Mini RTW Questions
Jan 20, 2018, 6:03 pm
#5371
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: CVG, originally LAX/SNA
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum, Hilton Honors Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 77
Is the MQM accounting for just one way or round trip? I just want to get some clarification since I'm planning to build this itinerary: ORD-TPE-ICN-NRT-SIN. It comes to be around 12.5k miles flown with overnight layovers which are under 24 hours in ICN and NRT with the MQM being around 15k. Would that be a valid booking?
Also does Aeroplan count NRT and HND separately in terms of booking and violating the rules for transfer?
Also does Aeroplan count NRT and HND separately in terms of booking and violating the rules for transfer?
Jan 20, 2018, 6:46 pm
#5372
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YHZ
Programs: HH Gold, MR Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 87
Is the MQM accounting for just one way or round trip? I just want to get some clarification since I'm planning to build this itinerary: ORD-TPE-ICN-NRT-SIN. It comes to be around 12.5k miles flown with overnight layovers which are under 24 hours in ICN and NRT with the MQM being around 15k. Would that be a valid booking?
Jan 20, 2018, 7:31 pm
#5373
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,195
You cannot, however, connect through HND on part of your one way trip and later in the same trip connect through NRT.
Jan 21, 2018, 12:23 am
#5374
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: CVG, originally LAX/SNA
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum, Hilton Honors Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 77
Jan 21, 2018, 2:33 am
#5375
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1
Does anyone know the max segments allowed nowadays?
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Jan 21, 2018, 11:21 am
#5376
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: Marriott LT Gold, IHG Club, Hertz Gold, Aeroplan, Avios, SkyMiles, Thrifty, AMEX
Posts: 985
Does anyone know the max segments allowed nowadays?
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Jan 21, 2018, 3:25 pm
#5377
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
Does anyone know the max segments allowed nowadays?
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Just curious if I am able to book a mini-rtw something like yyz-nrt(stop)-sin(destination)-ist(stop) and then visit 15 or so cities in europe on the way back each with less than 24 hour layover? As long as it fits under mpm of course
Thanks
Jan 21, 2018, 6:47 pm
#5378
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Both are often true.
Example #1
If I do a dummy search for HKG-YYZ in November, one-way Business, the Aeroplan website gives me five TPAC options, all but one of which put the long leg on AC metal.
United shows me all of these flights, plus about half a dozen routings through Europe on Swiss or LOT, plus HKG-ADD-YYZ on Ethiopian,
In this case, it isn't necessarily that what UA is offering is better - most of their added options are considerably longer in the air - simply that they're showing me a lot more options than AP.
Example #2 gets weird.
Let's search HKG-ZRH on the same date, Nov 12.
Aeroplan shows 4 options in Business, all of which are HKG-VIE-ZRH with the long leg on Austrian, and YQ of $100-150.
United offers all of these, plus a direct HKG-ZRH on Swiss that Aeroplan doesn't show because it leaves 15 minutes after midnight. If I search the next day, it shows up fine, but Aeroplan's computers aren't smart enough to include this in search results for Nov 12. So, if it doesn't occur to me to search a different date than the one I actually want, using Aeroplan costs me 2-3 hours for an unnecessary routing, plus about $100 in unnecessary fees.
United also shows me options for HKG-PEK-ZRH on Air China, HKG-IST-ZRH on Turkish, and HKG-DEL-ZRH on Air India and Swiss. Again, these aren't necessarily better options, but United shows them to me and Aeroplan doesn't.
Example #1
If I do a dummy search for HKG-YYZ in November, one-way Business, the Aeroplan website gives me five TPAC options, all but one of which put the long leg on AC metal.
United shows me all of these flights, plus about half a dozen routings through Europe on Swiss or LOT, plus HKG-ADD-YYZ on Ethiopian,
In this case, it isn't necessarily that what UA is offering is better - most of their added options are considerably longer in the air - simply that they're showing me a lot more options than AP.
Example #2 gets weird.
Let's search HKG-ZRH on the same date, Nov 12.
Aeroplan shows 4 options in Business, all of which are HKG-VIE-ZRH with the long leg on Austrian, and YQ of $100-150.
United offers all of these, plus a direct HKG-ZRH on Swiss that Aeroplan doesn't show because it leaves 15 minutes after midnight. If I search the next day, it shows up fine, but Aeroplan's computers aren't smart enough to include this in search results for Nov 12. So, if it doesn't occur to me to search a different date than the one I actually want, using Aeroplan costs me 2-3 hours for an unnecessary routing, plus about $100 in unnecessary fees.
United also shows me options for HKG-PEK-ZRH on Air China, HKG-IST-ZRH on Turkish, and HKG-DEL-ZRH on Air India and Swiss. Again, these aren't necessarily better options, but United shows them to me and Aeroplan doesn't.
Jan 21, 2018, 7:07 pm
#5379
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
The Aeroplan website is designed to prefer AC options, because of the scamcharges involved (even tho HKG is scamcharge free), and also will not show you all options if there are AC options.
It will pass up HKG IST YUL in favour of HKG YYZ YUL, even if only YYZ-YUL is in J and the longhaul in Y.
Jan 21, 2018, 7:25 pm
#5380
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,728
So, if a flight is visible in the United website, but not the Aeroplan website, you'll have to call in to book it.
Jan 24, 2018, 8:51 am
#5381
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 10
would this be possible on 1 rewards flight
YYZ-CNX stop
BKK-CGK Open Jaw
DPS- ICN stop
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-CNX stop
BKK-CGK Open Jaw
DPS- ICN stop
ICN-YYZ
Last edited by MikeyT; Jan 24, 2018 at 8:53 am Reason: wrong city
Jan 24, 2018, 9:00 am
#5383
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
OP: Just do YYZ-BKK-DPS/CGK-ICN-YYZ and book a paid BKK-CNX return ticket.
Edit again. 2 stopovers and an openjaw also won't be possible.
Last edited by ChrisA330; Jan 24, 2018 at 9:11 am
Jan 25, 2018, 11:18 am
#5384
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: AP, AM
Posts: 132
In this thread I posted by MiniwRTW (technically not RTW but still awesome): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29338431-post561.html
Curiously though even as Perth was my final destination from Ottawa, I wasn't charged 90K, I was charged 100K because part of the trip transversed Africa.
Has anyone else ever heard of this?
Curiously though even as Perth was my final destination from Ottawa, I wasn't charged 90K, I was charged 100K because part of the trip transversed Africa.
Has anyone else ever heard of this?
Jan 25, 2018, 11:47 am
#5385
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
In this thread I posted by MiniwRTW (technically not RTW but still awesome): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29338431-post561.html
Curiously though even as Perth was my final destination from Ottawa, I wasn't charged 90K, I was charged 100K because part of the trip transversed Africa.
Has anyone else ever heard of this?
Curiously though even as Perth was my final destination from Ottawa, I wasn't charged 90K, I was charged 100K because part of the trip transversed Africa.
Has anyone else ever heard of this?
From the T&Cs:
5.1. If any allowable stopover point is in a different region than the flight reward destination, the higher reward mileage level will apply.