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Stranger Nov 20, 2016 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by After Burner (Post 27506103)
How exactly would you specify province of departure for a flight pass?

OK, yes. I missed that you were specifically talking about flight passes.

DrunkCargo Nov 20, 2016 6:05 pm

I just want to highlight from a screenshot above that Altitude states the following:
For non-Canadian residents, the Altitude Qualifying Dollars (AQD) will be 50% lower than the published amounts found in the chart above. Proof of address may be requested in order to apply non-Canadian resident AQD requirements. For eligible members, the AQD tracker will be updated to reflect these new lowered requirements by March 1, 2016.
I think it has been established that there is no web form that allows the entry of "residency", address or country or otherwise. So might it be said that AC has not yet requested "Proof of address", which "may be requested", but merely inferred it on the basis of mailing address? And somehow, "Proof of address," if "requested" would establish "residency"?

Not sure this nuance between "resident" and "place I reside and thus legally receive mail" is fully captured by this bilingual agency... Funny thing is, this doesn't affect me personally at the moment, but it certainly took a lot of posts to get this far. =P Weekends are really idle minds time eh? Time for some Amrut!

Stranger Nov 20, 2016 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by DrunkCargo (Post 27506906)
I just want to highlight from a screenshot above that Altitude states the following:
For non-Canadian residents, the Altitude Qualifying Dollars (AQD) will be 50% lower than the published amounts found in the chart above. Proof of address may be requested in order to apply non-Canadian resident AQD requirements. For eligible members, the AQD tracker will be updated to reflect these new lowered requirements by March 1, 2016.
I think it has been established that there is no web form that allows the entry of "residency", address or country or otherwise. So might it be said that AC has not yet requested "Proof of address", which "may be requested", but merely inferred it on the basis of mailing address? And somehow, "Proof of address," if "requested" would establish "residency"?

Not sure this nuance between "resident" and "place I reside and thus legally receive mail" is fully captured by this bilingual agency... Funny thing is, this doesn't affect me personally at the moment, but it certainly took a lot of posts to get this far. =P Weekends are really idle minds time eh? Time for some Amrut!

You might want to read the last two pages? :D

karachi Nov 22, 2016 1:40 am

you know what would be nice and keep me flying beyond 100k on AC - if we could rollover some AQM or AQD into the next year like some hotel programs allow.

I'd be ok with say 20k - so if i do 130k miles, i can choose to have 20k rolled over.

DrunkCargo Nov 22, 2016 1:50 am


Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 27506910)
You might want to read the last two pages? :D

Yea, you're right... seems to be resolved with "splitting hairs"... but what I don't think is resolved is what AC even intends to be the policy, without taking cues from UIs.


Originally Posted by karachi (Post 27512398)
you know what would be nice and keep me flying beyond 100k on AC - if we could rollover some AQM or AQD into the next year like some hotel programs allow.

I'd be ok with say 20k - so if i do 130k miles, i can choose to have 20k rolled over.

Or even like other airlines, like DL? Increased liability, another loose thread... assuming the company is a viable going concern, of course...

Wpgjetse Nov 22, 2016 12:05 pm

I was reading on a UA thread, that UA does not give any FF benefits to pax flying on government travel, because of the governments discounts they receive(maybe someone can confirm this). Since AC gives Canadian governments large discounts, could this be a possible change next year?

ridefar Nov 22, 2016 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by Wpgjetse (Post 27514670)
I was reading on a UA thread, that UA does not give any FF benefits to pax flying on government travel, because of the governments discounts they receive(maybe someone can confirm this). Since AC gives Canadian governments large discounts, could this be a possible change next year?

LOL. Thats rich. If they took away the benefits, then what incentive would the government have for consistently favouring them (vs. unions, vs. Emirates, etc.)?

Although arguably all those whose opinion matters get VIP treatment, and don't need SE.

Wpgjetse Nov 22, 2016 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by ridefar (Post 27515731)
LOL. Thats rich. If they took away the benefits, then what incentive would the government have for consistently favouring them (vs. unions, vs. Emirates, etc.)?

The incentive is, the government save money. The employees has no choice on flying non approved airlines.

Sean Peever Nov 22, 2016 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by Wpgjetse (Post 27505966)
I'm not ignoring you. You are just splitting hairs. The screenshot is the rule requirement of Altitude.

While yes cow is talking very specifically about a rule, he's not wrong at all.

AC / Aeroplan / Altitude does not provide you anywhere to specify what your residency is - period. There is no where for me to tell them what my residency is.

Mailing address - this exists but this is not residency. In fact, I change my mailing address all the time - if I'm at my phoenix house for 4-5 months I'll change all my mailing addresses to go to my phoenix house while I am there (not just talking Aeroplan, but everything) so I don't miss things.

When I'm back in Vancouver I'll change my mailing address to be in Vancouver.

There is a very fundamental thing you are missing here which is mailing address != residency.

Jumper Jack Nov 22, 2016 7:00 pm

Is it normal given past years that they still haven't release complete package yet?
Almost December now

Wpgjetse Nov 22, 2016 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by Jumper Jack (Post 27516298)
Is it normal given past years that they still haven't release complete package yet?
Almost December now

The last few years, I received my package the first full week of Dec.

robsaw Nov 23, 2016 2:21 pm

That said, the "elites", specifically "Super Elites" are obviously the beneficiary (or at least retain past benefits) of AC's latest "enhancements" to the program as the value of 25K and 35K benefits is progressively de-enhanced. Not unexpected, given recent history. As my transcontinental flying is nearing an end due to job assignment changes, it could be my last hurrah after hitting the 50K mark this year. Although, that transcontinental flying could be replaced by fewer, but much longer intercontinental flights, I may still make it (I don't exactly look forward to 12 - 16 hr flights though).

yulred Nov 23, 2016 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by Wpgjetse (Post 27514670)
I was reading on a UA thread, that UA does not give any FF benefits to pax flying on government travel, because of the governments discounts they receive(maybe someone can confirm this). Since AC gives Canadian governments large discounts, could this be a possible change next year?

Ben S mentioned on another thread that the Government does not have a 'fly Canadian' policy. Canadian bureaucrats can fly any airline they want, so I doubt cutting FF miles for them would be a winning proposition for AC.

tcook052 Nov 23, 2016 2:37 pm

Folks, a number of posts have been deleted for wildly off topic commentary wholly unrelated to the thread topic. Instead of responding to another poster and taking the thread even further into the abyss members are reminded that as per FT Rules they shouldn't reply to off topic posts but rather flag them for moderator review as adding to the problem by further derailing a thread isn't helpful and subjects the poster to disciplinary steps. Also as per FT Rules members are reminded to stick to the thread topic and refrain from sharing off topic comments.

regards,

tcook052
AC forum moderator

yyznomad Nov 23, 2016 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by SparseFlyer (Post 27485064)
They should make the gift E50 only for SEs with $26,000 AQD and 150,000 AQM.

Agreed! ;)


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