Mar 31, 2016, 12:22 pm
Last edit by: jbeckett
Le Club Accorhotels is changing from 2017.
What we know so far:
Membership year:
- the membership year will change to calendar year, i.e. 1 January - 31 December
- any status achieved in 2016 will be carried forward until 31 December 2017
Points:
- there will be a distinction between reward points and the new status points
- status points can only be earned through hotel stays and related expenditure
- status points are not subject to the accelerator and will be earned at a rate of 25 points/ 10 Euro in most cases (12.5 in case of ibis and ibis styles, 10 Adagio and 5 at Adagio Access)
- Points remain valid for life, if an eligible stay is realized in the past 12 months (rolling year)
Status thresholds:
- to account for the lower earning rates of status points threshold for status have been lowered: 2,000 for silver, 7,000 for gold and 14,000 for platinum
- night requirements remain unchanged
- status is dependent on status points or nights, not both
Perks:
- no change
Redemptions:
- no change
The official website: http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub/new-rules-status.shtml Accorhotels have announced that an official communication to all members will issue around 7 April.
Issues still to be resolved:
- Accor Plus membership
What we know so far:
Membership year:
- the membership year will change to calendar year, i.e. 1 January - 31 December
- any status achieved in 2016 will be carried forward until 31 December 2017
Points:
- there will be a distinction between reward points and the new status points
- status points can only be earned through hotel stays and related expenditure
- status points are not subject to the accelerator and will be earned at a rate of 25 points/ 10 Euro in most cases (12.5 in case of ibis and ibis styles, 10 Adagio and 5 at Adagio Access)
- Points remain valid for life, if an eligible stay is realized in the past 12 months (rolling year)
Status thresholds:
- to account for the lower earning rates of status points threshold for status have been lowered: 2,000 for silver, 7,000 for gold and 14,000 for platinum
- night requirements remain unchanged
- status is dependent on status points or nights, not both
Perks:
- no change
Redemptions:
- no change
The official website: http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub/new-rules-status.shtml Accorhotels have announced that an official communication to all members will issue around 7 April.
Issues still to be resolved:
- Accor Plus membership
New programme details from 2017
Mar 30, 2016, 10:26 pm
#16
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SIN
Programs: TK-G | Accor P | SQ-G | Marriott T
Posts: 3,831
Actually although they are lowering the points for Gold and Paltinum but now you are only earning 25 points per EUR 10 regardless the level you are.
As Platinum earn 44 points per EUR 10 this means you are earning 70% less toward the elite qualification points.
We may end up need to spend more?
As Platinum earn 44 points per EUR 10 this means you are earning 70% less toward the elite qualification points.
We may end up need to spend more?
Mar 30, 2016, 11:10 pm
#17
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Programs: Accor Plus Plat, Marriot Plat, AF Silver
Posts: 315
From today, any status level acquired during 2016 shall be valid until 31 December 2017.
Does that mean that I get to add up promotions/partners points from June-December 2016 and that they will still count towards Jan-Dec 2017 balance, giving me 18 months to re-qualify to Plat?
Will the Shareholder Membership (automatic gold level, used to be plat) be extended as well?
I like the soft-landing as well, can't remember if it was there before.
All-in-all, it looks exactly like the point scheme that Air France is offering with Flying Blue.
The last question would then become... "Would extra points over a specific threshold be carried over to the next year?" like Air France does.
Example: You reach the new Platinum 14K pts level with 17K and 3K get carried over to the following calendar year.
Julien
Last edited by generikz; Mar 30, 2016 at 11:18 pm
Mar 30, 2016, 11:39 pm
#18
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,727
I don't spend so much on accor and most of my nights are in Ibis or novotel. I seldom get access to lounge as these properties seldom have lounge in Europe. May just switch the hilton or ihg. Currently, a preference for IHG due to room upgrades and late check out for their platinum and wide choice of properties.
Mar 31, 2016, 12:55 am
#19
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 91
That's quite nice for Plat like me reset'ing in June, I will get 18 months of Platinum.
Does that mean that I get to add up promotions/partners points from June-December 2016 and that they will still count towards Jan-Dec 2017 balance, giving me 18 months to re-qualify to Plat?
Does that mean that I get to add up promotions/partners points from June-December 2016 and that they will still count towards Jan-Dec 2017 balance, giving me 18 months to re-qualify to Plat?
Can anybody clarify which of these views is right, please?
