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Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:13 pm
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This Wiki is helpful for those of us trying to identify if we're getting a good rate or if it may be better to wait until a better rate comes along.

As such, please list the lowest rate you've ever seen at a property that is available to the general public (this excludes SET rates, Gov't rates and AARP). We will include AAA rates, since anyone can join AAA and be eligible.

Please be sure to:
1- list the mo/year the rate was good for (NOT the month you found the rate). This will allow us to see seasonality. So, for example if you find a rate lower than one shown below for the same season (spring, summer, winter or fall) - replace the rate you found with the new one. If you found it in a different season or year, just add it below the rate - and leave the rate shown.
2- list the type of rate you found or where you found it (if not on Starwood). If you found the rate off Starwood - please list "all in" rate (including taxes & fees you were charged).
3- list the rates in local currency (which removes currency fluctuations).

Asia Pacific

Australia
Gold Coast - Sheraton Mirage Resort & Spa
Summer - $206.67 AUD incl tax, Mastercard Buy 2 Get 3 (3/2014)
Melbourne - The Westin Melbourne
Summer - $201 AUD incl tax, SPG Cyber Monday Sale (11/2016)
Sydney - Four Points by Sheraton Syndey, Darling Harbour
Summer - $164 AUD incl. tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (03/2014)
Fall - $164 AUD incl tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (4/2014)
Sydney - Sheraton on the Park
Winter - $145 AUD incl. tax, Pre-paid rate (08/2012)
Summer - $204 AUD incl tax, pre-paid rate (3/2014)
Sydney - The Westin Sydney
Summer - $225 AUD incl. tax, BAR (03/2014)

China
Hong Kong - Sheraton Hong Kong Hotel & Towers
Fall - 1,900 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (11/2013)
Summer - 1,710 HKD + 10% tax, 14 Days Adv Booking, Prepaid (08/2014)
Winter - 1,520 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (12/2013)
Shandong - Aloft Haylang
Winter- 24USD Hot rates.
Zhengzhou - Aloft Zhengzhou Shangjie
Fall- 188CNY weekend, 288CNY weekday (10/2013)
Macau/Macao - Sheraton Macao, Cotai Central
Winter - 1,250 HKD + service charge and taxes. BRG Rate (01/2015)

India
Jaipur- Four Points by Sheraton Jaipur
Summer - INR 2,699 ($43) tax inclusive, BAR (05/2013)

Indonesia
Bali- Le Meridien Bali
Summer - $135 USD + tax, Best Available Rate (08/2013)
Bali - Westin Bali
Winter - 124 USD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Spring 108.31 all in, BRG rate, with 10% discount, from agoda (03/2014)

Korea
Seoul- Westin Chosun Seoul
Winter - 165,898.91 KRW plus tax and service charge, per night. BRG Rate ~ USD150++ per night (Feb 2015)

Singapore
Singapore - Sheraton Singapore

Fall - 197 SGD (10/2013)
Winter - 182 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Singapore - Westin Singapore
Winter - 296 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Thailand
Bangkok - Aloft Bangkok Sukhumvit 11
Fall - 2,204 THB + tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)
Winter - 2,350 THB + tax, SPG50 (Dec 2013)
Bangkok - Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok
Fall - 2,659 THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (Dec 2013)
Winter - 2,667 THB + 17.7% tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (Jan 2014)
Bangkok - Le Meridien:
Fall - 3,192THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (10/2013)
Summer - 3,000THB +17.7% tax, (7/2010)
Winter - 2,718.78 THB ++ (1/2014)
Bangkok - Plaza Athénée Bangkok, A Royal Méridien Hotel
Winter - 3,533 THB ++ (12/2013)
Bangkok - Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit:
Summer - 3,999 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes weekends (07/2014)
Summer - 2,350 THB (~55€) incl. Breakf. & Tax logitravel.de (08/2013)
Winter - 3,999 THB ++ Chinese New Year prepaid hotel offer (01/2012)
Bangkok - W Bangkok
Summer - 2,350 THB ($75USD) + 17.7% tax, Red Hot Deal - Save 50%, on hotelclub.com (07/2013)
Fall - 3,900 THB ++, Red Hot Deal Save 50% Prepaid (11/2013)
Bangkok - Westin Grande Sukhumvit:
Fall - 2,850 THB ++ weekends, SPG Hot Escapes (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Winter - 3,000 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes (Jan & Feb 2014)
Phuket - Westin Siray Bay
Fall - 2,200 THB ++ DALY50 (09/2013)
Koh Samui - Le Meridien Koh Samui Resort & Spa
Spring THB 4,468.06 all in. BRG claim, with 10% discount, from agoda (05/2014)

