Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Aegean Airlines | Miles+Bonus
Reload this Page >

Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: sokolov
No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
Print Wikipost

Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 23, 2018, 7:32 am
  #1486  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Originally Posted by janusjiang
Seems like the award availability shown on A3 is fewer than those shown on UA and NH. For instance, MEL-BKK in J is available on fewer days compared to the one shown in UA and NH. Even PER-JNB on SA is not showing either but they do show some other routes operated by SA. More strangely, it showed MEL-PNH via BKK on the day I searched, but when I tried BKK-PNH directly, then no availability is shown. Not sure if I call them directly, they'll have access to more availability shown on their website i.e. the same availability as UA and NH?
You can only dream on for an improvement in the near future. The A3 engine seems not as powerful as NH/UA/AC/SQ/LH engines. So, it sort of limits its results.
If you need availability for a one-transit itinerary, better to call in and feed them segment by segment, the old fashioned way.
Tokyoite is offline  
Old Jan 23, 2018, 9:04 am
  #1487  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,471
Originally Posted by Tokyoite
The YQ must be painful. A whole 700 euros!
It's not YQ but the UK departure tax which makes it so expensive. I believe it's GBP 156, or around EUR 178 per person, or EUR 356 in total. So, half of it is the UK tax.
RedChili is offline  
Old Jan 24, 2018, 5:59 am
  #1488  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: France
Programs: A3 *G; AC
Posts: 409
Booked online (January 23, 2018) through the Aegean Tool. CDG to YYZ to YVR on November 20, 2018. Airline is Air Canada with flights AC881 and AC121. Two passengers in Business using 45k miles each (total 90k). Taxes and Fees were €132.86 each (€265.72 total). For the return, booked on same date entirely online through the Aegean site. YVR to YYZ to CDG on December 6, 2018. Air Canada flights AC034 and AC880. In Business, 2 people for 45k each (90k) and taxes and fees were €61.93 each (€123.86 for both). Locators didn't work on AC site. Called Aegean to get the AC locators. Was told that they were the AC locators. Called AC, tried to use Aegean locators, no go, so used the ticket numbers and was given the proper AC locators. The AC agent booked the seats that we wanted. All our seats are lie flat pods. All is good.
hastuk is offline  
Old Jan 24, 2018, 7:26 am
  #1489  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 64
Originally Posted by gabes80
So with a change of dates, ZRH-BKK-MEL on TG now booked, YQ of €49.22 with €20 fee.
ZRH-BKK-MEL in business for around 70 € surcharge, that seriously has got to be the best point value I have seen in this whole thread by some margin - were both legs really business? When I search ZRH-MEL with different routings on the new award page I see nothing under around 250 euro

I am almost getting a bit desparate with this new tool - before, I have always assumed that the availability shown on united.com (business saver award) corresponds roughly to the M&B availability, but it seems much worse here I find almost only Air China whereas united.com lists Thai and Asiana as well.

By far the best I have found is WAW-SIN-MEL with LOT+Singapore for around 81 euro pp oneway surcharge. All other combinations cost at least twice that, more often 4-5 times that.

Can I assume that there is more availability when calling M&B as compared to using the online search tool? I desperately need a good strategy for this once-in a lifetime use of points:
Going Europe-Australia beginning of January 2019, preferrably to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane - I have already understood that Melbourne has by far the best availability in general of these destinations.
The departure airport in Europe should preferrably be easily reachable from Berlin.
Noobflyer59 is offline  
Old Jan 24, 2018, 9:35 am
  #1490  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 167
What about paying the Asia > Australia part ?

You can get Flatbeds for cheap.

Noobflyer59 likes this.
LacMajeur is offline  
Old Jan 24, 2018, 11:24 am
  #1491  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: A3 Gold, LH SEN, DL PM
Posts: 69
I try to book for two people PEK SGN via SIN or TYO (SIA or ANA) in C . But there is no award space for the begining of november. Should i wait so that more space opens or i'm too late ?
1nsane is offline  
Old Jan 25, 2018, 12:08 pm
  #1492  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 64
Thanks a lot, LacMajeur!
Yes, the Perth routes from KL and Singapore seem very competetive, but we have thought of using them to go home on paid tickets (we have about 175k miles now which would buy us at least a oneway Europe-Melbourne/Sydney in business, maybe even first with Thai if we can make it to 200k within the next months). Then going over to the west coast (Perth), spending a week there and flying home via Singapore on paid tickets.
Very competitive price you list I must say, although I dislike thie flight times for obvious reasons
LacMajeur likes this.
Noobflyer59 is offline  
Old Jan 25, 2018, 8:37 pm
  #1493  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: LHR
Programs: VA Gold, QF Gold, Accor Platinum
Posts: 119
Using the online M&B tool, I don’t seem to get any visibility of UA flights in North, Central or South America.