Mar 31, 2016, 12:59 am
#20
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Usually in SAN or Central Europe.
Programs: AA:EXP/1MM. Accor/Radisson:Silver; HH:Gold; ICH:Plt Amb.
Posts: 22,307
All the site stated was that if you have Gold status for 2017, and you only earn 3000 status points by the end of 2017, you will have Silver status until the end of 2018. But that's because one will only need 2000 status points for earning Silver status.
Mar 31, 2016, 1:11 am
#21
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,111
I understand that bonus points earned with an offer or with a partner and bonus points from Places by Le Club AccorHotels aren't counted towards status. But I find it weird and unfair that status related accelerator points aren't counted towards status. That makes renewing higher level status very difficult for many if one earn only 25 points for 10 €, no matter what the status is. One need to spend much more to hotel room in the future than now. Is it so?
Last edited by wkndtraveler; Mar 31, 2016 at 1:20 am
Mar 31, 2016, 1:42 am
#22
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/Gold, Flying Blue Silver, All Accor Gold, Hilton Honours Diamond,
Posts: 527
I understand that bonus points earned with an offer or with a partner and bonus points from Places by Le Club AccorHotels aren't counted towards status. But I find it weird and unfair that status related accelerator points aren't counted towards status. That makes renewing higher level status very difficult for many if one earn only 25 points for 10 €, no matter what the status is. One need to spend much more to hotel room in the future than now. Is it so?
The required spend pre and post change ignoring bonus promotions and Places is virtually unchanged.
Mar 31, 2016, 1:46 am
#23
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 1,799
The example only demonstrates those who have achieved new tiers in 2016 will be given the status until the end of 2017. It doesn't mention what would happen to those who have renewed their current status through the course of 2016 whether they will be need to requalify for the start of 2017 or be allowed to keep the status until the end of 2017.
Mar 31, 2016, 1:51 am
#24
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/Gold, Flying Blue Silver, All Accor Gold, Hilton Honours Diamond,
Posts: 527
Actually although they are lowering the points for Gold and Paltinum but now you are only earning 25 points per EUR 10 regardless the level you are.
As Platinum earn 44 points per EUR 10 this means you are earning 70% less toward the elite qualification points.
We may end up need to spend more?
As Platinum earn 44 points per EUR 10 this means you are earning 70% less toward the elite qualification points.
We may end up need to spend more?
Mar 31, 2016, 2:07 am
#25
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/Gold, Flying Blue Silver, All Accor Gold, Hilton Honours Diamond,
Posts: 527
The example only demonstrates those who have achieved new tiers in 2016 will be given the status until the end of 2017. It doesn't mention what would happen to those who have renewed their current status through the course of 2016 whether they will be need to requalify for the start of 2017 or be allowed to keep the status until the end of 2017.
As Philodemus has written one of the results of this will be once you have attained status renewal in 2016 there will be a reduced incentive to earn further points in the Accor scheme for the balance of 2016 as they will not assist in status renewal as at 31st December 2017.
The webpage gives certain informations but only sight of the full new T & C's will clarify the details.
Last edited by cwl; Mar 31, 2016 at 4:42 am
Mar 31, 2016, 2:40 am
#26
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: PARIS (France)
Programs: AF/KLM Club 2000 | InterContinental Diamond RA |AMEX Plat | Visa Infinite |Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 10,963
These changes are not shocking.
And I do appreciate that AccorHotels gives information much early before actual change (not so common in the hotel industry, where you generally learn changes at the very last minute).
And I do appreciate that AccorHotels gives information much early before actual change (not so common in the hotel industry, where you generally learn changes at the very last minute).
Mar 31, 2016, 2:57 am
#27
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Programs: Accor Plus Plat, Marriot Plat, AF Silver
Posts: 315
Mar 31, 2016, 3:21 am
#28
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SIN
Programs: TK-G | Accor P | SQ-G | Marriott T
Posts: 3,831
Mar 31, 2016, 3:55 am
#29
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, UK
Programs: Amex platinum, LeClubAccor Plat, Club Carlson gold, Hilton HHonours Diamond
Posts: 318
I have just had a look at my account- my Plat status renewed in Feb 2016, and my account shows plat up to 31 Dec 2017, which is good.
I do like the Accor programme - upgrade / better room hit rate is around 95% and I always get drink vouchers.
I do like the Accor programme - upgrade / better room hit rate is around 95% and I always get drink vouchers.
Mar 31, 2016, 4:52 am
#30
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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