KVS Availability Tool - Page 155

KVS · Mar 21, 09, 6:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

Somehow, Sabre/ITN is not working.

Apollo/Worldspan are working.

(Have the latest edition installed, as of today)

All systems continue to function normally -- perhaps it was a transient issue...

SuperFlyBoy · Mar 22, 09, 8:22 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

All systems continue to function normally -- perhaps it was a transient issue...

Actually, it wasn't - off/on for the past 2 days (Friday/Sat Indian Standard Time)

Having no problems today, Sunday, 22 March 2009.

Brobbel · Mar 23, 09, 8:54 am

Strange!

Look at KL785

[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------- 
KL        785    AMS  12:40     CUR  17:55     747  1    J4 C4 I4 Z4 D4 S4 B4 M4 H4 Q4 K4 L4 T4 V4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     CUR  18:35     763  1    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V0 W0 O4
KL        785    AMS  12:40     SXM  15:15     747  0    J6 C5 I5 Z2 S9 B9
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     AUA  16:55     763  0    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V4 W0 O4
 -> Nordi 408    AUA  18:05     CUR  18:45     EMB  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     AUA  16:55     763  0    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V4 W0 O4
 -> Dutch 2995   AUA  19:45     CUR  20:15     ATR  0    K4 L4 T4 P4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     AUA  16:55     763  0    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V4 W0 O4
 -> Nordi 412    AUA  20:55     CUR  21:35     EMB  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
AF        8229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25          0    C9 D9 Y9 S9 B9 Z9 K9 R9 U9 H9 V9 L9 W9 M9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 O0 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X9 L9
 -> Dutch 942    SXM  16:30     CUR  18:15     100  0    K4 L4 T4 P4
KL        1229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25     737  0    J9 C9 I9 Z9 X9 S9 B9 M9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 E9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 O0 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X9 L9
 -> Dutch 942    SXM  16:30     CUR  18:15     100  0    K4 L4 T4 P4
AF        8229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25          0    C9 D9 Y9 S9 B9 Z9 K9 R9 U9 H9 V9 L9 W9 M9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 O0 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X9 L9
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
KL        1229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25     737  0    J4 C4 I4 Z4 D0 X4 S4 B4 M4 K4 H4 L4 Q4 T4
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C4 D4 I0 Z4 M4 B4 K4 H4 T4 V4 L4 Q4
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4

[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------- 
KL        785    AMS  12:40     CUR  17:55     747  1    J7 C6 I6 Z1 S9 B9
MP        665    AMS  13:00     CUR  18:35     763  1    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V0 W0 O7
KL        785    AMS  12:40     SXM  15:15     747  0    J6 C5 I5 Z2 S9 B9
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M82  0    L4 W4 H4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     AUA  16:55     763  0    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V0 W0 O7
 -> Nordi 408    AUA  18:05     CUR  18:45     EMB  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
MP        665    AMS  13:00     AUA  16:55     763  0    S0 B0 M0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 V0 W0 O7
 -> Dutch 2995   AUA  19:45     CUR  20:15     ATR  0    K7 L7 T7 P0
AF/KL     8229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25     73H  0    C9 D9 Y9 S9 B9 Z9 K9 R9 U9 H9 V9 L9 W9 M9 A9 T9 E9 N9 I9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 L9 Q9 N9
 -> Dutch 942    SXM  16:30     CUR  18:15     100  0    K7 L7 T7 P0
AF/KL     8229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25     73H  0    C9 D9 Y9 S9 B9 Z9 K9 R9 U9 H9 V9 L9 W9 M9 A9 T9 E9 N9 I9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 L9 Q9 N9 G0 U0
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M82  0    L4 W4 H4

Why such a difference?

Okay, I saw on the FAQ that only one airline had to be chosen at Apollo, so again:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------- 
KL        785    AMS  12:40     CUR  17:55     747  1    J9 C9 I9 Z9 D9 S9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 T9 V9 W9

[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - WSpan: ITN/US-TAP]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------- 
KL        785    AMS  12:40     CUR  17:55     747  1    J7 C6 I6 Z1 S9 B9

