Aeroplan Eliminating MPM5 as of Oct 29?
Oct 27, 2014, 1:50 pm
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: YOW
Programs: AC Irrelevant, IHG Platinum, Marriot Gold, Hertz Gold, Avis First
Posts: 273
I'm hoping the IT monkeys will royally screw up this new computer "upgrade" and cause another 'business-class-for-economy-class-miles' glitch like in 2011.
#wishfulthinking
#wishfulthinking
Oct 27, 2014, 3:09 pm
#17
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: either in Salishaan, or at an isolated colliery in the Canadian northland
Programs: AC P75: previously, quintuple secret pterodactyl wings, every year
Posts: 203
Heh. Now my raven sense is tingling, that other changes might be in the wind for Aeroplan redemptions.
I suspect that I had best book my planned long-haul vacation right... NOW.
/mevs
I suspect that I had best book my planned long-haul vacation right... NOW.
/mevs
Oct 27, 2014, 3:36 pm
#18
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: YOW
Programs: AC E75K *G
Posts: 7,108
Allow me to rant a little guys:
Are (you) people so stupid: "Oh great, AC/AP just announced some improvements to the program, I'm sure that will benefit us flyers, they must want to further reward our loyalty, as they love us so much." WRONG. How can one be so gullible? Oh, AP is "improving" their routing rules to allow computers to validate bookings? We sure don't want to over tax the poor call center agents. Those poor souls, having to check a table to make sure BKK-FRA isn't a Europe short haul reward, Bangkok sure does sound like the capital of Belgium right? Yeah, better have a computer do that, will benefit us all! WRONG. While we're at it, lets make the chart simpler, one mile=0.01$, much simpler for everyone to understand. That way ma and pa kettle can book their YXU-YYZ tix without having to fret about how many miles they'll need. Oh and you want to book FRA-BKK-NRT in F? Oh, that's about $15k so a smooth 1.5Mil miles, no biggie. Much easier for everyone am I right? You can even pick any day to travel, O is wide open! I wonder why?
If I hear any more crap from people spouting off how these changes will be great, or how we'd be better of with a WestJet style system, I'm going to loose it. No frikin news is great news. Anything else is BS that will cost us dearly. Mise well blow my miles before the 29th...
http://youtu.be/eLxphQsolAA
Are (you) people so stupid: "Oh great, AC/AP just announced some improvements to the program, I'm sure that will benefit us flyers, they must want to further reward our loyalty, as they love us so much." WRONG. How can one be so gullible? Oh, AP is "improving" their routing rules to allow computers to validate bookings? We sure don't want to over tax the poor call center agents. Those poor souls, having to check a table to make sure BKK-FRA isn't a Europe short haul reward, Bangkok sure does sound like the capital of Belgium right? Yeah, better have a computer do that, will benefit us all! WRONG. While we're at it, lets make the chart simpler, one mile=0.01$, much simpler for everyone to understand. That way ma and pa kettle can book their YXU-YYZ tix without having to fret about how many miles they'll need. Oh and you want to book FRA-BKK-NRT in F? Oh, that's about $15k so a smooth 1.5Mil miles, no biggie. Much easier for everyone am I right? You can even pick any day to travel, O is wide open! I wonder why?
If I hear any more crap from people spouting off how these changes will be great, or how we'd be better of with a WestJet style system, I'm going to loose it. No frikin news is great news. Anything else is BS that will cost us dearly. Mise well blow my miles before the 29th...
http://youtu.be/eLxphQsolAA
Oct 27, 2014, 5:18 pm
#20
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,153
Not so sure. Years ago stops in Europe on the way to Asia were not permitted. After non stop polar routes (ewr sin, yyz hkg, Jfk BKK), they were allowed. I don't know that this new tool has anything to do with routing via Europe or not.
Oct 27, 2014, 7:21 pm
#23
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE100K, SPG Platinum, Cathay Pacific Gold, club carlson Gold, Le club Accor Platinum
Posts: 186
Unfortunately, from my source, it won't be online and you still need to call in to book 2stopover+ 1 open jaw/ destination.
Oct 27, 2014, 7:37 pm
#24
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
Can someone provide an example of a routing that would be impacted by losing the MPM5 option? I did a mini-RTW 3.5 years ago that was quite complex, but I'm not certain if it would require manual ticketing or not. Planning on booking another within the next year to liquidate points and a little worried, but don't have a good frame of reference for what this means yet.
YYZ-CAI-KUL (stop)-BKK-AKL (stop)-SYD (POT)-SFO-YVR-YYZ was sent to manual ticketing (8 segments)
Just my experience.
In both cases though, they were validated against MPM.
Oct 27, 2014, 8:11 pm
#25
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
I am afraid
No AC/AE news ever come out good, in the general sense
I booked my Mini-RTW on Oct 1st and the agent mentioned undergoing new training etc...
but I thought most things were already computer ticketed (mine kinda was, I think)
Anyway, Oct 29th is a weird date to roll out
and I can only hope it actually improves online availability also? (doubtful) like fixing the SN availabillity
No AC/AE news ever come out good, in the general sense
I booked my Mini-RTW on Oct 1st and the agent mentioned undergoing new training etc...
but I thought most things were already computer ticketed (mine kinda was, I think)
Anyway, Oct 29th is a weird date to roll out
and I can only hope it actually improves online availability also? (doubtful) like fixing the SN availabillity
Oct 27, 2014, 8:34 pm
#26
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,187
Oct 28, 2014, 9:23 am
#28
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Any idea where the changes will be announced? Will there be a true announcement describing changes or will it be silent, and we'll have to figure out what works and what doesn't by experience?
Oct 28, 2014, 10:07 am
#29
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Heck, without lucky's blog, I wouldn't even know such change is coming
In that regard, AC's Altitude 2015 BAD news is at least announced
Oct 28, 2014, 11:34 am
#30
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
I booked a ticket this morning, was MPM10 so refused, excellent agent, he told me to call tomorrow as rules were being relaxed and should be possible from his training and understanding. He said no award levels etc were being tampered with.
I was a fraction skeptical and amended my routing to MPM5 and ticketed but it may not be disaster at first sight. I does however make me queasy whenever I see Aeroplan link to 2014 Reward Chart as if implicit that this will be subject to change year on year.
I was a fraction skeptical and amended my routing to MPM5 and ticketed but it may not be disaster at first sight. I does however make me queasy whenever I see Aeroplan link to 2014 Reward Chart as if implicit that this will be subject to change year on year.