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Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto Vancouver Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver London Heathrow: AC854/855

Code:
 
 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Nov 26, 2015, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Clipper801
Any one know where is fin 731 today and tomorrow?
Fin 731 is registration C-FITL (ref: http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/fin.html)

Then plug C-FITL into Flightaware (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFITL) and you'll see that Fin 731 will be landing in YYZ shortly, coming in from FRA.

In general it's not easy to tell where she's going to next. In this case, FlightAware is also listing the next few flights ... YUL, CDG, YUL, CDG
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Old Nov 26, 2015, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
You're assuming the space allocated to the economy class cabin is the same, which it seems is not the case. Everything posted here so far indicates the density of seating in the Y cabin is identical between the refurb 77W and the 77P.
The space allocated to the Y cabin in the refurb 77W and 77P is most definitely not the same. A quick glance at the cabin layouts is enough to see this.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/77W.html

The 77P pre-refurb is layout 2, with 5 rows of Y seats ahead of the wing. The 77P post-refurb is layout 4, same deal. The 77W post-refurb is layout 3, with no Y seats ahead of the wings.
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Old Nov 26, 2015, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by canopus27
Fin 731 is registration C-FITL (ref: http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/fin.html)

Then plug C-FITL into Flightaware (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFITL) and you'll see that Fin 731 will be landing in YYZ shortly, coming in from FRA.

In general it's not easy to tell where she's going to next. In this case, FlightAware is also listing the next few flights ... YUL, CDG, YUL, CDG
Okay. Thanks!
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Old Nov 29, 2015, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Clipper801
Any one know where is fin 731 today and tomorrow?
While I'm glad that YUL is getting the refurb bird so frequently.... Please bring it back to a YYZ-LHR soon!!!!
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Old Nov 29, 2015, 10:11 pm
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733 went to GSO this past Monday, Nov 23.

So, 731 is done. 742 (in Oct 23 GSO), 702 (in Nov 7 HKG), and 733 (in Nov 23 GSO) are all underway.
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Old Nov 30, 2015, 4:22 pm
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Is there an updated listing/is anyone keeping track of which B777 fins are updated to the new configuration and back in service as per YEGTigger's post about 731 above? It's not in the Wiki. Could we keep a current listing in the Wiki? Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere and I could not find it.
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Old Dec 1, 2015, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by sp4294
Is there an updated listing/is anyone keeping track of which B777 fins are updated to the new configuration and back in service as per YEGTigger's post about 731 above? It's not in the Wiki. Could we keep a current listing in the Wiki? Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere and I could not find it.
hoping for one too
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Old Dec 1, 2015, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kovsky
hoping for one too
Well, I'll start it and keep track as best I can. If people hear stuff, please share.
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Old Dec 2, 2015, 7:30 am
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that's very kind, thanks!
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Old Dec 6, 2015, 7:18 am
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Any ideas what will happen to all the seats and equipment they are ripping out of the fleet?

Is there a used market for this? Maybe auction the pods to SE100K members (and the Y seats to E75K and below) ?
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by YEGTigger
Well, I'll start it and keep track as best I can. If people hear stuff, please share.
C-FIVW is back in service as of dec 3
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 10:05 am
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I know it's not a refurb but good news.... 703 (C-FIUJ) is back in service after getting a love tap from a de-icing truck in YVR
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by kovsky
C-FIVW is back in service as of dec 3
Okay, so no conversion for it. I've taken the note off the wiki.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 4:39 pm
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Any idea of when will the entire fleet be finished? Looking as far out as possible (late NOV 2016), I noticed that some 777 destinations offer PE (SYD), while others (EZE) still do not. When will it be safe to purchase a PE seat and not end up in the back of the bus? I guess SYD is safe because of the relatively low number of 77Ls - what about the 77W routes?
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
Any idea of when will the entire fleet be finished? Looking as far out as possible (late NOV 2016), I noticed that some 777 destinations offer PE (SYD), while others (EZE) still do not. When will it be safe to purchase a PE seat and not end up in the back of the bus? I guess SYD is safe because of the relatively low number of 77Ls - what about the 77W routes?
I've seen them run 77W to SYD in the last year.
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