[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------- 
KL        785    AMS  12:40     CUR  17:55     747  1    J6 C5 I5 Z2 S9 B9
KL        785    AMS  12:40     SXM  15:15     747  0    J6 C5 I5 Z2 S9 B9
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
KL        1223   AMS  07:15     CDG  08:40     737  0    J9 C9 I9 Z9 X9 S9 B9 M9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 E9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 O0 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X9 L9
 -> Dutch 942    SXM  16:30     CUR  18:15     100  0    K4 L4 T4 P4
KL        1223   AMS  07:15     CDG  08:40     737  0    J4 C4 I4 Z4 D0 X4 S4 B4 M4 K4 H4 L4 Q4 T4
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C4 D4 I0 Z4 M4 B4 K4 H4 T4 V4 L4 Q4
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
KL        1229   AMS  08:00     CDG  09:25     737  0    J9 C9 I9 Z9 X9 S9 B9 M9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 E9
 -> AF    488    CDG  10:55     SXM  13:40     343  0    C9 D9 I0 Z4 O0 M9 B9 K9 H9 W9 T9 V9 X9 L9
 -> Nordi 522    SXM  17:10     CUR  18:45     M83  0    Y4 H4 T4 L4 M4 W4
KL        1701   AMS  10:10     MAD  12:40     737  0    J4 C0 I0 Z0 D0 X4 S4 B4 M4 K4 H4 L4 Q4 T4
 -> UX    71     MAD  15:00     CCS  17:55     332  0    C4 D4 I4 Y4 M4 B4 K4 W4 V4 O4 X4 S4 R4 U4
 -> Dutch 2974   CCS  20:00     CUR  21:30     100  0    K4 L4 T0 P0

-----------------------------
Another strange thing:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.4.0/Platinum - ORT: Awards/SkyTeam/US-NWA]

Code:

AMS  Amsterdam-Schiphol NL [EHAM]
CUR  Curacao Aeropuerto Hato AN
DO   23 apr 2009 / 1 Seat

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------------- 
KL        785    AMS  11:40     CUR  16:55     747  1    CS- CA+  YS- YA+

Using the award-engine we leave an hour earlier

Just saw that the departure time has changed. Maybe that's the reason for the differences.

KVS · Mar 23, 09, 12:06 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brobbel

Strange!

Look at KL785

Why such a difference?

Okay, I saw on the FAQ that only one airline had to be chosen at Apollo, so again:

-----------------------------
Another strange thing:

Using the award-engine we leave an hour earlier

Just saw that the departure time has changed. Maybe that's the reason for the differences.

Looks like a combination of systems not being in-sync, the POS factor, plus a schedule change..

SuperFlyBoy · Mar 24, 09, 7:56 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

Actually, it wasn't - off/on for the past 2 days (Friday/Sat Indian Standard Time)

Having no problems today, Sunday, 22 March 2009.

I have found if you are searching with "**" in the airline(s) box, this frequently occurs. (gives the internet/time out error)

KVS · Mar 24, 09, 5:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

I have found if you are searching with "**" in the airline(s) box, this frequently occurs. (gives the internet/time out error)

These types of issues have to do with your local system and/or network (incl. your ISP's network). As for the use of the "(All Airlines)" option, the more data there is to transfer, the higher is the chance of the local system/network issues manifesting themselves...

Again, there have been no issues with the ITN system itself (or the Tool) in the recent past.

brian1042 · Mar 29, 09, 7:05 am

reading across from L to R, just before 'Availability' is a column headed 'St'. My results always show a '0'. Can anyone tell me whay 'St' means please? Thanks.

pandaperth · Mar 29, 09, 7:28 am

St = Stops, i.e. the number of stops the plane makes getting from A to B

brian1042 · Mar 29, 09, 7:36 am

Thank you.

petal · Mar 30, 09, 2:22 pm

Hi,

How long does it normally take to receive a registration code after signing up?

Never mind...I just found out - 24 hours. Thanks

KVS · Apr 1, 09, 1:04 am

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Important news for KVS Availability Tool users in light of major airline industry changes.

As you may already know, the International Air Transport Association (IATA) has now announced that its new Resolution 0401.2bis has been approved and declared effective 31 April 2009. The Resolution in question is binding on all of the IATA member carriers, which include virtually all major airlines worldwide. The following is a short summary of the key changes:

All existing revenue management mechanisms will be phased-out. Airlines will be permitted to file a total of no more than 4 fares per route (one for each cabin). Seasonality restrictions, advance purchase rules, as well as minimum/maximum stay requirements will no longer apply.

Current Fare Displays:

New simplified Fare Displays effective 31 April 2009:
Multiple booking classes will be eliminated, and availability displays will, likewise, reflect the simplified availability:

Current Availability Displays:

New simplified Availability Displays effective 31 April 2009:
Award and upgrade capacity restrictions will be removed. Therefore, there will no longer be a need to check award and upgrade availability separately.

Current Award Availability Displays:

New simplified Award Availability Displays effective 31 April 2009:

Further information will be posted on the KVS Availability Tool Homepage (http://www.KVSTool.com/) as it becomes available...

We also wish to take this opportunity to thank all existing members for their support of the KVS Availability Tool Project during the era of complex airline pricing and award/upgrade capacity controls.

wcj1 · Apr 1, 09, 1:29 am

Bonus points for effort involved. If only everyone incorporated mockups in their pranks.

BillJ

onlysuites · Apr 1, 09, 2:55 am

Where can I get more information?

Edited - I just realized what day it was. Good one

SuperFlyBoy · Apr 1, 09, 5:45 am

April Fool's!

EileenSRN · Apr 1, 09, 1:55 pm

Oh! To dream........

GREAT April Fools' Day

Eileen