Aeroplan Eliminating MPM5 as of Oct 29?
Oct 29, 2014, 12:37 pm
#61
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Posts: 369
Is calling in the answer
Not sure if calling in is the answer
My two previous trips were
1)
YYZ-ORD-IST-ICN-CEB
Open Jaw CEB-SIN
SIN-HKG
HGK-BKK-IST-JKF-YYZ
2)
YYZ-TPE-ICN-CEB
Open Jaw CEB-MNL
MNL-BKK
BKK-KUL-IST-YYZ
Both times I had to call in to have tickets confirmed- could not do it online.
Now on the multi-city online page I can’t fine any combination that doesn’t give me the MPM error. For the following basic route
YYZ-MNL
MNL-BKK
MNL-YYZ
I the YYZ-MNL route only shows via the Pacific. The MNL-YYZ route shows both Pacific and Atlantic routes. I can’t find a combination of anything that works. I hope when I call in I will be able to get an agent that work out something for me.
My two previous trips were
1)
YYZ-ORD-IST-ICN-CEB
Open Jaw CEB-SIN
SIN-HKG
HGK-BKK-IST-JKF-YYZ
2)
YYZ-TPE-ICN-CEB
Open Jaw CEB-MNL
MNL-BKK
BKK-KUL-IST-YYZ
Both times I had to call in to have tickets confirmed- could not do it online.
Now on the multi-city online page I can’t fine any combination that doesn’t give me the MPM error. For the following basic route
YYZ-MNL
MNL-BKK
MNL-YYZ
I the YYZ-MNL route only shows via the Pacific. The MNL-YYZ route shows both Pacific and Atlantic routes. I can’t find a combination of anything that works. I hope when I call in I will be able to get an agent that work out something for me.
Oct 29, 2014, 1:21 pm
#63
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Looks like all the roundabout routes have been axed. FRA-ICN-YYZ-FRA doesn't work, even though it worked last night. FRA-LAX-NRT-FRA also doesn't work. Pity, those were fun... Any idea on the official rules? MPM flat, MPM+x? Elites should have gotten an email with "news" about the update as per a rude AP agent?
Oct 29, 2014, 1:25 pm
#64
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Meanwhile FRA-IST-CAI-YYZ coming in at 7669mi is proudly displayed by the AP engine. Only MPM+60 on that one. ... AP, at least be consistent you idiots.
EDIT: I lie, AP displays it proudly but errors out when you go to book. Seriously, get your .... together AP, try showing valid routes in you search engine at least?! ******* incompetent *****
EDIT: I lie, AP displays it proudly but errors out when you go to book. Seriously, get your .... together AP, try showing valid routes in you search engine at least?! ******* incompetent *****
Oct 29, 2014, 1:38 pm
#65
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Also reading through the TC's, is this something new:
Subject to earlier termination or amendment of the Aeroplan Program, you can accumulate Aeroplan Miles until December 31, 2014, and request reward travel until March 31, 2015. Reward travel must be completed by December 14, 2015.
Oct 29, 2014, 1:41 pm
#66
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,465
Oct 29, 2014, 2:03 pm
#67
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Ok, just got of the phone with AP, Europe-NA over Asia/TPAC is dead, and MPM EU-Asia1/2 doesn't seem to have improved. From what the agent told me, the MPM on FRA-NRT that the computer allows is 9662. The published MPM is 9320. From that, looks like the new system is using MPM3.6 instead of the old MPM5. If anyone else has heard any quoted MPMs from agents, it would be great if they could post those here, and we can try and figure out the new rules.
Oct 29, 2014, 3:20 pm
#68
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,609
I can confirm with both an E50k and a P25K in the household, no email was sent specific to this issue (unless it was buried in a link somewhere in the Altitude Report)
Oct 29, 2014, 3:44 pm
#69
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
Thank goodness I did not rely on yesterday's agent before getting my trip booked. The agent was really pleasant and I do not think was trying to pull wool over my eyes.
