May 30, 2013, 9:55 pm
Last edit by: jerryhung
New List of Mini-RTW 2.0 version after Oct 29th, 2014 "enhancement" (i.e. less MPM)
FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries version 2.0 (post-"enhancement"
INTRO
This wiki is taken from the excellent overview in the first post of this thread by FrequentFlyer9000 and is meant as a guide to the Aeroplan "Mini-RTW" for the uninformed newbie flyer. This is a no judgment zone and newbies are welcome. In this thread, the usage of scary acronyms and complicated FlyerTalk insider-speak will be minimized.
Also, this wiki is a work in progress so please provide feedback or make wiki edits if you think something warrants it.
INFO & COMMON QUESTIONS
What is the "Mini-RTW"?
The Mini-RTW is a name given to a type of reward booking using Air Canada's Aeroplan miles. It is actually not a "round-the-world" ticket at all - it is a regular award redemption. Just as you would use 75K frequent flyer miles to go to Japan on another airline, you can use 75K to do so using Aeroplan miles. The difference is that Aeroplan allows you to "stopover" in multiple cities at no extra mileage cost, making it very attractive compared to other reward travel. It should be noted that this isn't really that much better than some other airlines. For example, Delta offers one stopover + open jaw, which is only one stopover worse than Aeroplan's deal. But many of the airlines only offer one stopover and no open jaw. So there is definitely value here.
In addition to your final destination (in which you can stay for days/weeks/months), you are allowed:
•Two stopovers in other cities (stay for days/weeks/months). You are allowed to trade one of these stopovers for an open jaw (where you land in one city, but take the next flight out of another city)
•10 segments (layovers during which you spend less than 24 hours in a given city) <-- this limit may be gone as of 2014/2015
So, disregarding the additional 10 segments, an award trip for Japan could actually look like this:
NYC > Tokyo (destination - one week) > Paris (stopover - one week) > London (stopover - one week) > NYC
You basically get three times the world exploration for the price of one. If you add on the extra layovers allowed, you can turn it into:
NYC > Los Angeles (one day) > Hawaii (one day) > Tokyo (one week) > Seoul (one day) > Hong Kong (one day) > Paris (one week) > Munich (one day) > London (one week) > Washington DC (one day) > NYC
Of course, you don't have to do the above. Spending so much time in airports can be exhausting. But the option is there for you if you want it.
How many miles is this going to cost me?
See the Award Travel chart here.
From North America to "Asia 1" countries: (effective Jan 1, 2014)
•75K in Economy
•150K in Business
•210K in First
From North America to "Europe 1" countries:
•60K in Economy
•90K in Business
•125K in First
...and so on. Check the link for other combinations. Assuming you are stopping in three cities, the city in the most "expensive" redemption zone is the zone you will have to pay for. So if you are visiting two Asia1 zone cities and one Middle East city, you will pay 80K miles rather than 75K miles since that is what the Middle East trip costs (numbers assume Economy class travel).
Which miles do I need to use? Can I use miles from other Star Alliance airlines?
You need to use Aeroplan miles. You cannot use miles from other Star Alliance members, such as United, to book this mini-RTW. However, you can book flights for the mini-RTW on any airline that is in the alliance and has the desired award seating available. You technically do not have to fly any segments on Air Canada at all.
So, what's the catch? What are the restrictions?
There is no catch. However, there are some restrictions on your itinerary. This is where things get a bit more complicated.
Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM) - FlyerTalk Forums
This is no longer valid after 10/29/2014
2) If you do elect to use an open jaw instead of one of your stopovers, you must schedule the open jaw so that it is in the same "IATA zone" as either the origin or the destination city. So if you are going from NY to Japan to Europe and back to NY, the open jaw cannot be scheduled in Europe, since it is neither the origin zone or the destination zone. The open jaw also cannot be a larger distance than any two legs you are actually flying. In case you are wondering, IATA zones are as follows:
IATA 1 - The Americas (incl. Caribbean, Hawaii)
IATA 2 - Europe as far as the Ural Mountain range, Middle East & Africa
IATA 3 - Oceania, SE Asia, Far East, Sub-Continent.
