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Old May 30, 2013, 9:55 pm
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FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries version 2.0 (post-"enhancement&quot

INTRO

This wiki is taken from the excellent overview in the first post of this thread by FrequentFlyer9000 and is meant as a guide to the Aeroplan "Mini-RTW" for the uninformed newbie flyer. This is a no judgment zone and newbies are welcome. In this thread, the usage of scary acronyms and complicated FlyerTalk insider-speak will be minimized.

Also, this wiki is a work in progress so please provide feedback or make wiki edits if you think something warrants it.

INFO & COMMON QUESTIONS

What is the "Mini-RTW"?

The Mini-RTW is a name given to a type of reward booking using Air Canada's Aeroplan miles. It is actually not a "round-the-world" ticket at all - it is a regular award redemption. Just as you would use 75K frequent flyer miles to go to Japan on another airline, you can use 75K to do so using Aeroplan miles. The difference is that Aeroplan allows you to "stopover" in multiple cities at no extra mileage cost, making it very attractive compared to other reward travel. It should be noted that this isn't really that much better than some other airlines. For example, Delta offers one stopover + open jaw, which is only one stopover worse than Aeroplan's deal. But many of the airlines only offer one stopover and no open jaw. So there is definitely value here.

In addition to your final destination (in which you can stay for days/weeks/months), you are allowed:

•Two stopovers in other cities (stay for days/weeks/months). You are allowed to trade one of these stopovers for an open jaw (where you land in one city, but take the next flight out of another city)
•10 segments (layovers during which you spend less than 24 hours in a given city) <-- this limit may be gone as of 2014/2015

So, disregarding the additional 10 segments, an award trip for Japan could actually look like this:

NYC > Tokyo (destination - one week) > Paris (stopover - one week) > London (stopover - one week) > NYC

You basically get three times the world exploration for the price of one. If you add on the extra layovers allowed, you can turn it into:

NYC > Los Angeles (one day) > Hawaii (one day) > Tokyo (one week) > Seoul (one day) > Hong Kong (one day) > Paris (one week) > Munich (one day) > London (one week) > Washington DC (one day) > NYC

Of course, you don't have to do the above. Spending so much time in airports can be exhausting. But the option is there for you if you want it.


How many miles is this going to cost me?

See the Award Travel chart here.

From North America to "Asia 1" countries: (effective Jan 1, 2014)
•75K in Economy
•150K in Business
•210K in First

From North America to "Europe 1" countries:
•60K in Economy
•90K in Business
•125K in First

...and so on. Check the link for other combinations. Assuming you are stopping in three cities, the city in the most "expensive" redemption zone is the zone you will have to pay for. So if you are visiting two Asia1 zone cities and one Middle East city, you will pay 80K miles rather than 75K miles since that is what the Middle East trip costs (numbers assume Economy class travel).

Which miles do I need to use? Can I use miles from other Star Alliance airlines?

You need to use Aeroplan miles. You cannot use miles from other Star Alliance members, such as United, to book this mini-RTW. However, you can book flights for the mini-RTW on any airline that is in the alliance and has the desired award seating available. You technically do not have to fly any segments on Air Canada at all.

So, what's the catch? What are the restrictions?

There is no catch. However, there are some restrictions on your itinerary. This is where things get a bit more complicated.

Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
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This is no longer valid after 10/29/2014
1) Your itinerary must be within 5% of the total "Maximum Permitted Mileage" (MPM) for the route from the origin to the destination. Even though you are stopping in three cities by using your two stopovers and a final destination, you can define the destination as the stop city furthest away from the origin. Although certain flyers have gotten away with telling an inattentive phone rep that their final destination / "turnaround city" is one of their layover cities to increase their MPM, this does not always work. Sticking with one of your three stop cities is a safe bet.