Europe

France
Paris - Le Meridien Etoile
Spring - 123 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (01/2012)
Fall - 133 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (02/2015)

Georgia
Batumi - Sheraton Batumi
Fall - $145USD including tax, SPG50 (09/2013)

Germany
Duesseldorf - Sheraton Duesseldorf Airport
Fall - 88€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Essen - Sheraton Essen
Fall - 89€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Frankfurt- Sheraton Frankfurt Airport
Winter - 90€, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Greece
Athens - King George
Fall - 141.75€ + 7% tax, Best Available Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)

Italy
Bari - Sheraton Nicolaus:
Fall- 83.70€ including tax, AAA (09/2013)
Milan - Four Points Milan
Fall - 74€ including tax, Buy 2 get 1 free weekends (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Milan - Sheraton Diana Majestic:
Fall - 89€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (09/2013)
Milan - Westin Palace:
Fall - 118€ including tax, except 5€ city tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Rome - Westin Excelsior
Fall - 217€ plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Spain
Barcelona - Le Meridien Barcelona
Fall - 166€ plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Barcelona - W Barcelona
Fall - 173€ plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Madrid - Westin Palace:
Summer - 159€ plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes (8/2014)
Fall - 168€ plus tax (11/2013)

Russia
St. Petersburg - W St. Petersburg
Fall - $125€ + tax on Sundays, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Middle East & Africa

Egypt
Luxor- Sheraton Luxor, Egypt
Fall - $49.21USD +24% tax, 30% off prepaid incl. breakfast (11/2013)
UAE
Abu Dhabi - St Regis Saadiyat Island
Winter - 714 AED, prepaid rate (12/2013)

North America

California
Los Angeles - Westin Long Beach
Fall - $109 + tax, Birth Year Offer (10/2014)
San Francisco - Le Meridien San Francisco
Winter - $169 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Palace Hotel
Summer - $199 + tax, Best Available Rate (8/2013)
Winter - $145 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf Hotel
Fall - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $139 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - W San Francisco
Summer - $151 + tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (8/2014)
San Francisco - Westin San Francisco Market Street
Winter - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco- Westin St. Francis San Francisco on Union Square
Fall - $144 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $159 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)

Colorado
Beaver Creek (Avon—the Vail Valley) - Sheraton Mountain Vista
Fall - $89 + tax, AAA (Oct/Nov 2013 until 11/21 since Vail opens on 11/22)

Florida
Ft Lauderdale - The Westin Ft Lauderdale:
Fall - $75.24 + $11% tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (10/2013)
Jacksonville - Four Points by Sheraton Jacksonville Baymeadows
Fall - $64 + tax, most weekends (Nov & Dec 2013)

Hawaii
Honolulu - Sheraton Waikiki
Winter - $196 + tax, partial ocean view, prepaid (01/2015)

Nebraska
Omaha - Sheraton Omaha
Fall - $69 incl. breakfast (09/2013)

New York
Long Island City - Four Points by Sheraton LIC/Queensboro Bridge
Fall - $188 +18.24% tax, AAA Rate over Thanksgiving weekend (11/2013)
Queens - Sheraton JFK
Summer - $148 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (8/2014)
Fall - $135 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (9/2014)

Virginia
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Herndon Dulles Airport:
Fall - $59 + tax, every weekend all Fall (2013)
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Reston:
Fall - $64 + tax, every weekend in September incl. Thursdays (09/2013)

Central & South America
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by tillephone
Since the wiki posts in this forum are restricted
What is the restriction requirement to edit the wiki? 100 posts?
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 2:27 pm
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Yes, 100+ posts.
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Old Oct 11, 2013, 12:51 pm
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really? ok. so this is one step closer... (isn't it stupid? motivates me to spam other threads with posts like this one...)
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Old Oct 11, 2013, 1:23 pm
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Sheraton Frankfurt Airport - 99 EUR 02/12
Sheraton Singapore 197 SGD 10/13
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Old Oct 11, 2013, 1:24 pm
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Question

I don't understand how this thread is to be used or if its realistically helpful.

Just because I found a $100 rate a X property today, that doesn't mean it will be offered again.

Or is this thread solely to keep "FT historical" record of the lowest rate ever booked at a property?
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Old Oct 11, 2013, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by KENNECTED
I don't understand how this thread is to be used or if its realistically helpful.

