Old Mar 31, 16, 12:22 pm
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Le Club Accorhotels is changing from 2017.

What we know so far:

Membership year:
- the membership year will change to calendar year, i.e. 1 January - 31 December
- any status achieved in 2016 will be carried forward until 31 December 2017

Points:
- there will be a distinction between reward points and the new status points
- status points can only be earned through hotel stays and related expenditure
- status points are not subject to the accelerator and will be earned at a rate of 25 points/ 10 Euro in most cases (12.5 in case of ibis and ibis styles, 10 Adagio and 5 at Adagio Access)
- Points remain valid for life, if an eligible stay is realized in the past 12 months (rolling year)

Status thresholds:
- to account for the lower earning rates of status points threshold for status have been lowered: 2,000 for silver, 7,000 for gold and 14,000 for platinum
- night requirements remain unchanged
- status is dependent on status points or nights, not both

Perks:
- no change

Redemptions:
- no change

The official website: http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub/new-rules-status.shtml Accorhotels have announced that an official communication to all members will issue around 7 April.

Issues still to be resolved:
- Accor Plus membership
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New programme details from 2017

Old Apr 1, 16, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by starflyergold
The "free" breakfast" is such a glaring omission in the Le Club programme. I have to admit I strayed frequently recently to Hilton because of this.
There's a glass ceiling on Accor's elite programs in order not to infringe on the benefits of the (paid) Accor Plus card, such as half-price breakfast.

One way to solve that problem would be to combine LCAH and Accor Plus from 2017 so Plats effectively get Accor Plus.
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Old Apr 2, 16, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by AC14
Poor move to be honest, Accor will struggle to retain many loyal customers now.
IMO, Accor would easily identify who are their loyal customers then.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 12:20 am
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Originally Posted by PeterT1953
I have just had a look at my account- my Plat status renewed in Feb 2016, and my account shows plat up to 31 Dec 2017, which is good.

I do like the Accor programme - upgrade / better room hit rate is around 95% and I always get drink vouchers.
Just checked on mine which had status renewal in March but unfortunately my account shows this ! Valid until: 29/03/2017 Once again NO CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE ACCOR GROUP !!
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Old Apr 3, 16, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by sycokid
Just checked on mine which had status renewal in March but unfortunately my account shows this ! Valid until: 29/03/2017 Once again NO CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE ACCOR GROUP !!
Chill buddy.
1) The fact that a website has been posted on FT doesn't make it official.
2) a programme change will come by email. Then it's official.
3) then I'd give it some weeks for a system wide upgrade.

You have status right now till March 2017. That's still 11 months away. Take it easy, relax, and it will be updated soon enough.

PS: mine still says March too.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by gilbertaue
Chill buddy.
1) The fact that a website has been posted on FT doesn't make it official.
2) a programme change will come by email. Then it's official.
3) then I'd give it some weeks for a system wide upgrade.

You have status right now till March 2017. That's still 11 months away. Take it easy, relax, and it will be updated soon enough.

PS: mine still says March too.
If it's not official why are so many getting worried about it then ?
Totally chilled by the way
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Old Apr 3, 16, 1:42 am
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The changes

I just checked my mothers gold card issued in January/February and it says until February 2017 but online now it says until the 31st of December.


My membership will renew in June this year. Currently I am on about 37,000 points for these 12 months so I am well over the amount needed for Platinium membership until the 31st of Dec 2017. Also telling family members about these changes.

The big issue which is very far off in the distance is that I guess I would not spend more than 4000 euros on Hotel accomodation each year at most. (10,500 points based on only the 25 points for every 10 euros)

Which would mean I would drop to gold based on this. So its not a good annoucement for me either and plus I feel there is little to excited about spending an extra 1000-1500 euros a year to get plat.

As some said Europe is mostly without lounges and no complimentry breakfasts.
In Asia I am usually going straight for (Junior suites with lounge access already like Sofitel Macau.)

Or the presidential suite booking in february in Chengdu (damn good price for just 450 usd per night).

I do like the accor program as it might have lower features than other programs but it is not as hard to get to the highest ranking which is fair.

I am looking at the status match offer that Hilton is offering and I am thinking to give it a try.

And yes I feel I am very loyal customer with Accor.
Since 2014 I didnt stay with a non accor hotel since that time and they were all higher categories than Ibis apart from 1.

60 nights well to me that means you really live in a hotel 2 months a year.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by gilbertaue
PS: mine still says March too.
Gilbertaue, you are part of Accor Plus right? From what I understand when I asked one of my contacts at Accor Plus Singapore, the expiry date will follow your renewal date of your card. However she told me that if you continue renewing, you should't be worried as it will most probably continue to Dec 2017.

Best part is when I asked her about these new changes, she had no idea about it and neither did Accor Plus office know anything about it. They had to ask me to provide the weblink to the LeClub page which showed the changes then got back to me after awhile. LOL

Just goes to show how slow they communicate these type of information. It took a member to inform them about their own changes to the programme. Hahahaha
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by cocoleolol
Gilbertaue, you are part of Accor Plus right? From what I understand when I asked one of my contacts at Accor Plus Singapore, the expiry date will follow your renewal date of your card. However she told me that if you continue renewing, you should't be worried as it will most probably continue to Dec 2017.

Best part is when I asked her about these new changes, she had no idea about it and neither did Accor Plus office know anything about it. They had to ask me to provide the weblink to the LeClub page which showed the changes then got back to me after awhile. LOL

Just goes to show how slow they communicate these type of information. It took a member to inform them about their own changes to the programme. Hahahaha
Yes correct. I also assume that may be the case.
As mentioned before. I think Accor IT messed up posting that link live. So I'm not surprised nobody else in their system is aware of it.

I don't really care about the expiry. Living and working mostly in Asia, I am 99% loyal to Accor. I will make up the spent and also the nights.

What I also ask for is a lifetime status
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by sycokid
If it's not official why are so many getting worried about it then ?
Totally chilled by the way
i guess this sort of makes it official then !

http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub...s-status.shtml
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by sycokid
i guess this sort of makes it official then !

http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/leclub...s-status.shtml
I think their IT department made is official without letting their other departments knowing it was release. As with these types of thing, I would believe they would send out an email informing us.

I think maybe Amy from Accor Concierge should shed some light on this?
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by cocoleolol
As with these types of thing, I would believe they would send out an email informing us.
My understanding is that the email is scheduled for 7 April.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 9:28 am
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I do wonder though how many plats will be taken out by December 2017 because of this change?

If I am already earning above 40,000 points these past 2 years each from stays with bonus points and accelerator points. Not only that but I am still sure I would fall short by a decent 2000-3000 status points atleast if this went through.

So really this would seem to apply only to those people who earned over 50,000 points in last couple of years who would likely get over the requirment.

I would imagine the number of plats earning 50,000 or more would be much less than 20% of the current number of platinium members.

Isn't that a little too harsh?
Of course if your already going well beyond that 50,000 points then less plats is a nice thing as you would likely be spending more than 5600 euro's a year.

Anyway we'll see if these numbers hold. I think as some others have said maybe 10,000-12,000 status points might be a far more reasonable amount for plats.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by starflyergold
My understanding is that the email is scheduled for 7 April.
That's better than an April 1st email. Anyone remember Flying Blue?
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by nicolas75
Loyal customers will easily re-qualify, won't they?
The most loyal, of course.

Not everyone stays 60+ nights a year in a hotel.
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Old Apr 3, 16, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by AC14
Not everyone stays 60+ nights a year in a hotel.
And so the "less frequent" stayers do not have to be "given" the highest status.
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