East Coast-Europe-Asia is a perfectly rational routing and to eliminate it is absurd, it is published by every European carrier.
East Coast-Europe-Asia is a perfectly rational routing and to eliminate it is absurd, it is published by every European carrier.
Oct 29, 2014, 4:12 pm
#70
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
and Multi-City fails big time now
I can't do YYZ-CDG, CDG-TPE, TPE-YYZ (I tested this) <- says Market fare doesn't fly to TPE (WTH), whether I choose Y or J. Replace TPE with PVG then it works
or YYZ-IST-ICN-TPE, TPE-YYZ (I booked this ONLINE in March 2014) <- same error
so basically anytime I input Taipei (TPE), in Multi-City, I'd get this error
YYZ-TPE RT search works okay
I can't do YYZ-CDG, CDG-TPE, TPE-YYZ (I tested this) <- says Market fare doesn't fly to TPE (WTH), whether I choose Y or J. Replace TPE with PVG then it works
or YYZ-IST-ICN-TPE, TPE-YYZ (I booked this ONLINE in March 2014) <- same error
so basically anytime I input Taipei (TPE), in Multi-City, I'd get this error
ClassicFlight Reward
ClassicFlight Rewards are not valid for your requested itinerary. Rollover the icon for more details.
Market Fare Flight Reward
At least one flight segment is not operated by Air Canada for Market Fare Flight Rewards. Please see below:
ClassicFlight Rewards are not valid for your requested itinerary. Rollover the icon for more details.
Market Fare Flight Reward
At least one flight segment is not operated by Air Canada for Market Fare Flight Rewards. Please see below:
Oct 29, 2014, 4:15 pm
#71
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
Hopefully it's just a glitch or the usual IT problems, but even simple routings bring this up:
"Market Fare Flight Rewards are only offered on Air Canada operated flights. Air Canada does not operate flights between the requested cities. Please try a different search."
Examples include:
YYZ-PEK
PEK-MUC
MUC-YYZ
or
YYZ-HKG
HKG-FRA
FRA-YYZ
Don't have the time right now to plot the reverse the direction, but I hope AP isn't trying to tinker too much.
Additional: these quick searches were using the Classic rewards (ie, not the inflated required miles).
"Market Fare Flight Rewards are only offered on Air Canada operated flights. Air Canada does not operate flights between the requested cities. Please try a different search."
Examples include:
YYZ-PEK
PEK-MUC
MUC-YYZ
or
YYZ-HKG
HKG-FRA
FRA-YYZ
Don't have the time right now to plot the reverse the direction, but I hope AP isn't trying to tinker too much.
Additional: these quick searches were using the Classic rewards (ie, not the inflated required miles).
Last edited by yqtyyz; Oct 29, 2014 at 4:16 pm Reason: Added "Classic" comment
Oct 29, 2014, 4:25 pm
#72
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,465
Rollover the icon for more details.
Where it says maximum permitted distance exceeded. So Aeroplan did not eliminate MPM at all. Quite the opposite, it seems it tightened it, but only in some situations. Can't figure it out completely.
Anyway, what is obvious at this point, is that complex mini-RTWs are over.
Oct 29, 2014, 4:28 pm
#73
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
Oct 29, 2014, 4:30 pm
#74
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
I did try to hover over the icon but perhaps my Bell hotspot connection was so slow such that the icon didn't pop up. I'll definitely give it another shot when I get home. 
Did you do this:
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Where it says maximum permitted distance exceeded. So Aeroplan did not eliminate MPM at all. Quite the opposite, it seems it tightened it, but only in some situations. Can't figure it out completely.
Anyway, what is obvious at this point, is that complex mini-RTWs are over.
Rollover the icon for more details.
Where it says maximum permitted distance exceeded. So Aeroplan did not eliminate MPM at all. Quite the opposite, it seems it tightened it, but only in some situations. Can't figure it out completely.
Anyway, what is obvious at this point, is that complex mini-RTWs are over.