MPM exist so that you cannot repeatedly fly around the world 10 times on your 10 segments. There is a limit to how many miles you can fly on the reward ticket. MPM guidelines can be found by using the KVS tool or by using Expert Flyer. MPM is calculated between your origin and your destination, one-way. The trips to and from your destination are calculated separately. You are allowed to overshoot this number by 5% ("MPM5"). If you can find a bookable itinerary online that has a mileage longer than the published MPM, this is a "published routing" and can be used even if it exceeds the MPM5. In KVS, navigate to the "Reference" tab, select "MPM" from the dropdown menu, and enter your city pair. MPM information is available under the Travel Information section of ExpertFlyer. It is available to all subscribers, Basic or Premium, and there is a 5-day free trial to ExpertFlyer.com that can be used.

To see if your itinerary fits your MPM limit, you can use the site here to see your total miles traveled: www.gcmap.com. Enter your airport codes separated by dashes to see the itinerary and get the total mileage (e.g. NYC - LHR - NYC). Example here.

TO READ MORE ABOUT MPM: Read this (short) document
2) If you do elect to use an open jaw instead of one of your stopovers, you must schedule the open jaw so that it is in the same "IATA zone" as either the origin or the destination city. So if you are going from NY to Japan to Europe and back to NY, the open jaw cannot be scheduled in Europe, since it is neither the origin zone or the destination zone. The open jaw also cannot be a larger distance than any two legs you are actually flying. In case you are wondering, IATA zones are as follows:

IATA 1 - The Americas (incl. Caribbean, Hawaii)
IATA 2 - Europe as far as the Ural Mountain range, Middle East & Africa
IATA 3 - Oceania, SE Asia, Far East, Sub-Continent.

Remember that if you use your open jaw at the turnaround/destination point, you will only have one stopover to use left. So you would be able to do NYC > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. This has one destination, one open jaw (at turnaround point), and one stopover. However, you would not be able to do this: NYC > Madrid (stop) > Singapore (destination, open jaw) // Tokyo (stop) > NYC. Because your 2 stops + 1 open jaw would be more than the two allowed.

3) You cannot land in the same city twice in any one direction. This means that on my way from NY to, let's say, Cairo, I cannot do New York > London > Paris > London > Cairo on the way there, since I would be stopping in London twice in one direction. However, I can stop in London on the way to Cairo and then again on the way back from Cairo.

4) The actual trip needs to be "bookable". It needs to follow certain rules. I won't get into too many details, but anything completely nonsensical in terms of routing is generally not going to fly. But most routes will not fall into this category. Just something to keep in mind.


Do I have to go in the same direction for every leg of the flight?

No. As an example, you can cross the Atlantic twice or cross both the Atlantic and the Pacific once (more like a real RTW trip).


How do I book this?

Assuming you have already planned out your entire itinerary to the dot and have made sure your trip is in accordance with the above restrictions, call Aeroplan and speak with a representative. Alternatively, you can try to book online for free. However, this is not always possible with more complicated routings.


What will this cost me in real cash? How can I minimize fees?
It depends on the region you travel to and which airline you fly on. In general, the more Air Canada segments you fly the more fees/taxes you will pay. Aeroplan does not collect surcharges on non-Air Canada-operated flights. So flying Air Canada internationally will cost you extra. If you use a lot of Air Canada flights in your mini-RTW, your fees could be anywhere from $150 to $400, even sometimes creeping up above $600. Lesson is to avoid AC "metal" (airplanes) if possible.

Every trip will have a $30 cost per person for booking on the phone, regardless of the itinerary.


What are the change fees if I want to change a leg or multiple legs of the trip later?

$90 for changes after original booking. If there is an involuntary change because of flight schedules changing, there is no fee charged. Note that when you make a change, the taxes/fees associated with fuel, etc. may change. They may decrease or increase depending on the previous flight and the new flight. This is independent of the $90 rebooking fee. The $90 is flat regardless of how many of the segments you change. It is not $90 per changed segment.


How do I plan this trip out? Even finding a simple award ticket can be difficult online, let alone one with 10 segments!

