Mini RTW Questions
#5326
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
Swiss sometimes plays around with married segments, which is what you're experiencing.
The only way you can just get off the plane at Zurich is if it's a one-way ticket ORD-ZRH-GVA. Otherwise the remainder of your ticket gets cancelled if you no-show for any segment.
The only way you can just get off the plane at Zurich is if it's a one-way ticket ORD-ZRH-GVA. Otherwise the remainder of your ticket gets cancelled if you no-show for any segment.
#5328
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 56
Is it then considered highly risky to take connecting flights with a small window to switch planes? If i have 40 minutes to catch my next flight and my first plane takes off an hour late, is my entire mini rtw itinerary then dead in the water?
#5329
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
Since you're booked on one ticket, the airline will protect you in case of a misconnect and you'll be rebooked on the next flight.
#5330
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 6
Can someone help me with this RTW?
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
#5331
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: ,BW Rewards, Skymiles, Aeroplan, SPG, IHG, Marriott, Club Carlson, Alaska Airlines
Posts: 256
#5332
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
Can someone help me with this RTW?
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
I’m not sure this is doable as you’d need to transit AKL twice which isn’t allowed unless the stops are on either side of the destination.
FYI: MPM for YOW-SYD is 15480. Each routing to/from SYD cannot exceed that.
Last edited by ChrisA330; Jan 10, 2018 at 6:54 pm
#5333
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,085
Can someone help me with this RTW?
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
MAY - 10th, Return June 3/4 (Dates are flexible. Maximum 16-17 business days. But must be in PPT during the week of 20-25th).
Start: YOW
Stop: SYD
Destination: PPT via AKL (dont think there is any other way)
Stop: KIX/HK (will do an open jaw to get to HK or KIX
Return: YOW
Got off the phone with agent and said my MPM is way over...been trying to fix it for hours and can't seem to.
All in J except for inter canada
YOW-YUL (AC. Y)
ZRH-IST
DXB-BKK
BKK-SYD (STOP)
SYD-AKL
AKL-PPT (STOP)
PPT-AKL
AKL-SYD
SYD-BKK
BKK-HKG (2 DAYS)
HKG-KIX (STOP)
KIX-ICN
ICN-YYZ
YYZ-YOW
Both are around 18,000MPM. The main ones I need to go to are; SYD, PPT, HKG and KIX. Rest can be play around with. There's no direct flights at all right now with AKL-BKK, nor SIN -SYD/AKL. Agent said the first part should be okay but second part isn't working...and I can't seem to find a shorter routes/segments to include HKG/KIX in there. Any work arounds? Please HELP
This whole question is moot unless you can get AKL-PPT award space, which I don't think is available. It's extremely difficult to get award space on that route, you'd need to be looking a year in advance.
I suggest booking YOW-SYD on AP award, and a cash ticket from SYD-PPT.
#5334
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 6
This whole question is moot unless you can get AKL-PPT award space, which I don't think is available. It's extremely difficult to get award space on that route, you'd need to be looking a year in advance.
I suggest booking YOW-SYD on AP award, and a cash ticket from SYD-PPT.
I suggest booking YOW-SYD on AP award, and a cash ticket from SYD-PPT.
Right now, it seems like my only option is YOW-SYD on AP then SYD-PPT on AP separately (30k RT) +200in taxes but still cheaper than if I were to get a cash ticket (800+)
I was thinking of ANA mileage to see if cheaper, it will if i can find YOW-X-AKL-PPT (as it only allows 2 transfers at most). THen return I need to use AP or AA to get PPT-SYD, and do SYD-BKK-KIX open jaw HKG-PEK-YUL- (dont even know if this is doable)
#5335
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: AC 100K, Alaska MVP Gold 75K, Marriott/SPG (Bonvoy?) Gold Elite/HHonors Gold
Posts: 337
If anyone is able to assist, looking to get something booked using Aeroplan, but want to do:
YVR - FCO, September 13, return on September 30.
Was looking at YVR - ORD - FCO, or YVR - ORD - IST - FCO to avoid the YQ fees, but can't seem to get this generated online - i tried multi-city, etc.
I feel dumb asking, cause it's been a while for myself, but is this something you have to call in and request?
Thanks?
YVR - FCO, September 13, return on September 30.
