Mini RTW Questions
#7186
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If you booked it in September, it was under the new rules. 2 stopovers ended Sep 1.
#7187
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Nope, those are your only options. Either you depart this year or you cancel.
The only thing that MIGHT be a compromise is you fly this September:
DEP-STOP1
Then do "stopover" until February 2021 to resume your trip and nest in a separately booked STOP1-DEP round-trip.
That works if you have any time and eagerness for a (shorter) vacation this year and go to a similar area on your first stopover on the RTW. this works because while you have to depart within 1year of booking, you THEN have another extra year to complete travel. Makes sense?
EDIT: An example with made-up dates and cities:
RTW Segment 1: YYZ-ATH, stop (September 2020)
Cash: ATH-YYZ (September 2020)
Cash: YYZ-ZRH (February 2021) - ATH (March 2021)
RTW Segment 2: ATH-MEL (March 2021)
RTW Segment 3: MEL-TYO (April 2021)
RTW Segment 4: TYO-YYZ (June 2021)
The only thing that MIGHT be a compromise is you fly this September:
DEP-STOP1
Then do "stopover" until February 2021 to resume your trip and nest in a separately booked STOP1-DEP round-trip.
That works if you have any time and eagerness for a (shorter) vacation this year and go to a similar area on your first stopover on the RTW. this works because while you have to depart within 1year of booking, you THEN have another extra year to complete travel. Makes sense?
EDIT: An example with made-up dates and cities:
RTW Segment 1: YYZ-ATH, stop (September 2020)
Cash: ATH-YYZ (September 2020)
Cash: YYZ-ZRH (February 2021) - ATH (March 2021)
RTW Segment 2: ATH-MEL (March 2021)
RTW Segment 3: MEL-TYO (April 2021)
RTW Segment 4: TYO-YYZ (June 2021)
Good catch. It was booked in August. The Aeroplan agent on the phone mentioned that it was ticketed Sept. 23 so I had that date in mind. I'm not sure of the reason for the discrepancy.
#7188
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
I have a ticket booked from mid June (10th or so) last year, and due to nCoV we're looking to postpone our trip from March to June. In the past, I've been told travel must complete by date of original ticketing +365 days.
Or do I just need to commence travel by then? Looking at June 3 to 23, which would be beyond the one year mark.
Or do I just need to commence travel by then? Looking at June 3 to 23, which would be beyond the one year mark.
#7189
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I have a ticket booked from mid June (10th or so) last year, and due to nCoV we're looking to postpone our trip from March to June. In the past, I've been told travel must complete by date of original ticketing +365 days.
Or do I just need to commence travel by then? Looking at June 3 to 23, which would be beyond the one year mark.
Or do I just need to commence travel by then? Looking at June 3 to 23, which would be beyond the one year mark.
#7190
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: toronto
Posts: 914
I am trying to book a mini-miniRTW trip for December/January, and need some wise advice from the group.
Looking to do the following in J for 2 people:
YYZ-HND
HND-HNL
HNL-YYZ
Once I get to HNL, I'll book my own shuttles to other islands.
I am able to find J seats for 2 for the YYZ-HND in December, and the HNL-YYZ in January. However, for the HND-HNL, all I am seeing on the AE site is 1 flight with Asiana, HND-ICN in J then ICN-HNL in Y.
Since I am a S100K, should I just go ahead and book this, and keep checking to see if more options open up between HND-HNL, then use my free change to make the switch?
Or wait it out? or try other routings?
Looking to do the following in J for 2 people:
YYZ-HND
HND-HNL
HNL-YYZ
Once I get to HNL, I'll book my own shuttles to other islands.
I am able to find J seats for 2 for the YYZ-HND in December, and the HNL-YYZ in January. However, for the HND-HNL, all I am seeing on the AE site is 1 flight with Asiana, HND-ICN in J then ICN-HNL in Y.
Since I am a S100K, should I just go ahead and book this, and keep checking to see if more options open up between HND-HNL, then use my free change to make the switch?
Or wait it out? or try other routings?
#7191
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I am trying to book a mini-miniRTW trip for December/January, and need some wise advice from the group.
Looking to do the following in J for 2 people:
YYZ-HND
HND-HNL
HNL-YYZ
Once I get to HNL, I'll book my own shuttles to other islands.
I am able to find J seats for 2 for the YYZ-HND in December, and the HNL-YYZ in January. However, for the HND-HNL, all I am seeing on the AE site is 1 flight with Asiana, HND-ICN in J then ICN-HNL in Y.
Since I am a S100K, should I just go ahead and book this, and keep checking to see if more options open up between HND-HNL, then use my free change to make the switch?
Or wait it out? or try other routings?
Looking to do the following in J for 2 people:
YYZ-HND
HND-HNL
HNL-YYZ
Once I get to HNL, I'll book my own shuttles to other islands.
I am able to find J seats for 2 for the YYZ-HND in December, and the HNL-YYZ in January. However, for the HND-HNL, all I am seeing on the AE site is 1 flight with Asiana, HND-ICN in J then ICN-HNL in Y.
Since I am a S100K, should I just go ahead and book this, and keep checking to see if more options open up between HND-HNL, then use my free change to make the switch?
Or wait it out? or try other routings?
#7192
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I think this has already been mentioned. But it seems that any changes to pre-devaluation 2 stopover trips cause the new system to choke, when it comes to YQ/tax recalc.
And then the change fee credit card entering system crashed too.
I think I was owed a free change after a 4 hour hold anyway
And then the change fee credit card entering system crashed too.
I think I was owed a free change after a 4 hour hold anyway
#7193
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
So does that mean no YQ and no change fees? Been waiting for a March free change or corona virus travel waiver for Hong Kong/south South African Airways bankruptcy
#7194
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Toronto, ON
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Multicity >2 stops
Anyone had luck with agents approving more than 2 stops at multicity trip these days or post amadeus?
i heard the new ac program will return the multiple stops like before.
i heard the new ac program will return the multiple stops like before.
#7195
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The change fee was attempted to be collected, but she'd get a "techincal error" everytime I'd enter my card.... so .. that was that.
#7196
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I changed LX to LO, so there would have been YQ due. The agent tried with her help desk to recalculate, but they failed, and just pushed it through ....
The change fee was attempted to be collected, but she'd get a "techincal error" everytime I'd enter my card.... so .. that was that.
The change fee was attempted to be collected, but she'd get a "techincal error" everytime I'd enter my card.... so .. that was that.
-shrugs-
#7197
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When this happened to me (YQ recalc failed) the agent said it'll all be alright and then it didn't ticket a couple days later. Had to call in again and then a SECOND agent said it was because YQ wasn't correctly re-calculated so I had to pay first - despite what the first agent said.
-shrugs-
-shrugs-
#7198
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So the system clearly doesn't care.
#7199
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Or, is it better to save the time to realize if the agent can make it work or otherwise, by saying, I need to put together 2 stops and a destination trip? This way, i can always HUCA when the agent answers with a straight-no.
#7200
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How did he / she approach the agent? Do i have more luck just saying that i would like to put together an itinerary such as this and this and this (with 2 stops and destination)?
Or, is it better to save the time to realize if the agent can make it work or otherwise, by saying, I need to put together 2 stops and a destination trip? This way, i can always HUCA when the agent answers with a straight-no.
Or, is it better to save the time to realize if the agent can make it work or otherwise, by saying, I need to put together 2 stops and a destination trip? This way, i can always HUCA when the agent answers with a straight-no.
I might be able to replicate it, but if it works the way I think, it's a very narrow set of circumstances that the system trips over, and is unlikely to be useful in a mini rtw.