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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:30 am
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If you have calculated the PQDs for a trip at less than 80% of the total cost, you are very likely doing something wrong. Have you made sure to include the International Surcharge (YQ)? Have you read all of the materials linked above, and the frequently made points listed below?

Specific Unanswered Questions
Please limit these to specific, technical questions about the implementation of the PQD program.
  • Will there be a calculator that shows PQD, and will that calculator be accurate?
  • What exactly will count toward PQD?
    United states:
    Base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges
    Flights flown by United, United Express, or Copa Airlines
    Flights operated by a Star Alliance® or a MileagePlus partner airline and issued on a United ticket (ticket number starting with 016)
    Economy Plus purchases
    The value of ETCs if used as a form of payment on the checkout page

    will count towards PQD.

    Thus:
    • The amount of co-pay when using miles to upgrade..
    • The cost of PQMs/RDMs purchased when using the premier / award accelerator..
    • The face value e-certs and travel vouchers.. (still uncertainty on this since prelim PQDs appeared to include)
    • The cost of a paid upgrade..
    • An extra seat purchase (such as for a customer of size or a musical instrument); it does not presently count toward PQM.
    • Change fees.
    will not count toward PQD.
  • How will PQD be determined for UA metal segments without 016 stock ticket?
  • What happens if I depart in December and return in January?
    Just like PQM, PQD for the applicable part of fare for the segment is credited based on the departure date (year) of the segment flown. Segment fares are calculated using standard rules of the past. For the case cited there would be PQD credited in DEC 2013 (no value) and PQD applied to 2014 applicable to 2014 and 2015 status renewal.
  • How will UA evaluate the address issue for the PQD exemption?
  • It is not clear how the timing of achieving the minimum PQD requirement will impact earning RPUs and GPUs. Examples:
    • If someone crosses 75K PQM in say April, but doesn't hit $7500 PQD until December by which time has accrued 200K PQM, will he/she get 10 RPUs all at once? (and 10 GPUs assuming $10k PQD in December)
    • Do only 1Ks/GSs earn additional RPUs by flying beyond the 100k mark?
    • If a 1K crosses the 100,000 PQM mark in January 201x, the $10,000 PQD mark on December 31 201x, and ends up flying a total of 200,000 PQMs for the year 201x, how many RPUs / GPUs will be earned?
    • Will Platinums earn 2 RPUs when crossing the 75k mark but none at incremental levels thereafter (e.g. a Plat who flies 100k EQMs, but does not meet the 1K spend, would *not* earn two more RPUs)?
  • How does IRROPs affect earning of PQDs?
    • If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked non-UA/Copa metal, will one earn PQDs if rebooked onto UA?
    • If one travels on a non-016 ticket originally booked on UA/Copa metal, but is rebooked onto non UA/Copa metal, will one still get credit for PQDs in these scenarios:
      • The UA/Copa segment was the source of the irrops?
      • The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is a *A or UA/Copa partner?
      • The segment of another carrier causes the irrops, the carrier is not a *A or UA/Copa partner?
FMP (Frequently Made Points)
The following points have been made repeatedly in this thread (please feel free to add more concise points):
  • You might not be hitting the PQD minimums as easily as you think you are, given exceptions, taxes, and the existence of cheap fares.
  • It is possible for leisure travelers and even some business travelers to average well under 10cpm. This doesn't just affect "leisure 1Ks" and people on the edge of categories.
  • Presidential Plus card members (exempted from Silver/Gold/Plat PQD requirements) are most likely exempted because the FlexPQM program would complicate matters.
  • Manufacturing $25,000 spend might not actually be so hard. There's a whole forum on it.
  • The $25,000 spend can be done across multiple Chase MP cards, as long as the cards are tied to the same MileagePlus account.
  • The exceptions don't really make sense where there is a revenue-sharing joint venture in place, such as with LH on TATL routes.
  • Leaving UA for AA over objections to dollar-based status may be futile because all the majors will likely go to this model with the possible exception of the AS program which allows you to bank your DL and AA miles into one account (DL has already).
  • UA is tracking spend on UA metal now.
  • YQ, also known as the "international surcharge," is a carrier-imposed surcharge and is included in PQD.
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Old Jun 8, 2016, 1:43 pm
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Well the return segments credited.

I ended up with 794 PQD so just one off from what the eTicket said.

The RDMs and PQMs are more off but like less than 10 miles for the RDMs and the PQMs are more in my favor.
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 2:56 am
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YTD PQD

I checked my PQD today and it seems to be adding up PQD since 1/1/15. Yet my PQMs are being reported only for 2016. I get these PQD and PQM numbers from the "View My Activity Since My Last Statement" link, which shows the statement period as 1/1/15 to 6/24/16, from the mystatus.united.com page, and from the My Account page, which calls them "ytd". Any ideas what is going on?
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by economyplusfan
I checked my PQD today and it seems to be adding up PQD since 1/1/15. Yet my PQMs are being reported only for 2016. I get these PQD and PQM numbers from the "View My Activity Since My Last Statement" link, which shows the statement period as 1/1/15 to 6/24/16, from the mystatus.united.com page, and from the My Account page, which calls them "ytd". Any ideas what is going on?
The "statement period" thing has been broken for a while but all of the Premier Qualifying [PQS, PQM, and PQD] numbers (at least for me) are from 1/1/16-to present and PQD reset to $0 on the first of the year. [I track those three metrics fairly obsessively and all three they match my log precisely]