Good question. It is recommended that you use either the All-Nippon Airways (ANA) website (guide on how here), the KVS tool (costs money) or ExpertFlyer (costs money), or http://FliSea.com. I personally like to use KVS, but it is not newbie-friendly. It is $20 for 2 months for the "diamond" level service, and $75 for a year. Small price to pay for saving a lot of time, if you can handle the learning curve. ANA is a good free method of finding segments and many people have had plenty of success with it; FliSea is a metasearch tool that uses all of the sites above.

The trick is to do this one segment at a time. So first find NYC > LONDON for the date you want and make sure that the award class you are looking for is available (e.g. Economy low fare). Then do the next leg: LONDON > ROME. Repeat for every segment. Write down the details of each flight, calculate the mileage using the www.gcmap.com resource, and call up Aeroplan to book.

One of our Flyertalk members has built a database with all the Mini-RTW routes that have been flown in the various threads in one simple place: http://www.turnleftat.com/mini-rtw-list/
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 8:24 pm
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Hi, question about my first mini rtw next year which is YYZ-TPE-SYD-CDG-YYZ. I checked aeroplan website segment by segment . If they are all available, can I just call aeroplan to book? or do I have to use some search engines such united or ana to search for YYZ-SYD, and to look for YYZ-SYD via TPE routing which is exact same as aeroplan provides, then book? thank you.
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Old Apr 8, 2018, 4:08 pm
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would this be valid for 60k in Y?

YVR-LHR-CPH-KEF// OJ/Stopover
KEF-OSL-VIE// Dest
VIE-LHR// Stopover
LHR-YVR

Or is it not valid because KEF is Europe 2, while VIE/LHR are Europe 1, despite VIE being more mileage than KEF?

(Let's ignore for a moment that I'm not 100% what the YVR-VIE MPM actually is. according to the other thread with YVR-ZRH at 8300, it's probably a bit higher than that - YVR-LHR-CPH-KEF-OSL-VIE is 8600 so it might just be okay on that front)
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Old Apr 8, 2018, 11:31 pm
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Any advice on booking to Europe?

Not having any luck finding flights from western Canada into Amsterdam and no direct flights from Istanbul to Johannesburg... tried looking within a few months in and 6+ months out... no flights via United show either in Business. Has Aeroplan limited these searches??
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
would this be valid for 60k in Y?

YVR-LHR-CPH-KEF// OJ/Stopover
KEF-OSL-VIE// Dest
VIE-LHR// Stopover
LHR-YVR

Or is it not valid because KEF is Europe 2, while VIE/LHR are Europe 1, despite VIE being more mileage than KEF?

(Let's ignore for a moment that I'm not 100% what the YVR-VIE MPM actually is. according to the other thread with YVR-ZRH at 8300, it's probably a bit higher than that - YVR-LHR-CPH-KEF-OSL-VIE is 8600 so it might just be okay on that front)
Since you have stop over in Europe 2, you'll be charged Europe 2 points for your trip (75K in Y).
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by laddielad
Any advice on booking to Europe?

Not having any luck finding flights from western Canada into Amsterdam and no direct flights from Istanbul to Johannesburg... tried looking within a few months in and 6+ months out... no flights via United show either in Business. Has Aeroplan limited these searches??
Aeroplan doesnt limit searches, but it prefers you fly AC/LH.
Check United.com for united space, and verify that it shows up on Aeroplan.
Most United space across the oceans is snapped up quickly by the thousands of credit card points owners in UA's own program.
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
would this be valid for 60k in Y?

YVR-LHR-CPH-KEF// OJ/Stopover
KEF-OSL-VIE// Dest
VIE-LHR// Stopover
LHR-YVR
MPM for YVR-VIE is just over 9000, so you're ok there.
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 1:25 pm
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Wondering if anyone can give me a hand, as I have tried to be as helpful as I can over the years on this forum. I have done many RTW's to Asia, but this is my first time struggling to do a mini one to Europe. Once I make it to Europe, I have my flights figured out, but I am having one hell of a time getting there.