Just because I found a $100 rate a X property today, that doesn't mean it will be offered again.

Or is this thread solely to keep "FT historical" record of the lowest rate ever booked at a property?
It is not intended as a historical record but rather as a guideline to assess whether we are getting a good rate at a particular hotel and/or whether we should book a prepaid rate or perhaps wait til a rate comes down. Or perhaps choose an alternate Starwood property in the area.

Here's a hypothetical example: I'm heading to Thailand in November. It's my first time and I have no idea what the rates are. I find rates at the Le Meridien Bangkok at 4,000 THB and at the SGS at almost 6,000 THB. Are they good rates? On the low side? High side? If the rates I found are pre-paid would it be worthwhile to book them? Or would it be better to wait? Or perhaps choose a rate at the Westin Grande at 3,000 THB? In this hypothetical example, using the data in this thread - I would either book the Westin Grande at 3,000 THB prepaid, or wait to see if the Le Meridien or SGS come down. Without this thread - I would have less information to make such a decision.

When I'm heading to a city in the future - I monitor rates over months at a time (when I have such advance notice). But sometimes I don't - and being able to see what the lowest rates were gives me a much better idea of what to do. I agree, those rates may not come around again. However, based on the data gathered so far, I am able to identify a much closer range that rates fall into than without this thread. As such, my informed decision is much better than without.

This thread will not help you get the absolute lowest rate ever - and is not intended to do so. But I believe it is very helpful to give you an idea of the type of 'best' rates available at a certain hotel, which can be very helpful when you have no experience at that property or city.
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Old Oct 16, 2013, 5:13 am
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Sheraton Frankfurt Airport - 99 EUR 02/12
Sheraton Singapore 197 SGD 10/13
Thanks, added to the wiki along with a few others I had ^
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Old Nov 13, 2013, 6:54 am
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Great idea for a wiki. Got a list at home of recent low rates for a number of hotels in Europe that I have been looking at. Will upload them if others haven't stepped in before then.
Thanks! Did you ever have a chance to add those Europe hotels?
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Old Nov 16, 2013, 4:47 am
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San Francisco - Palace Hotel
Best Available Rate is now $145+tax for almost all of Dec 2013

and

San Francisco - Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf Hotel
Best Available Rate is now $129+tax for almost all of 11/21-12/2/2013

Last edited by tamadeals; Nov 16, 2013 at 4:49 am Reason: Adding updated price for Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf Hotel
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 3:43 pm
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Westin Singapore 296 SGD++ (Hot Escapes 01/14)
Sheraton Singapore 182 SGD++ (Hot Escapes 01/14)
Westin Bali 124 USD++ (Hot Escapes 01/14)
St Regis Saadiyat Island 714 AED (prepaid rate 12/13)
Sheraton Frankfurt Airport 90 EUR (Hot Escapes 01/14)
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 12:18 am
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i've added the four points by sheraton jaipur to the wiki....my usual rate in the summer for the last 2 years is around $50 (tax inclusive) a night....in 2013 i often found rates for $43 a night....i also use this property for day stays quite often & most of the time i get a $32 rate....
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 12:45 am
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Whoever added LM Bangkok - how do I find it for 2700++? I think the wiki needs more detail (site, promo code or rate, example date) to be useful.
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by remymartin
Whoever added LM Bangkok - how do I find it for 2700++? I think the wiki needs more detail (site, promo code or rate, example date) to be useful.
Agreed, someone mentioned it in the thread but didn't provide enough info (but I still added the rate). Generally I think best to provide site, promo code, etc. - and most of the rates shown have this info. You might scroll back and see who added it and PM him/her?

I also like the idea of sample dates (rather than seasons), but it just seemed the wiki would get incredibly difficult to read. Open to suggestions on how to modify.
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelinSperry
I also like the idea of sample dates (rather than seasons), but it just seemed the wiki would get incredibly difficult to read. Open to suggestions on how to modify.
Well, I created this spreadsheet a while ago (see my previous post also)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0

but that idea didn't pick up obviously - although spreadsheets are obviously a very good idea to capture, structure and analyze data... but some people seem to be afraid of grids (in general, I mean, not related to this forum).
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Old Jan 19, 2014, 4:32 pm
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Best SPG SET number for Westin Resort, Aruba

Hi Flyertalk Forum,

I'm new to this forum, and was wondering if anyone knows of a good booking rate code to use for The Westin Resort and Casino, Aruba.

I tried a few SET numbers and the best rate I could come up with is ~ $320 per night from Feb 15 to Feb 19, 2014.

Thank you!
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