to the Elite passenger on my yyc yyz flight...
Jan 10, 2012, 10:43 am
#61
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NOt the issue, the issue is the OP was upset that someone moved thier stuff. Two things to do, either tell the person not to tough it or allow them to move it. The OP did #2 and now came on to FT and complain about it, kind of passive agressive in my book. If the OP kindly informed the person not to move it, and a problem started, then get the FA involved... Not rocket science.
Back to OP's situation..............last thing the FA needed was a victim turned into an aggressor...... which potentially means (drama/yellow card/kicked out).............. But I do agree i would say something to the line of "hey......what are you trying to do?"
As for posting online, ehhh why not....sure many of us have experiences to shares
Long story short, not rocket science............ and some common sense involved.
Last edited by global happy traveller; Jan 10, 2012 at 10:48 am
Jan 10, 2012, 10:51 am
#62
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Either way - the staff made a possibly volatile incident into a good and funny one. Hopefully the jerk learned. What goes around comes around...
In regards to UA / CO I've noticed that too - but I've also noticed that the FA's are MUCH more vigilant on boarding in the right group, and bags that are oversized - no question gate check them. They dont tolerate much.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:49 pm
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Doesn't matter what AC the OP was one, there is a right way and the wrong way to get your point across. I don't have a problem if someone is moving items around to make room for thier items, however when it come to someone moving mystuff and then hand me my bag because there is no room for thier, then yes, I would talk to that person.
Regarding getting the FA, I would bring the FA in way before any thing physical would happen. I would hope that the Lead FA would see there is a problem and resolve it.
Regarding getting the FA, I would bring the FA in way before any thing physical would happen. I would hope that the Lead FA would see there is a problem and resolve it.
still simplistic, there are certain A/Cs where bins are designed to hold the bags vertically.......have some numb-nuts place them horizontally and whoever is trying to accommodate extra bags (be it the FA or another pax) will bound to touch it and move it.......... Wanna cause a scene by saying "F-off my bag"...... sooner or later it turns into an episode of Jerry Springer.........
Back to OP's situation..............last thing the FA needed was a victim turned into an aggressor...... which potentially means (drama/yellow card/kicked out).............. But I do agree i would say something to the line of "hey......what are you trying to do?"
As for posting online, ehhh why not....sure many of us have experiences to shares
Long story short, not rocket science............ and some common sense involved.
Back to OP's situation..............last thing the FA needed was a victim turned into an aggressor...... which potentially means (drama/yellow card/kicked out).............. But I do agree i would say something to the line of "hey......what are you trying to do?"
As for posting online, ehhh why not....sure many of us have experiences to shares
Long story short, not rocket science............ and some common sense involved.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:53 pm
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I think you need to reread my comments.
Never said I would "freak out" or "flame up". I stated that I would inform the person he didn't have permission to hand me my bag that placed in the over head bin, I would explain that is one of the problems of getting on the plane late.
Now if the incident becomes volatile then the other person is a jerk and would be escorted off the flight, as I wrote, hopefuly the lead FA would see this issue and intervene.
I'll stand by what i stated, if you allowed this person to move and hand your item back you because they wanted room for thier items and you didn't speak up then complain about it in a passive agressive way people will continue to do it to you.
Never said I would "freak out" or "flame up". I stated that I would inform the person he didn't have permission to hand me my bag that placed in the over head bin, I would explain that is one of the problems of getting on the plane late.
Now if the incident becomes volatile then the other person is a jerk and would be escorted off the flight, as I wrote, hopefuly the lead FA would see this issue and intervene.
I'll stand by what i stated, if you allowed this person to move and hand your item back you because they wanted room for thier items and you didn't speak up then complain about it in a passive agressive way people will continue to do it to you.
Because you'd flame up and freak out? Sometimes stuff happens faster than you can respond - and you know what? I thought no one would ever touch my stuff but it happened. When it happens to you, lets see how you respond.
Either way - the staff made a possibly volatile incident into a good and funny one. Hopefully the jerk learned. What goes around comes around...
In regards to UA / CO I've noticed that too - but I've also noticed that the FA's are MUCH more vigilant on boarding in the right group, and bags that are oversized - no question gate check them. They dont tolerate much.
Either way - the staff made a possibly volatile incident into a good and funny one. Hopefully the jerk learned. What goes around comes around...
In regards to UA / CO I've noticed that too - but I've also noticed that the FA's are MUCH more vigilant on boarding in the right group, and bags that are oversized - no question gate check them. They dont tolerate much.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:54 pm
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Jan 10, 2012, 9:06 pm
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Kudos to you for being cool about the whole affair, even though it was an awkward situation. I think I was on the same flight (not) and saw the guy afterwards with a big pout and puffy eyes, complaining to his mommy that he didn't get any dessert.
Jan 10, 2012, 9:59 pm
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There's a difference between shifting my bag around to fit an extra one next to it (perfectly acceptable) and dumping my bag off the overhead bin (maybe the death penalty does have its purpose).
Jan 10, 2012, 10:28 pm
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I did see them gate check a bunch of carry-ons on UA 361 a couple of days ago, though a woman in "F" had a bulging rollaboard which could not possibly have fit into the sizer. At least she had to go back to Y to stuff it into one of the bins there.
Jan 11, 2012, 2:38 pm
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I was on a UA flight SFO-LAX a couple of weeks ago...being AC*E I could board early...i had my small roll aboard with my backpack together that took the same space as a reg. carry on. At the end of boarding a suit comes on and of course there is no space. he was frantically opening bins and saw my combo and starting barking whos it was...i put up my hand! He said his was bigger and that both of my bags need to go under my seat so he can get the overhead bin....the FA was standing right there and recognized me a Star Gold - and immediately shut the bin and said to the guy " He is a star gold and was here ontime to get the bin - he will not lose his legroom because of your tardy behind...fit it under your own seat or give it to me and it goes underneath"....WOW - good job! the FA even gave me a free beer on the quick hop down the coast...
Jan 11, 2012, 5:24 pm
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I was on a UA flight SFO-LAX a couple of weeks ago...being AC*E I could board early...i had my small roll aboard with my backpack together that took the same space as a reg. carry on. At the end of boarding a suit comes on and of course there is no space. he was frantically opening bins and saw my combo and starting barking whos it was...i put up my hand! He said his was bigger and that both of my bags need to go under my seat so he can get the overhead bin....the FA was standing right there and recognized me a Star Gold - and immediately shut the bin and said to the guy " He is a star gold and was here ontime to get the bin - he will not lose his legroom because of your tardy behind...fit it under your own seat or give it to me and it goes underneath"....WOW - good job! the FA even gave me a free beer on the quick hop down the coast...
Still - I know from here I'll be watching like a hawk and if someone touches my bag they'll be sitting 3 rows back faster than you can say "devaluation of elite benefits and no ice cream"
Jan 11, 2012, 6:58 pm
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I didn't think so...
Jan 11, 2012, 7:18 pm
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payam81, if you'd read this thread from the start, you'd realize that jazzsax is the OP, and he DIDN'T get physical, and some criticized him for NOT taking action...his latest remark was in jest. But I gather, so was yours.