2018 Status Points, how's it going?
Mar 2, 2018, 10:08 pm
#19
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: OOL
Programs: VA Plat, QF LTS, UA MM, Hilton Diamond, Rydges Black, ,Le-Club Gold
Posts: 3,659
While I think we all took advantage of the fact rewards points use to count for status I think the change has been a good decision as there were too many top level elites for the amount of money being spent. The only disappointing thing is no additional benefit has been added with the reduction in plat or gold members..
Good news all round, one less Plat for you all to compete with and better stays for me as I focus on Hilton Diamond. Less revenue for Accor, too bad.
Mar 3, 2018, 9:14 am
#20
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
yes!
one of the good thing about le club accor is they also value the amount of spending you made with status points. not just value the number of stays/ nights
it might encourage people to try the higher end offerings instead of try book cheapest room as much as possible
personally sometimes i do wonder whether hotel make more profit from 60 nights stay at $20 /night ibis or 18 nights stay at $500 sofitel suite
one of the good thing about le club accor is they also value the amount of spending you made with status points. not just value the number of stays/ nights
it might encourage people to try the higher end offerings instead of try book cheapest room as much as possible
personally sometimes i do wonder whether hotel make more profit from 60 nights stay at $20 /night ibis or 18 nights stay at $500 sofitel suite
Mar 3, 2018, 11:54 pm
#21
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Zero stays, zero points. Would have been halfway to the old Plat target by now, but was dropped to Gold thanks to this change after many years as Plat, .
Good news all round, one less Plat for you all to compete with and better stays for me as I focus on Hilton Diamond. Less revenue for Accor, too bad.
Good news all round, one less Plat for you all to compete with and better stays for me as I focus on Hilton Diamond. Less revenue for Accor, too bad.
Mar 4, 2018, 2:11 pm
#23
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,179
If you decided that Accor plat was not possible after these changes then Accor's reasoning was you were not a high value customer. At the end of the day Accor wont care on individual basis if people decide to dump the program if it gets harder to qualify. You could have had people who stayed 1-2 nights per year in 2014 who decided to say.. "I will take my hard earned cash elsewhere" because Accor was not going to continue giving complimentary plat memberships. Accor realised they would lose some customers when they put the platinum status points system. At the same time some members will spend more and some people will join the program if they see the plat membership being more exclusive. Hopefully with time Accor will add 1 or 2 additional benefits and if hotels notice less plat members they will treat the remaining plat members with more attention.
So the question is whether it is worth Platinum for the $ spend needed to get there and I decided it was better to go with SPG mainly for guaranteed 4 pm check out, best available room at check in, better points vs air miles ratio and an excellent Best Rate Guarantee Programme. Oh and free breakfast. Even Marriott Gold gives free breakfast / lounge access!
If Accor introduced serious changes then who knows!
Mar 4, 2018, 4:03 pm
#24
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: Accor Platinum, Eurobonus Gold, Flying Blue Gold
Posts: 72
My work has for once brought me to a location with absolutely zero Accor hotels, so after two years as Platinum (with 100+ stays/year) I'm still at zero nights/points with Accor in 2018. I have been staying at a Radisson for a bit this year instead, and while it's not bad I gotta say I miss my Sofitels/Novotels...
Mar 4, 2018, 11:05 pm
#25
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Wishful thinking indeed! You may be right to a certain extent but the main problem with Platinum is that if you’re not staying in a hotel with a lounge (I.e over 95% of their hotels), there is very little benefit. The upgrades need to be requested (and begged for) and the programme rules dictate one category upgrade - MGallery Baraquda Pattaya had a suite available but because it was the “grande suite” (an additional 5sqm) they would rather it remain empty than give it to a Plat. A manager even gave some rubbish about auditing if they didn’t stick to the one level upgrade rule. It’s all a bit mean and inflexible. I guess the problem is inconsistency across hotels: even though Vie Bangkok was completely full they still upgraded me.
So the question is whether it is worth Platinum for the $ spend needed to get there and I decided it was better to go with SPG mainly for guaranteed 4 pm check out, best available room at check in, better points vs air miles ratio and an excellent Best Rate Guarantee Programme. Oh and free breakfast. Even Marriott Gold gives free breakfast / lounge access!
If Accor introduced serious changes then who knows!
I would say realistically for mid tier and above there is about 75% of hotels without a lounge and 25%. Asia these days is a big chunk of Accors business and nearly all novotel or higher hotels have lounges. Oceania has maybe 15 lounges. Europe has maybe 6/7 lounges in total.
Apr 4, 2018, 9:46 am
#30
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Programs: A3 Gold, Le Club Gold
Posts: 210