Thanks for the fare bucket thread! I had to ask because I'm booked on a points fare in PY for YVR-YUL and Y in YYZ-YVR. The minimum bid for the former is $240 and $465 for the latter. Both i n the 789. If I'm understanding the EF search correctly, seems like the chances are higher in the YYZ-YVR flight as it is J9?

Apples and oranges. For one thing, demand isn't necessarily identical on both routes.

304 is now J6 C6 D5 Z0 P0 R1 and 125 is now J7 C4 D3 Z0 P0 R3, which suggests that both have sold paid-J seats without clearing any eUps since yesterday morning, but 125's moving faster.

You've certainly got a shot at either one, but neither is a slam dunk yet. Good luck!

I think you're inferring a lot with no evidence.

...which is why I said "suggests", but if they were still trying to sell ____-priced fares and had to kill seats for nonrev reasons, that would likely reduce the total J number but not necessarily the specific fare buckets.

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I don't think it suggests that at all.

If a flight that's J6C5D4Z3P2R1 sells one seat in any class, it's almost guaranteed to go to J5C4D3Z2P1R0.

And 20 hours later, it could be J4C0 or J6R6.

But other than knowing they're willing to sell one fewer seat, it absolutely does not suggest they sold any paid J.

Data point: Bid upgrade from Econ to Business accepted almost exactly at 48 hours prior to flight departure with 11 seats blocked on EF. Friends I’m travelling with used eUps and their upgrade came earlier than 48 hours - maybe 56 hours.

Prior to their eUP AC showed 13 empty seats in Business. Then after they upgraded EF showed 11 blocked seats, AC showed no available in business. Then our upgrade came and now there are 8 seats blocked on EF.

Aside from EF's sexy seatmaps... what were the actual JCDZPR loads showing when you looked at the seatmaps?

When I had someone check this is what they told me (also posted above):

J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 R0 O6 E6 N3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 A0 K0 G0 F0

FWIW, there are still 7 seats open in business as of right now. So I’m not entirely sure how accurate EF is TBH. Maybe they’ll go to last minute upgrades?

The seatmaps only tell which seats have been assigned/selected, and quite often, they do not correlate well with what's actually been sold.

Yeah, with that data, I'd say there's a 99% chance there are 4 seats available, and a 0.000000000% chance there are 7.

Right now, the true loads are J3 O5 Y23.

With T-7 days until my departure, I went on the bid upgrade website again and noticed there's an option now to instantly upgrade my YYZ-YVR (789) flight for $680/pax. Is there any meaning behind this? Apologies if this has been answered before but I haven't used this program before.

I've asked this very question before. It's an upfare - basically buying the J fare through paying the difference from your existing fare and you get all that comes with the newly purchased fare (eg. lounge and priority if you don't already have it from another source).

How early and how high do I have to bid to get a decent chance of an upgrade from PE to J in a long haul sector?

I received the AC's bid upgrade notification a week prior to my MR flights to/from Honolulu. AC590 HNL - YYZ - Fare class booked: Comfort, PE upgrade Buy it now costs $500 and range for this upgrade is from $310 - $660. The J class upgrade Buy it Now costs $1,050 and the range for this upgrade is from $560 to $1,165.

Bid or wait until check in
 

Flying on AC854 to LHR on march 30. Flight does not look very booked up yet. Currently booked in premium econ and have submitted a bid for business class at $870 which is just above minimum. There looks to be 14 business class seats available with 6 “blocked” while premium econ is mostly full. Is $870 reasonable or too much? Is there a chance i can upgrade for less at check-in? Thank you.