I am looking to go YYC - ZRH/GVA (but obviously would take any low YQ airline over the Atlantic) around September 6 +-2 days.

Looking to return ZRH/GVA - YYC Sept 17 +- 2 days.

I can't find anything. I am consuming hours trying to create routings on Expert Flyer. Thought I would come to the lovely FT community for tips/advice. Thanks!
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by CanuckFlyHigh
&lt;br /&gt;I can't find anything. I am consuming hours trying to create routings on Expert Flyer. Thought I would come to the lovely FT community for tips/advice. Thanks!
There is ZRH-ORD-BUD on the 18th
There are various options from ORD to YYC in combination of Y and J that/next day
There is also a ZRH-BOS on LX that day, but would require an overnight

Your best bet for low YQ flights ($100ish each direction) this late in the game (LX apart from some BOS sprinkled in, and UA would be long gone) will be ORD-KRK/WAW/BUD/PRG. They also fly from JFK to WAW/BUD - but obviously that would require a bus LGA/JFK

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Old Apr 21, 2018, 2:44 pm
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Thank you! I wasn't even thinking of LO. I was trying LX, TK, and UA searching on EF one by one, from every single hub to every single hub with no luck on crossing the Atlantic. I wish there was an easier way.
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by CanuckFlyHigh
Wondering if anyone can give me a hand, as I have tried to be as helpful as I can over the years on this forum. I have done many RTW's to Asia, but this is my first time struggling to do a mini one to Europe. Once I make it to Europe, I have my flights figured out, but I am having one hell of a time getting there.

I am looking to go YYC - ZRH/GVA (but obviously would take any low YQ airline over the Atlantic) around September 6 +-2 days.

Looking to return ZRH/GVA - YYC Sept 17 +- 2 days.

.
I can't find anything. I am consuming hours trying to create routings on Expert Flyer. Thought I would come to the lovely FT community for tips/advice. Thanks!
YYZ - AMS usually always shows seats to and fro. That will get you to the continent. They have been using the 787 from what i last saw
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by corruptcanadian
YYZ - AMS usually always shows seats to and fro. That will get you to the continent. They have been using the 787 from what i last saw
Sorry, I forgot the most important part. I need to be in J
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by CanuckFlyHigh
Thank you! I wasn't even thinking of LO. I was trying LX, TK, and UA searching on EF one by one, from every single hub to every single hub with no luck on crossing the Atlantic. I wish there was an easier way.
Search united.com and look for saver inventory. Unfortunatelly most of it will be LH
Originally Posted by corruptcanadian
YYZ - AMS usually always shows seats to and fro. That will get you to the continent. They have been using the 787 from what i last saw
I dont think the OP is interested in paying $1000 extra to fly AC.
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Old Apr 21, 2018, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by CanuckFlyHigh
Sorry, I forgot the most important part. I need to be in J
Swiss awards are sometimes restricted to married segments from Europe for Zurich. If you look on Aeroplan for Geneva to JFK for September 18, you'll see one of the options routing through Zurich, but a search for Zurich to JFK alone for that date did not show that flight
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Old Apr 23, 2018, 9:39 pm
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expertflyer.com

I checked on expertflyer.com and it shows availability on LH for March 2019:
First - Award/Upgrade- O- Yes
Business - Award/Upgrade- I - Yes
Economy - Award- X- Yes

However, when I login to Aeroplan.com, I don't see this availability. Anyone knows why?
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Old Apr 23, 2018, 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by FFSaver
I checked on expertflyer.com and it shows availability on LH for March 2019:
First - Award/Upgrade- O- Yes
Business - Award/Upgrade- I - Yes
Economy - Award- X- Yes

However, when I login to Aeroplan.com, I don't see this availability. Anyone knows why?
LH released awards early for some reason. AP and UA are blocking.
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