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Old May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
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Flights operated by Air Canada rouge

NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087

Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.

All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.

Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.

Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR

*Seasonal Summer Service

YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)

USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)

Mexico
CUN PVR SJD

Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)

Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW

Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY

YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA

Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)

Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP

Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE

Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)

Africa
CMN

YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)

USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)

YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)

Mexico
CUN PVR

Asia
KIX

Europe
DUB LGA KEF


What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by After Burner
I think you mean "neither is correct"
Originally Posted by canadiancow
There seems to be a fair bit of debate about that, but I believe in this case, you are correct.


Exciting news:

"Usage According to the rules of grammar, the pronoun neither is singular and requires a singular verb.

Neither is correct.

However, in informal writing and speech, a plural verb is common when neither is followed by of.

Neither of the answers is/are correct.

http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/neither


Back to our regularly scheduled rouge programming....
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
The slowest time of the year in Hawaii is the last week of Nov. to Dec 15 and the best time for deals(airfare/hotels/condos). Never need a res. for dinner. OK, maybe Sansei in Kapalua.
Yanksgiving is a great time for deals everywhere.

I'd book something if I weren't already SE.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
There seems to be a fair bit of debate about that, but I believe in this case, you are correct.
Couldn't resist. Sorry.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
The slowest time of the year in Hawaii is the last week of Nov. to Dec 15 and the best time for deals(airfare/hotels/condos). Never need a res. for dinner. OK, maybe Sansei in Kapalua.
Actually Hawaii's slowest month is September, then May, November, April.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
Post shows nothing more than your ignorance of the Canada>Beach/Vegas/Sun market.
I think your comment is mean spirited. Note the IMO at the beginning of his post.

Since AC seems determined to rogue Florida, I too will return to DL and fly first for less than rouge Y....and I first tried it thanks to a poster here
Connecting in ATL is a breeze and the DL lounges are excellent.

Or perhaps I will try WestJet Plus to SRQ. I flew it to MBJ and it was approximately 4 to 6 times better than rogue Y. And it cost less. About $600 less. And I really enjoyed the free drinks.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by LittleYHZ
They are up gauging from a daily 747 service to an A380, they are cancelling the 5 flights a week they operated on 777 aircraft in parallel with the 747. Its a net reduction of about 800 seats a week.
While I have not looked into it, I find that hard to believe.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bizorbetter
I think SRQ gets "un-rouged" in the off season because it can't support a 319....but thats just a guess
Actually SRQ was rouged for high season, I think 2013. Then it was un-rouged around end of 2014. And then AC announced year round mainline flights twice a week on the E90. I flew it a few times and it was great.

Alas, the bean counters are at it again and SRQ will become rogue once again.

The last rogue flight I was on from SRQ to YYZ, there were a few senior citizen passengers in the back coming up to the front and asking the in charge to let them off. They could not fit in the seats. He would not let them off.

My guess is an exec from AC had a place near SRQ and managed to get SRQ unrogued and year round. I guess he/she has been fired.......or bought a place in MIA.

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Old Jul 29, 2015, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
While I have not looked into it, I find that hard to believe.
Yeah thats what they did. BA removed them from the inventory today. They're going from 12 weekly flights (7 747, 5 777) in High Season to 7. (A380)

I have to say while Air Canada has always been aggressive towards competitors, they are particularly aggressive when they're in good financial shape/have a cost advantage on the competition.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 7:38 pm
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It would be nice if ACr would add a few extra rows of rouge Plus seats on their A319 and A321.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by peano
The last rogue flight I was on from SRQ to YYZ, there were a few senior citizen passengers in the back coming up to the front and asking the in charge to let them off. They could not fit in the seats. He would not let them off.
At cruising altitude?
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by After Burner
At cruising altitude?
They really have to watch that first step!
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Clipper801
It would be nice if ACr would add a few extra rows of rouge Plus seats on their A319 and A321.
100% agree
Instead of that, row 12 (formally 4) has been "enhanced"...
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Yul_voyager
100% agree
Instead of that, row 12 (formally 4) has been "enhanced"...
Wait, row 12 doesn't have any extra space?
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim
Wait, row 12 doesn't have any extra space?
Yes, row 12 still has extra space (35"). Since row 3 is now a business seat it created the problem that there is nowhere to hang your iPad. The tray table is in the armrest.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by djkyyc
Yes, row 12 still has extra space (35"). Since row 3 is now a business seat it created the problem that there is nowhere to hang your iPad. The tray table is in the armrest.
Thank you!
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