Remember that if you use your open jaw at the turnaround/destination point, you will only have one stopover to use left. So you would be able to do NYC > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. This has one destination, one open jaw (at turnaround point), and one stopover. However, you would not be able to do this: NYC > Madrid (stop) > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. Because your 2 stops + 1 open jaw would be more than the two allowed.
3) You cannot land in the same city twice in any one direction. This means that on my way from NY to, let's say, Cairo, I cannot do New York > London > Paris > London > Cairo on the way there, since I would be stopping in London twice in one direction. However, I can stop in London on the way to Cairo and then again on the way back from Cairo.
4) The actual trip needs to be "bookable". It needs to follow certain rules. I won't get into too many details, but anything completely nonsensical in terms of routing is generally not going to fly. But most routes will not fall into this category. Just something to keep in mind.
Do I have to go in the same direction for every leg of the flight?
No. As an example, you can cross the Atlantic twice or cross both the Atlantic and the Pacific once (more like a real RTW trip).
How do I book this?
Assuming you have already planned out your entire itinerary to the dot and have made sure your trip is in accordance with the above restrictions, call Aeroplan and speak with a representative. Alternatively, you can try to book online for free. However, this is not always possible with more complicated routings.
What will this cost me in real cash? How can I minimize fees?
It depends on the region you travel to and which airline you fly on. In general, the more Air Canada segments you fly the more fees/taxes you will pay. Aeroplan does not collect surcharges on non-Air Canada-operated flights. So flying Air Canada internationally will cost you extra. If you use a lot of Air Canada flights in your mini-RTW, your fees could be anywhere from $150 to $400, even sometimes creeping up above $600. Lesson is to avoid AC "metal" (airplanes) if possible.
Every trip will have a $30 cost per person for booking on the phone, regardless of the itinerary.
What are the change fees if I want to change a leg or multiple legs of the trip later?
$90 for changes after original booking. If there is an involuntary change because of flight schedules changing, there is no fee charged. Note that when you make a change, the taxes/fees associated with fuel, etc. may change. They may decrease or increase depending on the previous flight and the new flight. This is independent of the $90 rebooking fee. The $90 is flat regardless of how many of the segments you change. It is not $90 per changed segment.
How do I plan this trip out? Even finding a simple award ticket can be difficult online, let alone one with 10 segments!
Good question. It is recommended that you use either the All-Nippon Airways (ANA) website (guide on how here), the KVS tool (costs money) or ExpertFlyer (costs money), or http://FliSea.com. I personally like to use KVS, but it is not newbie-friendly. It is $20 for 2 months for the "diamond" level service, and $75 for a year. Small price to pay for saving a lot of time, if you can handle the learning curve. ANA is a good free method of finding segments and many people have had plenty of success with it; FliSea is a metasearch tool that uses all of the sites above.
The trick is to do this one segment at a time. So first find NYC > LONDON for the date you want and make sure that the award class you are looking for is available (e.g. Economy low fare). Then do the next leg: LONDON > ROME. Repeat for every segment. Write down the details of each flight, calculate the mileage using the www.gcmap.com resource, and call up Aeroplan to book.
One of our Flyertalk members has built a database with all the Mini-RTW routes that have been flown in the various threads in one simple place: http://www.turnleftat.com/mini-rtw-list/
FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries version 2.0 (post-"enhancement"
INTRO
This wiki is taken from the excellent overview in the first post of this thread by FrequentFlyer9000 and is meant as a guide to the Aeroplan "Mini-RTW" for the uninformed newbie flyer. This is a no judgment zone and newbies are welcome. In this thread, the usage of scary acronyms and complicated FlyerTalk insider-speak will be minimized.
Also, this wiki is a work in progress so please provide feedback or make wiki edits if you think something warrants it.
INFO & COMMON QUESTIONS
What is the "Mini-RTW"?
