Nov 16, 2019, 11:01 am
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Normal economy "saver" award inventory is X
All UA elites have access XN inventory for economy awards
Normal business / domestic first award "saver" inventory is I
1K / Plat have access to IN inventory
GS have access to PN inventory (and some ability to convert cash inventory space to award space)
PremiumPlus "saver" award inventory is RN
There is not additional inventory for elites
All UA elites have access XN inventory for economy awards
Normal business / domestic first award "saver" inventory is I
1K / Plat have access to IN inventory
GS have access to PN inventory (and some ability to convert cash inventory space to award space)
PremiumPlus "saver" award inventory is RN
There is not additional inventory for elites
United Saver Award Availability: How does it vary by elite level?
Sep 10, 2013, 9:49 am
#31
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Once again, no offense to you - some always *think* they saw it in the past, but it's never, ever replicated in the future. I've checked dozens and dozens of routings inside T-24 and there's never ANY difference between RN/R and IN/I.
Sep 10, 2013, 2:07 pm
#32
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Two people have reported seeing IN>I this summer, just in this thread. It happens, whether you believe it or not. I'll grant that it sure seems to be rare, but that doesn't warrant a hostile reaction to the people reporting what you're asking about.
Sep 10, 2013, 2:12 pm
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What do you want, notarized screen shots? You wouldn't have been able to "replicate" sabbasolo's find since he snagged the available award.
Two people have reported seeing IN>I this summer, just in this thread. It happens, whether you believe it or not. I'll grant that it sure seems to be rare, but that doesn't warrant a hostile reaction to the people reporting what you're asking about.
Two people have reported seeing IN>I this summer, just in this thread. It happens, whether you believe it or not. I'll grant that it sure seems to be rare, but that doesn't warrant a hostile reaction to the people reporting what you're asking about.
If you're using Expert Mode and seeing fare class that way, or a tool like KVS, there's a dozen+ buckets that show up, and it's easy to accidentally "see" the wrong one...I myself have thought I've actually seen R space for results, only to look closely and it was positive PN space instead, since those two buckets are back to back.
Sep 10, 2013, 2:14 pm
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What do you want, notarized screen shots? You wouldn't have been able to "replicate" sabbasolo's find since he snagged the available award.
Two people have reported seeing IN>I this summer, just in this thread. It happens, whether you believe it or not. I'll grant that it sure seems to be rare, but that doesn't warrant a hostile reaction to the people reporting what you're asking about.
Two people have reported seeing IN>I this summer, just in this thread. It happens, whether you believe it or not. I'll grant that it sure seems to be rare, but that doesn't warrant a hostile reaction to the people reporting what you're asking about.
Sep 10, 2013, 2:25 pm
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As an aside - I played around a little over lunch with one browser logged out and another signed in. I found a case where the signed in search found saver (2 pax) but the logged out browser didn't find it. However when I checked it was IN9 I9, so probably just a glitch.
Last edited by MrOCTeckels; Sep 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm Reason: add the aside
Sep 10, 2013, 2:54 pm
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If you're using Expert Mode and seeing fare class that way, or a tool like KVS, there's a dozen+ buckets that show up, and it's easy to accidentally "see" the wrong one...I myself have thought I've actually seen R space for results, only to look closely and it was positive PN space instead, since those two buckets are back to back.
In the case I mentioned above, UA had just released a bunch of saver award space to LHR (it hadn't been there the night before). My XXX-MUC search turned up a bunch of XXX-LHR-MUC routings the next morning. (My expertflyer alert showed IN=2 on the non-stop 30 days out and so I moved them over... I didn't check I availability at the time).
For R space, I definitely take advantage of RN>R (octeckels and I are often looking for R>=2, and fairly often take advantage of RN > R = 1/0). I can't remember doing that inside T-24 though.
Sep 10, 2013, 9:43 pm
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I believe you're mistaken.
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Sep 11, 2013, 7:00 am
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I think what OP is describing is a unique "feature" of CO's web site that operates like this:
1. If you've never logged in, you get one set of behaviors,
2. If you have logged in, then you leave, and come back, the site knows who you are, and then you get a different set of behaviors,
3. If you log out then log back in, in the same session, such that you actively entered your password in the current session, then you get a third set of behaviors.
1. If you've never logged in, you get one set of behaviors,
2. If you have logged in, then you leave, and come back, the site knows who you are, and then you get a different set of behaviors,
3. If you log out then log back in, in the same session, such that you actively entered your password in the current session, then you get a third set of behaviors.
Sep 11, 2013, 9:23 am
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If I recall correctly, UA Insider said in the past (a long while ago) that RN is not used at all--all instrument-supported upgrades come out of R. The R-class waitlist is prioritized by elite status, but all confirmable inventory is available to anyone. IMO, any significance attributed to RN is a myth.
Sep 11, 2013, 9:35 am
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For international flying though, I've found that 1K is absolutely essential to have access to upgrades. I've been very successful this year, something like 13/14, and sometimes I get one of the few upgrades left it seems.
Like you though, I'm out of SFO, so both of our experiences may be skewed...
Sep 12, 2013, 5:37 pm
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I think the benefit is actually limited to greater availability of domestic Y saver awards. Can't say I've ever seen anything better internationally or in F, but I did book some (last-minute funeral-related) tickets in May? in saver Y that were not available if I wasn't logged in to my 1K account.
That said, I guess I don't know they wouldn't have been available to a Silver.
That said, I guess I don't know they wouldn't have been available to a Silver.