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Old Jun 22, 2015, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by beep88
I did that once. FA tracked me down in Y - quite impressive as it's a rather full NRT-YYZ flight. Escorted me back to J.
So was it a nice escort?
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 1:43 pm
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asked nicely last year for my 25 year old son to switch for an hour but SD declined. I do understand but part of me says hey I am paying the ticket...definitely against any merrygorounding...
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr2011
I'm on a flight YVR-LHR return in July. I've booked J paid, and my wife and 2 kids on the same flight in economy AE. I'd like to give my wife time up front so will try to switch during the flight. Has anyone done this before? Any reasons why they won't allow us? I would let the FA know when I board.
As others have stated above, its probably best have one parent fly J on the outbound and the pother parent on the return rather than switch midflight. As stated in the quote mentioned below, the biggest problem with switching seats is the new person now consumes a second portion of food and beverage.

The second issue that midflight seat swap creates is disruption to the other J pax, particularly with outbound as the service standard is meal and then the cabin goes into sleep mode. The return portion has less of a disruption as more pax are awake for the whole flight.


Originally Posted by yyzgigi
Have done before as one switch only. Don't try to double up on services. Don't switch and then immediately ask for a glass of champagne; switch quietly after the meal service and then go to sleep; of course at the discretion of the SD.
Agree 100% with the above post. If you have to go down the seat swap path, switch only once and get the incharge FA agreement well in advance. Another suggestion is to time the seat swap after meal service as the cabin gets into sleep mode.

My own suggestion would be to strike a deal that is mutually acceptable. Something like person in J handles all the airport ground arrangements while the person in Y handles all the arrangements with kids during flight.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr2011
I'm on a flight YVR-LHR return in July. I've booked J paid, and my wife and 2 kids on the same flight in economy AE. I'd like to give my wife time up front so will try to swich during the flight.
Immanuel Kant has the answer for you:

Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.
What you are proposing, therefore, is that all 42 J passengers make arrangements at the beginning of the flight to switch places with some random Y passenger at some random point in the flight.

If it's a good idea for you, surely it's a good idea for all.

If it's not a good idea for all to switch, then perhaps it isn't a good idea for anyone to switch.

Has anyone done this before?
Surely some have, but countless millions more have survived flights in Y just fine.

Any reasons why they won't allow us?
Most FAs reject Schopenhauer's criticisms of Kant's conclusions.

Switching is disruptive not only to the other J pax (aka the World's Most Important People) but also the FAs and also the Y pax who may not be interested in overhearing the transfer of authority to and from the parents of the children involved.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 2:44 pm
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If your employer is paying for you to ride up front so that you can arrive in good form to go to work, then you should sit up front on the way over and let your wife sit up front on the way back. Swapping mid-flight, particularly overnight, is disruptive to all.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by WR Cage
The second issue that midflight seat swap creates is disruption to the other J pax, particularly with outbound as the service standard is meal and then the cabin goes into sleep mode. The return portion has less of a disruption as more pax are awake for the whole flight.
Agreed - this can be a major frustration IMO. I was on an overseas flight and was asleep after the dinner service when I was woken up by the passenger in the next pod giving his teenage son (sitting in Y) a loud lecture on how the pod worked, while standing over my pod. Dad eventually went back to Y, but then returned back to J a few hours later to swap back into the J seat before the pre-arrival meal. These types of switches can be very disruptive to other J passengers who are trying to get some rest.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 3:49 pm
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Switching seats in the middle of a flight across different cabins should not be allowed.
And I hope it indeed isn't and AC enforces it.
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Old Jun 22, 2015, 3:58 pm
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Once had a father swap with wife and crying baby into a neighbouring J pod. Suffice to say, I was pissed.
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by agjil
Switching seats in the middle of a flight across different cabins should not be allowed.
And I hope it indeed isn't and AC enforces it.
Even if I have seats in both cabins?
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by Bonaventure
Once had a father swap with wife and crying baby into a neighbouring J pod. Suffice to say, I was pissed.
Should have asked FA to move them back.
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by Bonaventure
Once had a father swap with wife and crying baby into a neighbouring J pod. Suffice to say, I was pissed.
Exactly. The few times we were split across cabins, the rule is J visits Y or F visits J. As I would expect if I were in the higher cabin.

No reason to do otherwise.

I have seen swaps, I'm fine with it, no talking, no eating, that's OK. Same rules apply to two people as to one.
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by jlisi984
Exactly. The few times we were split across cabins, the rule is J visits Y or F visits J. As I would expect if I were in the higher cabin.

No reason to do otherwise.

I have seen swaps, I'm fine with it, no talking, no eating, that's OK. Same rules apply to two people as to one.
Well if I'm in Y and I deserve to be in J, then I'll visit the higher cabin. And use those lavatories. And take those snacks. Etc.
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Well if I'm in Y and I deserve to be in J, then I'll visit the higher cabin. And use those lavatories. And take those snacks. Etc.
Why would you be in Y and deserve to be in J? Why not just be in J?
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by sweeper20
Why would you be in Y and deserve to be in J? Why not just be in J?
Entitlement. Major problem in the FF world.
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Old Jun 23, 2015, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by gcashin
Agreed - this can be a major frustration IMO. I was on an overseas flight and was asleep after the dinner service when I was woken up by the passenger in the next pod giving his teenage son (sitting in Y) a loud lecture on how the pod worked, while standing over my pod. Dad eventually went back to Y, but then returned back to J a few hours later to swap back into the J seat before the pre-arrival meal. These types of switches can be very disruptive to other J passengers who are trying to get some rest.
Originally Posted by Bonaventure
Once had a father swap with wife and crying baby into a neighbouring J pod. Suffice to say, I was pissed.
Of course the baby and wife could have been in the flight from the start, but both these examples are illustrative that swaps should not be allowed, and devalue the J cabin for all the customers sitting in it (regardless of how they got there). I appreciate SDs who don't allow this. Does AC have an official policy on this?
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