The Mini-RTW is a name given to a type of reward booking using Air Canada's Aeroplan miles. It is actually not a "round-the-world" ticket at all - it is a regular award redemption. Just as you would use 75K frequent flyer miles to go to Japan on another airline, you can use 75K to do so using Aeroplan miles. The difference is that Aeroplan allows you to "stopover" in multiple cities at no extra mileage cost, making it very attractive compared to other reward travel. It should be noted that this isn't really that much better than some other airlines. For example, Delta offers one stopover + open jaw, which is only one stopover worse than Aeroplan's deal. But many of the airlines only offer one stopover and no open jaw. So there is definitely value here.
In addition to your final destination (in which you can stay for days/weeks/months), you are allowed:
•Two stopovers in other cities (stay for days/weeks/months). You are allowed to trade one of these stopovers for an open jaw (where you land in one city, but take the next flight out of another city)
•10 segments (layovers during which you spend less than 24 hours in a given city) <-- this limit may be gone as of 2014/2015
So, disregarding the additional 10 segments, an award trip for Japan could actually look like this:
NYC > Tokyo (destination - one week) > Paris (stopover - one week) > London (stopover - one week) > NYC
You basically get three times the world exploration for the price of one. If you add on the extra layovers allowed, you can turn it into:
NYC > Los Angeles (one day) > Hawaii (one day) > Tokyo (one week) > Seoul (one day) > Hong Kong (one day) > Paris (one week) > Munich (one day) > London (one week) > Washington DC (one day) > NYC
Of course, you don't have to do the above. Spending so much time in airports can be exhausting. But the option is there for you if you want it.
How many miles is this going to cost me?
See the Award Travel chart here.
From North America to "Asia 1" countries: (effective Jan 1, 2014)
•75K in Economy
•150K in Business
•210K in First
From North America to "Europe 1" countries:
•60K in Economy
•90K in Business
•125K in First
...and so on. Check the link for other combinations. Assuming you are stopping in three cities, the city in the most "expensive" redemption zone is the zone you will have to pay for. So if you are visiting two Asia1 zone cities and one Middle East city, you will pay 80K miles rather than 75K miles since that is what the Middle East trip costs (numbers assume Economy class travel).
Which miles do I need to use? Can I use miles from other Star Alliance airlines?
You need to use Aeroplan miles. You cannot use miles from other Star Alliance members, such as United, to book this mini-RTW. However, you can book flights for the mini-RTW on any airline that is in the alliance and has the desired award seating available. You technically do not have to fly any segments on Air Canada at all.
So, what's the catch? What are the restrictions?
There is no catch. However, there are some restrictions on your itinerary. This is where things get a bit more complicated.
Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM) - FlyerTalk Forums
This is no longer valid after 10/29/2014
1) Your itinerary must be within 5% of the total "Maximum Permitted Mileage" (MPM) for the route from the origin to the destination. Even though you are stopping in three cities by using your two stopovers and a final destination, you can define the destination as the stop city furthest away from the origin. Although certain flyers have gotten away with telling an inattentive phone rep that their final destination / "turnaround city" is one of their layover cities to increase their MPM, this does not always work. Sticking with one of your three stop cities is a safe bet.
MPM exist so that you cannot repeatedly fly around the world 10 times on your 10 segments. There is a limit to how many miles you can fly on the reward ticket. MPM guidelines can be found by using the KVS tool or by using Expert Flyer. MPM is calculated between your origin and your destination, one-way. The trips to and from your destination are calculated separately. You are allowed to overshoot this number by 5% ("MPM5"). If you can find a bookable itinerary online that has a mileage longer than the published MPM, this is a "published routing" and can be used even if it exceeds the MPM5. In KVS, navigate to the "Reference" tab, select "MPM" from the dropdown menu, and enter your city pair. MPM information is available under the Travel Information section of ExpertFlyer. It is available to all subscribers, Basic or Premium, and there is a 5-day free trial to ExpertFlyer.com that can be used.
