Aegean has Lost it With Business Class Fares
Apr 20, 20, 11:42 am
#46
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I don't understand why you keep returning to this topic. If you like Lufthansa's price, then fly with Lufthansa.
It may have escaped your attention, but most airlines are currently serving the same "meals" in business class that are offered in economy class. Referring to meals, etc, as justification for the price of business class - in your context, that this should lead to a reduction in price - is not likely to ever be borne out in reality.
On the basis of everything you've written in this thread, you should move all your business over to Lufthansa, and never again darken the door of Aegean.
It may have escaped your attention, but most airlines are currently serving the same "meals" in business class that are offered in economy class. Referring to meals, etc, as justification for the price of business class - in your context, that this should lead to a reduction in price - is not likely to ever be borne out in reality.
On the basis of everything you've written in this thread, you should move all your business over to Lufthansa, and never again darken the door of Aegean.
Last edited by NWIFlyer; Apr 21, 20 at 2:58 am Reason: To comply with rule 12
Apr 20, 20, 11:54 am
#47
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A better strategy is to become an infrequent flyer; in the current circumstances, there should only be a tiny minority of people who genuinely have an essential need to travel frequently (and the vast majority of those are, I hope, the people required to operate those flights!)
Apr 20, 20, 12:23 pm
#48
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It is perhaps true that they think they can make more money this way. On the many occasions I have flown ATH-TXL and vice-versa, there have most often been four rows for business class, and as few as two seats out of 16 have been occupied. In this case, 2+0= bad business.
Apr 20, 20, 3:43 pm
#49
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Aegean still do not get it with the pricing of business class fares. Even the dimmest employee in their revenue management section must surely understand that, in the early period after flight lockdown ends, it will be necessary to fly with middle-seat blocking in economy class. Business service will also likely be curtailed, with meals pre-loaded using single packaged trays (similar to kosher meals). As a result, the price differential between economy and business class will clearly need to be reduced to attract customers, at least up to late summer this year. LH Group understand this well but of course Aegean are again behind the curve. Yesterday, I tried to book a return business class fare from LCA to BER for May 29th - June 4th (the earliest dates that I believe flights will operate). Aegean demanded a whopping €946 while Lufthansa wanted only €378! Since at present, I am only willing to sit in seat 1A or 1F of intra-European flights (wearing a mask and gloves), the Lufthansa fare makes it economically viable to do this. I would not give Aegean a cent of taxpayer's bailout money unless they first learn how to take better advantage of market opportunities to earn their own money!
This is a very common thing among airline fares. Lots of prices do not make sense to someone but if you see the wide picture you will see that there are many reasons. I assume Aegean is happy with the prices they offer for J and the percentage of people buying it. I personally do not.
On the other hand i am not expecting for any airline to lower their fares and for sure i do not think that any airline has lost it. Can i give you some more examples?
Avianca fares from Bogota to countries around south america are usually 400 pounds for return. Cheapest one and sometimes we are talking for a 1:30 flight. By the way i am talking for economy class. Competition for these routes is minimal if so.
BA flights to Asia are usually stupidly expensive but they offer a direct service. I flew to Singapore with Qatar from Oslo in J for 1.200 all together including the London to Oslo flight while for the same month BA wanted 1.400 only for premium economy!
I can give you thousands of examples like that. My suggestion is vote with your wallet. You do not like the price. Do not pay it.
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Apr 21, 20, 3:25 am
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What was the price for the same journey with QR from LON ? and same question for BA from OSL ???
also the LON-SIN is a direct flight between two metropolitan areas with some of the highest "GDPs" in the world , so don't expect reasonable fares where they can generate lot of money , while QR has "nothing to loose" by offering lower prices than "regional competitors"
Let's start with pricing....This is a very common thing among airline fares. Lots of prices do not make sense to someone but if you see the wide picture you will see that there are many reasons. ..I can give you thousands of examples like that. My suggestion is vote with your wallet. You do not like the price. Do not pay it.
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Apr 21, 20, 7:53 am
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Only the fares disappoint me, not the service. Every time that I book a ticket, I compare the LH-group and Aegean fares for the dates I want to travel (which are always some time in the future). Having done this perhaps 100 times, I have yet to find even once a lower A3 business fare on the route LCA to TXL: Aegean are simply uncompetitive if you want to fly business. With economy, the situation is different and A3 often has very competitive fares during the November to March period.
Personally I'm happy to pay more for A3 or TK when going to Cyprus just to avoid Lufthansa or Austrian.
Apr 21, 20, 6:57 pm
#52
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Ok , but you compare two different markets and two different cases .
What was the price for the same journey with QR from LON ? and same question for BA from OSL ???
also the LON-SIN is a direct flight between two metropolitan areas with some of the highest "GDPs" in the world , so don't expect reasonable fares where they can generate lot of money , while QR has "nothing to loose" by offering lower prices than "regional competitors"
What was the price for the same journey with QR from LON ? and same question for BA from OSL ???
also the LON-SIN is a direct flight between two metropolitan areas with some of the highest "GDPs" in the world , so don't expect reasonable fares where they can generate lot of money , while QR has "nothing to loose" by offering lower prices than "regional competitors"
Apr 24, 20, 7:02 am
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Folks, we have recently been going round in circles to no benefit for the thread which - all told - has not been this forum’s finest hour.
Time for the padlock.
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Time for the padlock.
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Last edited by NWIFlyer; Apr 24, 20 at 11:54 am
