WEIGH IN: Leaving AC, Staying or ALREADY LEFT?
Nov 4, 2014, 2:55 am
#271
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Same day is free when flying AC metal on a UA ticket as well. Just bring the printout of the ticket terms and highlight the fare rule.
Nov 4, 2014, 3:06 am
#272
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Don't those free changes devalue the product?
Don't those free changes devalue the product?
Nov 4, 2014, 3:15 am
#273
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Not having passengers sit at the MLL lounge eating and drinking prevents AC from obtaining large volume discounts on chickpea purée and Campbell chowder.
Yes. LH and AC inflexible same day change rules indeed make travel a more refined and uncheaoened experience indeed.
Nov 4, 2014, 3:19 am
#274
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz/ord
Programs: AC E50 UA1k 2MM AA EXP Royal Ambassador SPG Platinum
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I was top tier in both UA and AC in 2012 and 2013. This is my first year without SE status.
Missed my first EWR-HNL upgrade today, an 11 hr flight.
(5th or 6th trip to HNL in the last 2 yrs.)
But I knew I was going to miss it because I COULD SEE THE UPGRADE LIST (something AC doesn't think its frequent fliers could handle)!!! So I planned accordingly. Brought snacks, brought my drink vouchers, settled into my bulkhead seat with the getto upgrade (as rankourabu likes to say) using my carry on as an ottoman, and I survived.
Thankfully I'm already upgraded for the return since it's a red eye (love the flat beds on this route).
Missed my first EWR-HNL upgrade today, an 11 hr flight.
(5th or 6th trip to HNL in the last 2 yrs.)But I knew I was going to miss it because I COULD SEE THE UPGRADE LIST (something AC doesn't think its frequent fliers could handle)!!! So I planned accordingly. Brought snacks, brought my drink vouchers, settled into my bulkhead seat with the getto upgrade (as rankourabu likes to say) using my carry on as an ottoman, and I survived.
Thankfully I'm already upgraded for the return since it's a red eye (love the flat beds on this route).
Nov 4, 2014, 5:56 am
#275
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC 50k 1MM, Marriott LT Titanium Elite
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Not that I don't agree with you, but you can still get to Hawaii from YYC on a mainline plane. The day that ends will likely be the last time I go to Hawaii on a Canadian carrier.
Nov 4, 2014, 6:56 am
#276
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Location: Canada
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But I knew I was going to miss it because I COULD SEE THE UPGRADE LIST (something AC doesn't think its frequent fliers could handle)!!! So I planned accordingly. Brought snacks, brought my drink vouchers, settled into my bulkhead seat with the getto upgrade (as rankourabu likes to say) using my carry on as an ottoman, and I survived.
Thankfully I'm already upgraded for the return since it's a red eye (love the flat beds on this route).
Thankfully I'm already upgraded for the return since it's a red eye (love the flat beds on this route).
How do AC people put up with not knowing any of this? DL has all the info on the app too like UA.
Important to mention, that you also didnt have to pay double (flex) in order to just waitlist for the upgrade. Imagine you paid double for flex, and then it did not clear, how would you feel?
Nov 4, 2014, 7:15 am
#277
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And before Rankourabu comes back with a retort, yes, AA also puts its older 757s on its Hawaii routes, though does offer some very comfortable internationally configured 767s on the route too with comp upgrades to ExecPlats, instruments for other elites.
Last edited by Shareholder; Nov 4, 2014 at 7:38 am
Nov 4, 2014, 7:41 am
#278
Join Date: May 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC Altitude 35K, AA, Marriott Silver Elite, NEXUS
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Just booked Maui next Summer...flying UA F. All my leisure trips now on UA up front. Sure not the same as AC but darn close. So I am staying but AC has lost 30% or so of my flights...and I WILL NOT FLY ROGE.
Nov 4, 2014, 8:41 am
#279
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To both your points:
1. According to the map that came with the Hawaii Bonus Offer in the Recent email newsletter, YYC-OGG and YVR-KOA are mainline (dates of seasonal service vary)
2. I did YYZ-YVR-HNL last week just because but also to fly mainline. I will not fly rouge again (once was enough). 5 hours from YVR is one thing for those who can "manage" the rouge, 10 hours from YYZ is well, you fill in the blank.
3. Looking at our return visit to Hawaii, we've starting mapping out route choices with UA. There are many along with really good J/F prices. IMHO.
Nov 4, 2014, 8:51 am
#280
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Nov 4, 2014, 9:03 am
#281
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LHR - London
Programs: TK Elite *A Gold, Air Berlin Gold - One World Sapphire, Westjet Gold, Avis Preferred, IHG Gold
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LEAVING
Heading to Turkish Airlines M&S with the hope of a status match for *A Gold. Once that has expired will most likely go BA. Actually accrued one TATL flight with my Aegean account just before that program was gutted to the core. Will have a few more TATL flights accruing on TK M&S before i put my request in.
BYE BYE AC Altitude!
Heading to Turkish Airlines M&S with the hope of a status match for *A Gold. Once that has expired will most likely go BA. Actually accrued one TATL flight with my Aegean account just before that program was gutted to the core. Will have a few more TATL flights accruing on TK M&S before i put my request in.
BYE BYE AC Altitude!
Nov 4, 2014, 9:08 am
#282
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United now has 9 converted 777s in so-called Hawaii configuration, which have 32 old style intl J business class seats with IFE.
They fly on some flights to HNL from LAX, IAH and SFO as well as the ORD route.
Its certainly not the same domestic J/F that AA and AC run to Hawaii
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni..._777-200_8.php
Nov 4, 2014, 9:18 am
#283
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Nov 4, 2014, 10:51 am
#284
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE; SPG Platnium; HH G
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Who has not experienced the utter "joy" of being on the last flight of the day that has a mechanical issue and you get the crummy meal and hotel and leave the next day.
In the case of not letting someone get out when they can is having them stranded and the airline responsible - it just does not business sense.
Again if i flew 3-4x a year okay i might be ticked and mad but doesn't hurt too much if i switch.
But when i fly 25x round trips a year and you won't let me fly standby and i risk getting stranded or missing a connection - then taking my business to Westjet or UA will start to hurt.
Nov 4, 2014, 10:54 am
#285
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE; SPG Platnium; HH G
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and yes isn't it lovely that UA displays on the screen and in its app how many seats, what seats are available, how many are on standby - and where you are, how many are waiting for upgrade - and where you are.
Really helps to decide to make that run through O'hare or not.
Really helps to decide to make that run through O'hare or not.