vancouver)
and I have 9 Priority bookings available.
I started trying to book on AE since availability opened mid June. My buddy with no status booked J through AE on the day it became available. As soon as he booked, AE availability in J vanished and has not returned. I check every day since mid June, but nothing. Most relevant though, is the fact that my buddy is the only occupied seat in the J cabin!
Jul 16, 2017, 10:34 am
#18
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I just tried to switch two segments from Y to Rouge J for a trip next week, AC 1853, 07/23/17, and AC 1852 on the 29th, J9/R5, J9/R9, respectively.
AP couldn't do anything for me.
I did not verbally invoke SE to the AP agent, maybe that would have helped.
AP couldn't do anything for me.
I did not verbally invoke SE to the AP agent, maybe that would have helped.
Jul 16, 2017, 11:08 am
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Why would you tell the agent you are already a SE? They already know.
Jul 16, 2017, 12:09 pm
#20
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I would think so. But I'd also think they could put me in one of the empty J seats.
I might try again later and then through the week. I know its DEFCON that week in Vegas, but then, its always something in Vegas.
I might try again later and then through the week. I know its DEFCON that week in Vegas, but then, its always something in Vegas.
Jul 16, 2017, 12:11 pm
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If there was R inventory IKK should have been available. Perhaps you needed to ask for it?
Jul 16, 2017, 12:43 pm
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I always mention "Super Elite priority". It avoids the typical "there's no space".
That's not strictly true, though with R5, I would expect some IKK availability.
Jul 16, 2017, 1:35 pm
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Jul 16, 2017, 3:17 pm
#24
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Rookie SE here with some AE questions
1) What is IKK?
2) The 10 Priority Awards are applicable how? I assume each way per person is an award used? Meaning 4 people return on Priority flights would be 8 rewards used, correct?
I've got 4 separate itineraries to book via AE for travel in Oct/Dec and want to be able to maximize my return and understanding.
1) What is IKK?
2) The 10 Priority Awards are applicable how? I assume each way per person is an award used? Meaning 4 people return on Priority flights would be 8 rewards used, correct?
I've got 4 separate itineraries to book via AE for travel in Oct/Dec and want to be able to maximize my return and understanding.
Jul 16, 2017, 3:21 pm
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Rookie SE here with some AE questions
1) What is IKK?
2) The 10 Priority Awards are applicable how? I assume each way per person is an award used? Meaning 4 people return on Priority flights would be 8 rewards used, correct?
I've got 4 separate itineraries to book via AE for travel in Oct/Dec and want to be able to maximize my return and understanding.
1) What is IKK?
2) The 10 Priority Awards are applicable how? I assume each way per person is an award used? Meaning 4 people return on Priority flights would be 8 rewards used, correct?
I've got 4 separate itineraries to book via AE for travel in Oct/Dec and want to be able to maximize my return and understanding.
Ten awards/year: ech booking is one. Could be more than one person, round trip or one way.
Four separate itineraries=using four priority awards, assuming there is no non-priority ones.
Jul 16, 2017, 3:38 pm
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Jul 16, 2017, 4:57 pm
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Jul 16, 2017, 4:58 pm
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I mean.. if they said something along the lines of "We raised AQD so that we could keep or enhance the benefits"... if IKK redemption is worsening than it does seem quite disingenious. (I am not saying that is really whats happening right now, but more as a hypothetical)
Jul 16, 2017, 5:23 pm
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I booked before I've switched from "mostly" to "always" travel, collecting points like a crazy person, and before the divorce was announced.