To see if your itinerary fits your MPM limit, you can use the site here to see your total miles traveled: www.gcmap.com. Enter your airport codes separated by dashes to see the itinerary and get the total mileage (e.g. NYC - LHR - NYC). Example here.
TO READ MORE ABOUT MPM: Read this (short) document
MPM exist so that you cannot repeatedly fly around the world 10 times on your 10 segments. There is a limit to how many miles you can fly on the reward ticket. MPM guidelines can be found by using the KVS tool or by using Expert Flyer. MPM is calculated between your origin and your destination, one-way. The trips to and from your destination are calculated separately. You are allowed to overshoot this number by 5% ("MPM5"). If you can find a bookable itinerary online that has a mileage longer than the published MPM, this is a "published routing" and can be used even if it exceeds the MPM5. In KVS, navigate to the "Reference" tab, select "MPM" from the dropdown menu, and enter your city pair. MPM information is available under the Travel Information section of ExpertFlyer. It is available to all subscribers, Basic or Premium, and there is a 5-day free trial to ExpertFlyer.com that can be used.
To see if your itinerary fits your MPM limit, you can use the site here to see your total miles traveled: www.gcmap.com. Enter your airport codes separated by dashes to see the itinerary and get the total mileage (e.g. NYC - LHR - NYC). Example here.
TO READ MORE ABOUT MPM: Read this (short) document
IATA 1 - The Americas (incl. Caribbean, Hawaii)
IATA 2 - Europe as far as the Ural Mountain range, Middle East & Africa
IATA 3 - Oceania, SE Asia, Far East, Sub-Continent.
Remember that if you use your open jaw at the turnaround/destination point, you will only have one stopover to use left. So you would be able to do NYC > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. This has one destination, one open jaw (at turnaround point), and one stopover. However, you would not be able to do this: NYC > Madrid (stop) > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. Because your 2 stops + 1 open jaw would be more than the two allowed.
3) You cannot land in the same city twice in any one direction. This means that on my way from NY to, let's say, Cairo, I cannot do New York > London > Paris > London > Cairo on the way there, since I would be stopping in London twice in one direction. However, I can stop in London on the way to Cairo and then again on the way back from Cairo.
4) The actual trip needs to be "bookable". It needs to follow certain rules. I won't get into too many details, but anything completely nonsensical in terms of routing is generally not going to fly. But most routes will not fall into this category. Just something to keep in mind.
Do I have to go in the same direction for every leg of the flight?
No. As an example, you can cross the Atlantic twice or cross both the Atlantic and the Pacific once (more like a real RTW trip).
How do I book this?
Assuming you have already planned out your entire itinerary to the dot and have made sure your trip is in accordance with the above restrictions, call Aeroplan and speak with a representative. Alternatively, you can try to book online for free. However, this is not always possible with more complicated routings.
What will this cost me in real cash? How can I minimize fees?
It depends on the region you travel to and which airline you fly on. In general, the more Air Canada segments you fly the more fees/taxes you will pay. Aeroplan does not collect surcharges on non-Air Canada-operated flights. So flying Air Canada internationally will cost you extra. If you use a lot of Air Canada flights in your mini-RTW, your fees could be anywhere from $150 to $400, even sometimes creeping up above $600. Lesson is to avoid AC "metal" (airplanes) if possible.
Every trip will have a $30 cost per person for booking on the phone, regardless of the itinerary.
What are the change fees if I want to change a leg or multiple legs of the trip later?
$90 for changes after original booking. If there is an involuntary change because of flight schedules changing, there is no fee charged. Note that when you make a change, the taxes/fees associated with fuel, etc. may change. They may decrease or increase depending on the previous flight and the new flight. This is independent of the $90 rebooking fee. The $90 is flat regardless of how many of the segments you change. It is not $90 per changed segment.
How do I plan this trip out? Even finding a simple award ticket can be difficult online, let alone one with 10 segments!