Was looking at YVR - ORD - FCO, or YVR - ORD - IST - FCO to avoid the YQ fees, but can't seem to get this generated online - i tried multi-city, etc.
I feel dumb asking, cause it's been a while for myself, but is this something you have to call in and request?
Thanks?
#5336
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YHZ
Programs: HH Gold, MR Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 87
If anyone is able to assist, looking to get something booked using Aeroplan, but want to do:
YVR - FCO, September 13, return on September 30.
Was looking at YVR - ORD - FCO, or YVR - ORD - IST - FCO to avoid the YQ fees, but can't seem to get this generated online - i tried multi-city, etc.
I feel dumb asking, cause it's been a while for myself, but is this something you have to call in and request?
Thanks?
YVR - FCO, September 13, return on September 30.
Was looking at YVR - ORD - FCO, or YVR - ORD - IST - FCO to avoid the YQ fees, but can't seem to get this generated online - i tried multi-city, etc.
I feel dumb asking, cause it's been a while for myself, but is this something you have to call in and request?
Thanks?
#5337
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
I see availability on ET showing up as normal...
#5338
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC A
Posts: 30
Anyone know if Swiss opens up I/J award space for North America to Zurich in the weeks or month leading up to departure? Looking at options for two award tickets next fall, right now only one J seat is available, and I can book the second in Y. Just wondering what the chances are of Swiss releasing more space and I can call in to change the Y to J. Thanks.
#5339
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,085
I was able to find AKL-PPT though RT on AP. Its economy but whatyever better than nothing.
Right now, it seems like my only option is YOW-SYD on AP then SYD-PPT on AP separately (30k RT) +200in taxes but still cheaper than if I were to get a cash ticket (800+)
I was thinking of ANA mileage to see if cheaper, it will if i can find YOW-X-AKL-PPT (as it only allows 2 transfers at most). THen return I need to use AP or AA to get PPT-SYD, and do SYD-BKK-KIX open jaw HKG-PEK-YUL- (dont even know if this is doable)
Right now, it seems like my only option is YOW-SYD on AP then SYD-PPT on AP separately (30k RT) +200in taxes but still cheaper than if I were to get a cash ticket (800+)
I was thinking of ANA mileage to see if cheaper, it will if i can find YOW-X-AKL-PPT (as it only allows 2 transfers at most). THen return I need to use AP or AA to get PPT-SYD, and do SYD-BKK-KIX open jaw HKG-PEK-YUL- (dont even know if this is doable)
I'm not familiar with ANA rules, but if they only allow 2 transfer, then your options are going to be limited. I don't think there are direct flights between YOW-SFO/LAX/IAH, so only option left is YOW-YVR-AKL-PPT.
Getting YVR-AKL on NZ will be pretty difficult as well.
SYD-BKK-KIX <open-jaw> HKG-PEK-YUL won't work since you're on an one-way AP award, which does not allow stopovers or open-jaws. You'll have to book those as 2 separate awards.
#5340
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Questions on some basics as I have never booked an award with Aeroplan miles but that would change. I wish there is a Wiki for this thread but since there is none, I hope those of you who are experts can help answer these probably very basic questions to you.
1) Can I use the Great Circle Mapper to simulate the MPM calculation? Does Aeroplan give any allowance on top of the actual MPM like some other airlines would?
2) Is it possible to book a EU-Asia-US trip with the RTW type of ticketing, i.e. it can travel in one direction instead of returning to the same continent where one departs?
3) How many stops one can have? Is it the same 2 stopovers and 1 OJ as booking a normal R/T ticket?
4) To avoid YQ, one needs to stick with SK, LX, TK, BR, that I know. How about TG and NH?
Thank you for taking the time to educate a newbie to Aeroplan award booking.
1) Can I use the Great Circle Mapper to simulate the MPM calculation? Does Aeroplan give any allowance on top of the actual MPM like some other airlines would?
2) Is it possible to book a EU-Asia-US trip with the RTW type of ticketing, i.e. it can travel in one direction instead of returning to the same continent where one departs?
3) How many stops one can have? Is it the same 2 stopovers and 1 OJ as booking a normal R/T ticket?
4) To avoid YQ, one needs to stick with SK, LX, TK, BR, that I know. How about TG and NH?
Thank you for taking the time to educate a newbie to Aeroplan award booking.