The future of Comfort Class
Jan 11, 2013, 6:26 am
#46
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Jan 26, 2013, 2:34 am
#47
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I spoke to the TK ticket office at ARN the other day and asked about this rumor. He said he'd heard the same. He said its because they are not selling that well except for LAX and Sao Paolo. The other destinations are usually only half full. He also said that it hasn't been decided how the new 777s ordered should be configured. There are talks about removing CC completely and replace with business class only, in effect doubling the business class capacity.
His hope was to shrink the CC cabin to perhaps 24 seats instead of 63 as it is today. Only time will tell though, sine TK apparently hasn't made up their mind yet in regards to this.
His hope was to shrink the CC cabin to perhaps 24 seats instead of 63 as it is today. Only time will tell though, sine TK apparently hasn't made up their mind yet in regards to this.
Jan 26, 2013, 5:16 am
#48
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This is what I hope for too. I'm also very surprised that TK is having trouble filling up the Y+ cabin, I can only blame the fact that it's mostly unavailable for booking through OTAs, especially when part of a multi-airline itinerary. The consumer awareness is insufficient IMHO.
Jan 26, 2013, 5:32 am
#49
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This is what I hope for too. I'm also very surprised that TK is having trouble filling up the Y+ cabin, I can only blame the fact that it's mostly unavailable for booking through OTAs, especially when part of a multi-airline itinerary. The consumer awareness is insufficient IMHO.
Jan 26, 2013, 8:18 am
#50
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This is what I hope for too. I'm also very surprised that TK is having trouble filling up the Y+ cabin, I can only blame the fact that it's mostly unavailable for booking through OTAs, especially when part of a multi-airline itinerary. The consumer awareness is insufficient IMHO.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turki...pen-jawed.html
As we all know, it's cheaper to book through THY, what's really frustrating, is the fact kayak shows up Comfort Class multi-city fares (stopover and/or open jaw) through thy.com as cheapest and yet we can't book them, forcing us to deal with third party booking sites.
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Jan 29, 2013, 2:13 pm
#51
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See the thread, I'll keep updating what I'll have found
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turki...pen-jawed.html
As we all know, it's cheaper to book through THY, what's really frustrating, is the fact kayak shows up Comfort Class multi-city fares (stopover and/or open jaw) through thy.com as cheapest and yet we can't book them, forcing us to deal with third party booking sites.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turki...pen-jawed.html
As we all know, it's cheaper to book through THY, what's really frustrating, is the fact kayak shows up Comfort Class multi-city fares (stopover and/or open jaw) through thy.com as cheapest and yet we can't book them, forcing us to deal with third party booking sites.
Feb 2, 2013, 4:28 am
#52
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Feb 14, 2013, 1:20 pm
#53
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Feb 16, 2013, 10:09 pm
#54
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I'm surprised that they would want to get rid of Y+. I specifically booked TK because they offer Y+. I'm sure I'm not alone of people booking personal travel who have dispensable income for travel and personal comfort, but not quite enough to always travel in J.
I wish that more airlines would offer it!
Dr. PITUK.
I wish that more airlines would offer it!
Dr. PITUK.
Feb 17, 2013, 2:49 am
#55
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They need to also make money. when you have a great hard product, fully booked J and Y and empty Y+ , you are doing smth wrong :-(
Currently onboard LAX-IST (Y+), fully booked. Station manager in LAX confirmed that Y+ gets ~90% occupancy for this route, but still many upsells which asre not making money for TK...
Currently onboard LAX-IST (Y+), fully booked. Station manager in LAX confirmed that Y+ gets ~90% occupancy for this route, but still many upsells which asre not making money for TK...
Feb 22, 2013, 4:25 pm
#56
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I just booked a CC flight on the 773 JFK-IST-BUD for $1700 for late April. I hope it is still around by then. If it isn't I will just do a mileage ticket as I am going for a birthday party of a very dear friend. I don't care about plane food but those seats sure look nice.
Feb 22, 2013, 9:23 pm
#57
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Aren't these their 2 longest flights?
Feb 23, 2013, 4:44 am
#58
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I believe those two and Shanghai are the three longest. If I were to guess, I would guess Shanghai to be longer than Sao Paolo, but I do believe LAX is the longest one. Anyhow, I've never travelled IST-LAX or IST-Sao Paolo, but to/from Shanghai, C is almost always full and Comfort usually half full. My travel pattern is that I "always" take the Friday (00:35) flight to PVG and Friday or Saturday from PVG, so I can't really say how it looks in the middle of the week or so.
Feb 27, 2013, 9:32 pm
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This said, TK could also look at their connections. Currently I have a 2.5-3 hour wait in IST. With LH it's a 45-60 Minute wait.
Feb 27, 2013, 9:50 pm
#60
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Same here. If TK will stop CC then I wouldn't bother to use them for EU flights. EU airlines cost similar in Y class, but their fly time is usually lower.
This said, TK could also look at their connections. Currently I have a 2.5-3 hour wait in IST. With LH it's a 45-60 Minute wait.
This said, TK could also look at their connections. Currently I have a 2.5-3 hour wait in IST. With LH it's a 45-60 Minute wait.
. I just don't see IST as a hub, but I may change my mind after my visit next month .60 minutes in FRA won't get you a seat in the lounge, but from what I hear I want at least 2 hours in the IST lounge!
Dr. PITUK