is the only option to use ANA tool and call up? Anyone else have this issue?
kniesel is offline  
Old Jan 25, 2018, 10:37 pm
  #1494  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Originally Posted by 1nsane
I try to book for two people PEK SGN via SIN or TYO (SIA or ANA) in C . But there is no award space for the begining of november. Should i wait so that more space opens or i'm too late ?
A quick search yielded this, and the results were replicated on the Aegean site.
SQ805/186 is available pretty much all days in business class. What problems are you facing?
Can you give a specific date you are looking at?

[KVS Tool 8.7.7/Diamond - Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA-Auto]
Code:
PEK Beijing Capital Intl CN [ZBAA]
SGN Ho Chi Minh City/Saigon Tan Son Nhat Intl VN [VVTS]
THU 01 Nov 2018 1 Seat

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
CA 903 PEK 20:20 SGN 01:00 +1 738 0 CS+ YS+
CA 125 PEK 13:45 ICN 16:50 321 0 CS+ YS+
-> OZ 735 ICN 19:10 SGN 22:40 77W 0 CS+ YS+
OZ 334 PEK 15:30 ICN 18:25 333 0 CS+ YS+
-> OZ 731 ICN 07:35 +1 SGN 11:05 +1 321 0 CS+ YS+
SQ 805 PEK 08:45 SIN 15:20 772 0 CS+ YS+
-> SQ 186 SIN 17:35 SGN 18:45 333 0 CS+ YS+

Last edited by Tokyoite; Jan 25, 2018 at 10:46 pm
Tokyoite is offline  
Old Jan 25, 2018, 11:19 pm
  #1495  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
@1nsane,
i did some more digging, and ANA via Tokyo NRT is also readily available. Do a search again and see if you get your flights.
[KVS Tool 8.7.7/Diamond - Awards/NH-StarAlliance/JP]
Code:
PEK  Beijing Capital Intl CN [ZBAA]
SGN  Ho Chi Minh City/Saigon Tan Son Nhat Intl VN [VVTS]
FRI  02 Nov 2018   1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
NH         964     PEK   08:25     HND   12:40     788      CS+  YS+
 -> NH     833     NRT   19:05     SGN   00:05 +1  788
NH         956     PEK   10:25     NRT   15:00     763      CS+  YS+
 -> NH     833     NRT   19:05     SGN   00:05 +1  788
Tokyoite is offline  
Old Jan 26, 2018, 6:46 am
  #1496  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: A3 Gold, LH SEN, DL PM
Posts: 69
The problem was i tried to find flights for 3 people in C. Now i booked sth for 2. But the availabilty is not too nice so to say. Especially for more than 1 pax.
1nsane is offline  
Old Jan 26, 2018, 7:24 am
  #1497  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
two people, or three people? two is easy, three is a whole other issue where luck factors in.
.....but anyway, good luck with your search.
And next time, please be clear with the issue you face!
Tokyoite is offline  
Old Jan 26, 2018, 7:32 am
  #1498  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: A3 Gold, LH SEN, DL PM
Posts: 69
Originally Posted by Tokyoite
two people, or three people? two is easy, three is a whole other issue where luck factors in.
.....but anyway, good luck with your search.
And next time, please be clear with the issue you face!
yes sorry. I booked PEK NRT SGN for 2 people now on NH. This was my 1st award flight booking.

Last edited by 1nsane; Jan 26, 2018 at 7:39 am
1nsane is offline  
Old Jan 27, 2018, 12:15 am
  #1499  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: Miles & Bonus (A3), Miles & More (LH)
Posts: 225
Booked the following flights for August 2018:

SUF (Lamezia Terme) - MUC (Munich)
MUC (Munich) - ATH (Athens)

Both legs on LH (Lufthansa) and in business class.

25,000 Miles & Bonus of A3 + EUR 122 in taxes + EUR 20 A3 call centre fee (I found the availability of award seats through ExpertFlyer, however the website of A3 showed no availability. The agent at A3's call centre however managed to find the desired seats for me).

Question:
Is there a difference in the amount of taxes one has to pay if you choose to book the same award seats by using LH's Miles & More ? I looked up in the Miles & More site and saw that the same flights required 25,000 miles but taxes of only EUR 73.
Alexandros Bravos is offline  
Old Jan 27, 2018, 7:20 am
  #1500  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,566
Ita matrix shows a total of 123.50 € for taxes for LH in C.
KLouis is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.