Switching seats during a flight
Jul 5, 2015, 5:40 pm
#61
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Your point is well taken and I can't disagree. A benefit provided to an employee for a business purpose shouldn't be appropriated for the benefit of the employee's family instead. I think where we diverge is your characterization of it as stealing. It's unacceptable and depending on the exact situation could be grounds for dismissal, but it's not a criminal matter. Mostly semantics I know, but this is probably where most people felt your language was a little strong.
I did qualify my final reply by stating that the poster ought to clear it with their employer.
Nov 9, 2015, 7:08 pm
#62
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Forgot about this post, just came across it and I thought I would chime in.
On the flight home, I asked the SD about switching. He told me "No problem" but please do it after the first service. We did so and the crew were very nice to my wife after we switched.
Now, I can't believe the discussion here about stealing. Certainly there are habits that could constitute bad behaviour but each situation is different. BTW it was discussed with my boss (CEO) and there was no concern. I was not seeking approval.
Secondly, if people feel that this is stealing, then do you feel that accumulating FF points and using them for personal travel is stealing? Should you not use them (earned from business flights) to book company trips saving the company money? Would you fire someone if they did this? If they bought a toaster with AP points, they essentially bought the toaster with company funds. Fire them? Do you give your lounge passes to staff that do not qualify (I actually do)?
The rare perk of having a spouse fly one leg should not be an issue with a company that looks at the big picture and understands what makes their employees happy. They know that my wife has to take care of the kids on her own several (several) times a year because I have to travel. They know the family eats dinner without me at times because I have work events to go to in the evenings. We're all adults, we trust each other to do the right thing.
On the flight home, I asked the SD about switching. He told me "No problem" but please do it after the first service. We did so and the crew were very nice to my wife after we switched.
Now, I can't believe the discussion here about stealing. Certainly there are habits that could constitute bad behaviour but each situation is different. BTW it was discussed with my boss (CEO) and there was no concern. I was not seeking approval.
Secondly, if people feel that this is stealing, then do you feel that accumulating FF points and using them for personal travel is stealing? Should you not use them (earned from business flights) to book company trips saving the company money? Would you fire someone if they did this? If they bought a toaster with AP points, they essentially bought the toaster with company funds. Fire them? Do you give your lounge passes to staff that do not qualify (I actually do)?
The rare perk of having a spouse fly one leg should not be an issue with a company that looks at the big picture and understands what makes their employees happy. They know that my wife has to take care of the kids on her own several (several) times a year because I have to travel. They know the family eats dinner without me at times because I have work events to go to in the evenings. We're all adults, we trust each other to do the right thing.
Nov 9, 2015, 7:36 pm
#63
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Missed this one. Consideration? Seriously? Is that what you think is needed to get lucky? How about just being considerate. Sad.
Nov 10, 2015, 6:08 am
#64
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Forgot about this post, just came across it and I thought I would chime in.
On the flight home, I asked the SD about switching. He told me "No problem" but please do it after the first service. We did so and the crew were very nice to my wife after we switched.
Now, I can't believe the discussion here about stealing. Certainly there are habits that could constitute bad behaviour but each situation is different. BTW it was discussed with my boss (CEO) and there was no concern. I was not seeking approval.
Secondly, if people feel that this is stealing, then do you feel that accumulating FF points and using them for personal travel is stealing? Should you not use them (earned from business flights) to book company trips saving the company money? Would you fire someone if they did this? If they bought a toaster with AP points, they essentially bought the toaster with company funds. Fire them? Do you give your lounge passes to staff that do not qualify (I actually do)?
The rare perk of having a spouse fly one leg should not be an issue with a company that looks at the big picture and understands what makes their employees happy. They know that my wife has to take care of the kids on her own several (several) times a year because I have to travel. They know the family eats dinner without me at times because I have work events to go to in the evenings. We're all adults, we trust each other to do the right thing.
On the flight home, I asked the SD about switching. He told me "No problem" but please do it after the first service. We did so and the crew were very nice to my wife after we switched.
Now, I can't believe the discussion here about stealing. Certainly there are habits that could constitute bad behaviour but each situation is different. BTW it was discussed with my boss (CEO) and there was no concern. I was not seeking approval.
Secondly, if people feel that this is stealing, then do you feel that accumulating FF points and using them for personal travel is stealing? Should you not use them (earned from business flights) to book company trips saving the company money? Would you fire someone if they did this? If they bought a toaster with AP points, they essentially bought the toaster with company funds. Fire them? Do you give your lounge passes to staff that do not qualify (I actually do)?
The rare perk of having a spouse fly one leg should not be an issue with a company that looks at the big picture and understands what makes their employees happy. They know that my wife has to take care of the kids on her own several (several) times a year because I have to travel. They know the family eats dinner without me at times because I have work events to go to in the evenings. We're all adults, we trust each other to do the right thing.
Nov 10, 2015, 6:10 am
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I don't think so. But lots of posters on FT mention they would be in the dog house if they didn't offer to give up the J seat for their better half. So don't look at me. I don't give my J seat to my wife. She usually has her own and if not she is small enough to fit in a Y seat. I am not. (Tall not fat)
Nov 10, 2015, 10:05 am
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I don't think so. But lots of posters on FT mention they would be in the dog house if they didn't offer to give up the J seat for their better half. So don't look at me. I don't give my J seat to my wife. She usually has her own and if not she is small enough to fit in a Y seat. I am not. (Tall not fat)