Good question. It is recommended that you use either the All-Nippon Airways (ANA) website (guide on how here), the KVS tool (costs money) or ExpertFlyer (costs money), or http://FliSea.com. I personally like to use KVS, but it is not newbie-friendly. It is $20 for 2 months for the "diamond" level service, and $75 for a year. Small price to pay for saving a lot of time, if you can handle the learning curve. ANA is a good free method of finding segments and many people have had plenty of success with it; FliSea is a metasearch tool that uses all of the sites above.
The trick is to do this one segment at a time. So first find NYC > LONDON for the date you want and make sure that the award class you are looking for is available (e.g. Economy low fare). Then do the next leg: LONDON > ROME. Repeat for every segment. Write down the details of each flight, calculate the mileage using the www.gcmap.com resource, and call up Aeroplan to book.
One of our Flyertalk members has built a database with all the Mini-RTW routes that have been flown in the various threads in one simple place: http://www.turnleftat.com/mini-rtw-list/
FAQ: The Complete Newbie Guide/FAQ to the Air Canada Aeroplan Mini-RTW
Jan 18, 2018, 5:18 am
#1726
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 742
Just changed the final 4 segments of this trip 24 hours before original planned date, paid 100CAD
SGN-BKK-ARN-WAW (stop)
WAW-CDG (23 hr layover)
CDG-ZRH-FCO(stop)
FCO-EWR-YYZ (turnaround)
YYZ-ORD-ARN-BKK-SGN
@155k points and 265CAD (then another 100). on Thai, SAS, LOT, SWISS, UA only.
If I had planned a bit better would have stopped in europe both ways. What are the best sweet spots that allow this sort of routing? Similar but to Aus/NZ? I might have to book another one as I don't live in Asia. 155k for this represents great value however.
SGN-BKK-ARN-WAW (stop)
WAW-CDG (23 hr layover)
CDG-ZRH-FCO(stop)
FCO-EWR-YYZ (turnaround)
YYZ-ORD-ARN-BKK-SGN
@155k points and 265CAD (then another 100). on Thai, SAS, LOT, SWISS, UA only.
If I had planned a bit better would have stopped in europe both ways. What are the best sweet spots that allow this sort of routing? Similar but to Aus/NZ? I might have to book another one as I don't live in Asia. 155k for this represents great value however.
Last edited by moops380; Jan 18, 2018 at 5:20 am Reason: typo
Jan 19, 2018, 10:44 am
#1729
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 742
this would even lower the taxes... OSL seems like a good jumping off point for cheap flights, or maybe ZRH. would prefer the Tatl to be on swiss or SAS.
SGN-BKK-OSL(stop)
OSL-EWR(turnaround)
EWR-OSL (stop)
OSL-ARN-BKK-SGN
Have also been comparing this with the ANA rtw possibility, which can be done for 115k with more stops but only one stop in europe. ANA has more fuel surcharge airilnes as well which takes SWISS and SAS out of the equation. Have to use UA/AC/NZ/air china and low yq LO/ANA/BR.
Jan 19, 2018, 4:50 pm
#1730
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
Yes, just need to book intra-europe flights separately. Only yq was maybe on LOT.
this would even lower the taxes... OSL seems like a good jumping off point for cheap flights, or maybe ZRH. would prefer the Tatl to be on swiss or SAS.
SGN-BKK-OSL(stop)
OSL-EWR(turnaround)
EWR-OSL (stop)
OSL-ARN-BKK-SGN
Have also been comparing this with the ANA rtw possibility, which can be done for 115k with more stops but only one stop in europe. ANA has more fuel surcharge airilnes as well which takes SWISS and SAS out of the equation. Have to use UA/AC/NZ/air china and low yq LO/ANA/BR.
this would even lower the taxes... OSL seems like a good jumping off point for cheap flights, or maybe ZRH. would prefer the Tatl to be on swiss or SAS.
