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This Wiki is helpful for those of us trying to identify if we're getting a good rate or if it may be better to wait until a better rate comes along.

As such, please list the lowest rate you've ever seen at a property that is available to the general public (this excludes SET rates, Gov't rates and AARP). We will include AAA rates, since anyone can join AAA and be eligible.

Please be sure to:
1- list the mo/year the rate was good for (NOT the month you found the rate). This will allow us to see seasonality. So, for example if you find a rate lower than one shown below for the same season (spring, summer, winter or fall) - replace the rate you found with the new one. If you found it in a different season or year, just add it below the rate - and leave the rate shown.
2- list the type of rate you found or where you found it (if not on Starwood). If you found the rate off Starwood - please list "all in" rate (including taxes & fees you were charged).
3- list the rates in local currency (which removes currency fluctuations).

Asia Pacific

Australia
Gold Coast - Sheraton Mirage Resort & Spa
Summer - $206.67 AUD incl tax, Mastercard Buy 2 Get 3 (3/2014)
Melbourne - The Westin Melbourne
Summer - $201 AUD incl tax, SPG Cyber Monday Sale (11/2016)
Sydney - Four Points by Sheraton Syndey, Darling Harbour
Summer - $164 AUD incl. tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (03/2014)
Fall - $164 AUD incl tax, Mastercard 20% off 2+ nights (4/2014)
Sydney - Sheraton on the Park
Winter - $145 AUD incl. tax, Pre-paid rate (08/2012)
Summer - $204 AUD incl tax, pre-paid rate (3/2014)
Sydney - The Westin Sydney
Summer - $225 AUD incl. tax, BAR (03/2014)

China
Hong Kong - Sheraton Hong Kong Hotel & Towers
Fall - 1,900 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (11/2013)
Summer - 1,710 HKD + 10% tax, 14 Days Adv Booking, Prepaid (08/2014)
Winter - 1,520 HKD + 10% tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (12/2013)
Shandong - Aloft Haylang
Winter- 24USD Hot rates.
Zhengzhou - Aloft Zhengzhou Shangjie
Fall- 188CNY weekend, 288CNY weekday (10/2013)
Macau/Macao - Sheraton Macao, Cotai Central
Winter - 1,250 HKD + service charge and taxes. BRG Rate (01/2015)

India
Jaipur- Four Points by Sheraton Jaipur
Summer - INR 2,699 ($43) tax inclusive, BAR (05/2013)

Indonesia
Bali- Le Meridien Bali
Summer - $135 USD + tax, Best Available Rate (08/2013)
Bali - Westin Bali
Winter - 124 USD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Spring 108.31 all in, BRG rate, with 10% discount, from agoda (03/2014)

Korea
Seoul- Westin Chosun Seoul
Winter - 165,898.91 KRW plus tax and service charge, per night. BRG Rate ~ USD150++ per night (Feb 2015)

Singapore
Singapore - Sheraton Singapore

Fall - 197 SGD (10/2013)
Winter - 182 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)
Singapore - Westin Singapore
Winter - 296 SGD++, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Thailand
Bangkok - Aloft Bangkok Sukhumvit 11
Fall - 2,204 THB + tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)
Winter - 2,350 THB + tax, SPG50 (Dec 2013)
Bangkok - Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok
Fall - 2,659 THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (Dec 2013)
Winter - 2,667 THB + 17.7% tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (Jan 2014)
Bangkok - Le Meridien:
Fall - 3,192THB + 17.7% tax, SPG Hot Escapes (10/2013)
Summer - 3,000THB +17.7% tax, (7/2010)
Winter - 2,718.78 THB ++ (1/2014)
Bangkok - Plaza Athénée Bangkok, A Royal Méridien Hotel
Winter - 3,533 THB ++ (12/2013)
Bangkok - Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit:
Summer - 3,999 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes weekends (07/2014)
Summer - 2,350 THB (~55€) incl. Breakf. & Tax logitravel.de (08/2013)
Winter - 3,999 THB ++ Chinese New Year prepaid hotel offer (01/2012)
Bangkok - W Bangkok
Summer - 2,350 THB ($75USD) + 17.7% tax, Red Hot Deal - Save 50%, on hotelclub.com (07/2013)
Fall - 3,900 THB ++, Red Hot Deal Save 50% Prepaid (11/2013)
Bangkok - Westin Grande Sukhumvit:
Fall - 2,850 THB ++ weekends, SPG Hot Escapes (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Winter - 3,000 THB ++ SPG Hot Escapes (Jan & Feb 2014)
Phuket - Westin Siray Bay
Fall - 2,200 THB ++ DALY50 (09/2013)
Koh Samui - Le Meridien Koh Samui Resort & Spa
Spring THB 4,468.06 all in. BRG claim, with 10% discount, from agoda (05/2014)