The RDMs earned, and RDMs redeemed on the other hand appears, again, for me, to reflect activity since 1/1/15 when the last statement was generated.
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
The "statement period" thing has been broken for a while but all of the Premier Qualifying [PQS, PQM, and PQD] numbers (at least for me) are from 1/1/16-to present and PQD reset to $0 on the first of the year. [I track those three metrics fairly obsessively and all three they match my log precisely]

The RDMs earned, and RDMs redeemed on the other hand appears, again, for me, to reflect activity since 1/1/15 when the last statement was generated.
To be fair, the 'statement period thing' is not broken - it is functioning as intended. There's a thread somewhere where UA Insider described they were not doing quarterly statements like they had until the end of 2014. So the current 'statement period' goes back to 1/1/2015. But they have added a date filter so you can see just the dates you want (on the web site - you can't do that on the app which makes it a PITA there).

The summary box at the top, IME, always shows Total RDM, and PQM/S/D since the beginning of the calendar year (as well as other functions like CC spend waiver reached, segments toward 4 UA-metal minimum, etc.).
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 9:32 am
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My online account statement no longer shows my Chase card waiver. When I looked a couple of weeks ago it showed close to $40,000 and "Waived." That line is no longer there. Could it be because I have now hit the required PQD, so the CC waiver is no longer needed?
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 2:54 pm
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When is PQD calculated for non USD purchases

Quick PQD question.

I purchased a ticket for £912.00 for a UA ticket on April 21st, of which £797.80 was ticket and YQ.

The receipt shows a PQD of $1138 for the combined six segments. The exchange rate was about $1.42 to £1.

My question is; is the PQD rate now fixed, or is it still subject to variations in the exchange rate until the time of the flight on July 7th. The current exchange rate is now $1.36 after yesterday's events.

Normally, PQD wouldn't be an issue for me, but it comes into play thanks to this.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-4-2016-a.html

My planned flights had a value of $4642 at purchase against a $4500 target. If the PQD rate is variable, I might have to take action or hope for some recovery is the pound before flight time.
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 4:02 pm
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My guess is it's the NUC rate on the ticket, which will not change, but only a guess.
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Old Jun 24, 2016, 7:05 pm
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It should be calculated based on the date of ticket purchase, and remain fixed.

You should be able to view the accruals for PQD under the reservation on UA.com today, and confirm that it matches your original email receipt from the day it was ticketed.
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
The "statement period" thing has been broken for a while but all of the Premier Qualifying [PQS, PQM, and PQD] numbers (at least for me) are from 1/1/16-to present and PQD reset to $0 on the first of the year. [I track those three metrics fairly obsessively and all three they match my log precisely]

The RDMs earned, and RDMs redeemed on the other hand appears, again, for me, to reflect activity since 1/1/15 when the last statement was generated.
Got it. That is how it is showing up for me, too. I was not adding in the economy plus activity lower down in my statement. Contrary to emcampbe, while I can set the statement period down below to only show activity in 2016, there is a portion of the account summary report that clearly has the wrong starting date (1/1/2015).
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by mduell
My guess is it's the NUC rate on the ticket, which will not change, but only a guess.
This. The fare construction includes an exchange rate which was calculated at ticketing, and it should be used for any PQD calculations.
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 11:39 am
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Thanks all for the reassurance. I can breath a little easier that I'm not losing out on a lot of miles on a technicality.
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by Kensterfly
My online account statement no longer shows my Chase card waiver. When I looked a couple of weeks ago it showed close to $40,000 and "Waived." That line is no longer there. Could it be because I have now hit the required PQD, so the CC waiver is no longer needed?
Question, I am a new MP Explorer CC holder, does that card remove the PQD requirements for elite advancement?? I am currently a MP Gold, heading towards 1K based on current travel plans.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by jimdarcy
Question, I am a new MP Explorer CC holder, does that card remove the PQD requirements for elite advancement?? I am currently a MP Gold, heading towards 1K based on current travel plans.

Thanks!
If you make $25,000 in net purchases this calendar year, you will receive a PQD waiver for Silver, Gold, and Platinum. The PQD waiver does not apply to 1K status.
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
If you make $25,000 in net purchases this calendar year, you will receive a PQD waiver for Silver, Gold, and Platinum. The PQD waiver does not apply to 1K status.
ok thanks for the info!

Sorry if this is off topic...how do I receive the club passes? do these come in the mail??
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Old Jun 25, 2016, 12:39 pm
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Had to call when ticket issued in a foreign currency (GBPs)

Maybe they have it sorted out by now, but I bought a ticket from ua's website with a credit card billing address in the UK; it processed and issued as a British Pound transaction. I noticed after flying the first few legs that the PQMs posted accurately, but no RDMs or PQDs posted at all. I called, and the 1K line said that the system couldn't automatically process foreign currency tickets so I should wait until I flew all segments/flight coupons on the ticket and then call back.

I did, and they manually added them to my account within a few hours.

For calculating, they'll take the NUC amount converted to USD at the exchange rate in the fare ladder (the ROE number), and apportion it across all flight segments on that fare unit.

Not a huge deal, really, but one wonders what kind of major international airline's accounting-CRM system can't account for foreign currencies without manual intervention? Then I remembered it was United...
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