May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Feb 23, 2015, 6:21 pm
#4636
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 648
Agree with spillage....my apologies
Mar 2, 2015, 9:19 am
#4637
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC Aeroplan, BA blue
Posts: 138
Are the seats in Premium Rouge the new slim seats or the older style J seats with food rests? Considering this to Manchester in late July but also weary. Might to BA. Is the food the same as mainline domestic J?
Mar 2, 2015, 2:21 pm
#4638
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYZ
Programs: SEMM
Posts: 29
Rouge Premium? On my recent flight YYZ to PHX there were only a few spots so that was not my option. I have to say that the experience on Rouge was as bad as what was posted on this board (and I gave the feedback to AC). My armrest was so filthy with dried up tomato stains (could have been regurgitated) I had to take a picture of it.
The seat pitch (29") was something else. That is tighter than the backseat of my compact car! Of course while I am in the aisle, my large middle seat passenger could not keep his knees inside his footwell. His one leg was in his wife's footwell and his other leg was 1/2 way into mine. I should have taken a picture of it as no one would have believed me. The unfortunate part is that I will take my whole family on the same flight in 2 weeks. It is going to be miserable compared to the J class trip to SYD we took at Christmas. Live and learn!
The seat pitch (29") was something else. That is tighter than the backseat of my compact car! Of course while I am in the aisle, my large middle seat passenger could not keep his knees inside his footwell. His one leg was in his wife's footwell and his other leg was 1/2 way into mine. I should have taken a picture of it as no one would have believed me. The unfortunate part is that I will take my whole family on the same flight in 2 weeks. It is going to be miserable compared to the J class trip to SYD we took at Christmas. Live and learn!
Mar 2, 2015, 3:45 pm
#4639
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
Food is similar to Int'l J, as far as entrees are concerned. Very similar to mainline PY.
Mar 2, 2015, 5:47 pm
#4640
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,516
Do the 763s converted from mainline to rouge still have the mood lighting system?
Mar 2, 2015, 5:59 pm
#4641
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
But the mood lighting system involves replacing the normal fluorescent lighting with led strips... so they should still have it.
Mar 2, 2015, 6:48 pm
#4642
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,604
Any updates to timing on the 319 getting proper J seats? Spring, Summer, Fall?
Mar 2, 2015, 7:32 pm
#4643
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The World
Programs: WS Platinum, Marriott Titanium, DL Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 1,478
Any updates to timing on the 319 getting proper Y seats? Cold day in he11?
Mar 4, 2015, 11:31 am
#4644
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
WS just made official YYC-OGG/HNL and YEG-OGG with their 24/238 763s. Plus will be 4 rows of 2-2-2, just like Rouge.
I suppose YYC-OGG could go Rouge with decent utilization if they went something like 4xOGG 3xHNL per week. But I don't see how AC's current 211 seats vs WS's 262 will work. Rouge's 280, on the other hand...
I suppose YYC-OGG could go Rouge with decent utilization if they went something like 4xOGG 3xHNL per week. But I don't see how AC's current 211 seats vs WS's 262 will work. Rouge's 280, on the other hand...
Mar 4, 2015, 11:36 am
#4645
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
And before anyone screams about Rouge's pending inhumane A321s, Jetstars have 220 seats @ 29" pitch with just 3 washrooms. It can't be worse than that.
Mar 4, 2015, 11:40 am
#4646
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,604
Probably around the same time the Rouge A321s enter the fleet. I think expecting the 2-2 change to be official around May is reasonable, conversion summer/fall?
And before anyone screams about Rouge's pending inhumane A321s, Jetstars have 220 seats @ 29" pitch with just 3 washrooms. It can't be worse than that.
And before anyone screams about Rouge's pending inhumane A321s, Jetstars have 220 seats @ 29" pitch with just 3 washrooms. It can't be worse than that.
Mar 4, 2015, 11:45 am
#4647
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
I'm guessing they will follow AC mainline's 321 strategy and be equipped with the same # of J as the 319s. It is hard to believe Rouge would have a greater demand for J seats (>12) than mainline's 14J.
Mar 4, 2015, 12:04 pm
#4648
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 627
WestJet's 767s will have better seat pitch than Rouge's.
Economy 31"
Plus 38"
Exit Rows 39"
Economy 31"
Plus 38"
Exit Rows 39"
Mar 4, 2015, 12:18 pm
#4649
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
Is the seat map online? Curious to see their lavatory layout.
Mar 4, 2015, 12:58 pm
#4650
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Air Canada Aeroplan
Posts: 1,748
Pretty equal until you get stuck in a lower pitch seat. This is the same argument as Ben parroting that the converted 77Ws will not be as dense as the 77HD - yeah, right, because they will have proper J instead of the coffins. Y will be exactly as dense. What matters is the seat you are actually stuck in, not the notional "average seat" in the plane.