SGN-BKK-OSL(stop)
OSL-EWR(turnaround)
EWR-OSL (stop)
OSL-ARN-BKK-SGN
Have also been comparing this with the ANA rtw possibility, which can be done for 115k with more stops but only one stop in europe. ANA has more fuel surcharge airilnes as well which takes SWISS and SAS out of the equation. Have to use UA/AC/NZ/air china and low yq LO/ANA/BR.
Jan 30, 2018, 9:28 am
#1732
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
I can book YYZ-PVG-SYD-SIN-LHR-IAD-YYZ online right now, so you should be fine. You may find you're limited to straight-line routings on this one (for example, YYZ-LAX-TPE may put you over) but otherwise you should be fine.
Jan 31, 2018, 11:19 pm
#1733
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 77
you can book your itinerary on areoplan website? or other website? I think I have to call aeroplan if I want more than one stopover.
Feb 1, 2018, 11:05 pm
#1734
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
You'll need to call in to book multiple stop-overs, but if I can book that series of cities on short connections, it means the MPM is valid for however long you stop.
Feb 19, 2018, 5:37 pm
#1736
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Programs: Former AC SE/100 but now a lowly 25k
Posts: 11
Mini RTW through SYD to MLE (looking for addon suggestions)
Booked the following online when wife said I could do a week or two away diving this fall:
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
Feb 19, 2018, 6:11 pm
#1737
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
Booked the following online when wife said I could do a week or two away diving this fall:
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
The downside to this plan would be... Egyptair and Air India.
Feb 19, 2018, 7:00 pm
#1738
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: Bottom feeder Star Gold
Posts: 2,652
Have you considered using Ethiopian to fly to ADD (and onwards to JIB) for some great diving there? The Sept Frères Archipelago is accessible via liveaboard if you have the time.
Feb 20, 2018, 7:06 am
#1739
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,314
Booked the following online when wife said I could do a week or two away diving this fall:
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
YVR - SYD (STOP) - popping up to Cairns to dive the Great Barrier Reef off a liveaboard for a full week
SYD - SIN (15h LAYOVER)
SIN - MLE (TURNAROUND) - staying over for three and a half days to get in two days of diving
MLE - DEL (7h LAYOVER)
DEL - YVR
Now opened up to my being away a little longer. Seems to me I really only have the one stop and one turnaround, meaning if I booked through the call centre I'd potentially be able to get another stop or open jaw out of the deal. I'd love to get a full Business Class RTW out of my 150k points, especially since I'm about to lose my SE100K status, so if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the Red Sea for a little more diving or any other interesting routing options, I'd love to hear them before all my J availability dries up after the 28th of February. Cheers!
Craig.
Feb 22, 2018, 8:07 pm
#1740
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Quick questions, I've got lots of experience with the MINI-RTWs, but this topic eludes me a little, and I'd rather ask here to save the phone call 
What airports are interchangeable in LA? I'm not sure if interchangeable is the right word, but hopefully you guys know what I mean, maybe it's called "same city"? I ask because of course options include BUR, ONT, LAX and SNA.
Also, I've got the same question for the DC area. Options there include DCA, IAD and BWI. All of which are in two different states, so I'm not sure if ANY of those would count at all.
My final question, and I only ask to be 100% clear...I know the INTL connections have to be < 24 hours. I'm under the impression domestic connections have to be < 12, but what about transborder connections? What do those fall under? I'm trying to squeeze like 3-4 cities into a "domestic" multi-city, so I only technically get 2 stops.
What airports are interchangeable in LA? I'm not sure if interchangeable is the right word, but hopefully you guys know what I mean, maybe it's called "same city"? I ask because of course options include BUR, ONT, LAX and SNA.
Also, I've got the same question for the DC area. Options there include DCA, IAD and BWI. All of which are in two different states, so I'm not sure if ANY of those would count at all.
My final question, and I only ask to be 100% clear...I know the INTL connections have to be < 24 hours. I'm under the impression domestic connections have to be < 12, but what about transborder connections? What do those fall under? I'm trying to squeeze like 3-4 cities into a "domestic" multi-city, so I only technically get 2 stops.