View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
#991
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OKC
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, Marriott Rewards Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond, TK M&S Elite
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#992
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
As badly as you may think the sky is falling I can only say folks over on the AA board think it's even worse.
#993
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,067
The way I read it, the requirement is for a new carrier to fly PHL-LHR for 4 years. Would be interesting to see if Virgin gave it a go, although the city of Philadelphia has tried to get them to fly this route in the past.
#994
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
#995
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: ORD / MDW / FLL
Programs: DL DM/1MM, AA EXP, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 2,295
Delta is a possibility - originate in PHL with a change of gage in JFK. UA is a possibility although not as likely. The LHR slot was a divestiture required for approval of the AA/BA JV which US received from AA (MIA-LHR). It makes sense that the slot received from AA be given up.
What I find amusing is that US is fighting so hard to keep all the DCA slots but willingly gives up a LHR slot.
Jim
What I find amusing is that US is fighting so hard to keep all the DCA slots but willingly gives up a LHR slot.
Jim
I thought DL got the MIA-LHR slot pair. They flew if for the required time and then shifted it to another city if I remember correctly.
As for PHL, the merged US-AA/BA JV will have three daily flights out of PHL. Seems to me they could drop this to two with proper aircraft rationalization depending on how much of the traffic taking the US flight is connecting to PHL from other cities. Surely, there is enough capacity in the system between all of the other cities on the east coast with LHR service to take up the slack from losing a flight in PHL.
#996
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SFO/OAK ex DCA ex ALB
Posts: 625
Out of curiosity, have you ever attempted to book award travel on OW? I have and let me tell you it is much easier than on US. I was able to easily book an OTW in F for 200,000 miles plus fees. I have never been able to do that in the entire time I was a US CP and from what I'm reading here and on the UA board a lot of the *A carriers in Asia are cutting back on award availability.
As badly as you may think the sky is falling I can only say folks over on the AA board think it's even worse.
#997
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
As for PHL, the merged US-AA/BA JV will have three daily flights out of PHL. Seems to me they could drop this to two with proper aircraft rationalization depending on how much of the traffic taking the US flight is connecting to PHL from other cities. Surely, there is enough capacity in the system between all of the other cities on the east coast with LHR service to take up the slack from losing a flight in PHL.
The reality is that very few other airlines will want to go head-to-head against new AA PHL-LHR unless they can connect passengers at LHR, which pretty much limits the potential competition to VS/DL. The EU can wish for competiton from hubs like PHL, but PHL is basically a fortress hub and most potential competitors are bound to fail, as new AA will dominate service. DL couldn't make a go of it from MIA, and MIA has a LOT of LHR O&D.
#999
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,008
#1000
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA PLT, HHonors Gold
Posts: 178
As an AA PLT for 7 years I can tell you that I have never had a problem redeeming miles. This includes TATL on AA and TPAC on QF and CX in Business. Granted you may not get your first choice in routing (there was a 3.5 hour layover in LAX on the way to AUS), but I have not had many issues.
#1002
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 355
Reduce? They should reduce PHL - FRA with the loss of *A
#1003
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,391
The only really killer out there is BA. Considering half the US *A award thread is Australians buying their miles anyways*, and BA usually has excellent award availability, what's the difference? OK, maybe you're paying a bit more. But at least you're getting some access to F...
*this is a slight exaggeration. Slight.
#1004
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Jim
#1005
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
On some of them, yes, but generally just redeemable miles (not elite-qualifying miles). When flying on an AA codeshare on any other airline, you'll earn qualifying miles/points just like they're AA flights.
Here's a link to a list of AA current codeshare partners (14 of them):
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...tners/main.jsp
Alaska is kinda unique - it's not a Oneworld member, but any AS flight or AA codeshare of an AS flight earns full EQM.
Here's a link to a list of AA current codeshare partners (14 of them):
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...tners/main.jsp
Alaska is kinda unique - it's not a Oneworld member, but any AS flight or AA codeshare of an AS flight earns full EQM.