Europe

France
Paris - Le Meridien Etoile
Spring - 123 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (01/2012)
Fall - 133 Euros including tax, Travel Zoo, prepaid rate (02/2015)

Georgia
Batumi - Sheraton Batumi
Fall - $145USD including tax, SPG50 (09/2013)

Germany
Duesseldorf - Sheraton Duesseldorf Airport
Fall - 88€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Essen - Sheraton Essen
Fall - 89€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Frankfurt- Sheraton Frankfurt Airport
Winter - 90€, Hot Escapes (01/2014)

Greece
Athens - King George
Fall - 141.75€ + 7% tax, Best Available Rate (Oct & Nov 2013)

Italy
Bari - Sheraton Nicolaus:
Fall- 83.70€ including tax, AAA (09/2013)
Milan - Four Points Milan
Fall - 74€ including tax, Buy 2 get 1 free weekends (Oct, Nov & Dec 2013)
Milan - Sheraton Diana Majestic:
Fall - 89€ including tax, BeatTheTimer (09/2013)
Milan - Westin Palace:
Fall - 118€ including tax, except 5€ city tax, BeatTheTimer (10/2013)
Rome - Westin Excelsior
Fall - 217€ plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Spain
Barcelona - Le Meridien Barcelona
Fall - 166€ plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Barcelona - W Barcelona
Fall - 173€ plus tax, Buy 2 get 1 free (11/2013)
Madrid - Westin Palace:
Summer - 159€ plus tax, SPG Hot Escapes (8/2014)
Fall - 168€ plus tax (11/2013)

Russia
St. Petersburg - W St. Petersburg
Fall - $125€ + tax on Sundays, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (11/2013)

Middle East & Africa

Egypt
Luxor- Sheraton Luxor, Egypt
Fall - $49.21USD +24% tax, 30% off prepaid incl. breakfast (11/2013)
UAE
Abu Dhabi - St Regis Saadiyat Island
Winter - 714 AED, prepaid rate (12/2013)

North America

California
Los Angeles - Westin Long Beach
Fall - $109 + tax, Birth Year Offer (10/2014)
San Francisco - Le Meridien San Francisco
Winter - $169 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Palace Hotel
Summer - $199 + tax, Best Available Rate (8/2013)
Winter - $145 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - Sheraton Fisherman's Wharf Hotel
Fall - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $139 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco - W San Francisco
Summer - $151 + tax, SPG Hot Escapes, Member Only (8/2014)
San Francisco - Westin San Francisco Market Street
Winter - $129 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)
San Francisco- Westin St. Francis San Francisco on Union Square
Fall - $144 + tax, Best Available Rate (11/2013)
Winter - $159 + tax, Best Available Rate (12/2013)

Colorado
Beaver Creek (Avon—the Vail Valley) - Sheraton Mountain Vista
Fall - $89 + tax, AAA (Oct/Nov 2013 until 11/21 since Vail opens on 11/22)

Florida
Ft Lauderdale - The Westin Ft Lauderdale:
Fall - $75.24 + $11% tax, SPG Hot Escapes Members Rate (10/2013)
Jacksonville - Four Points by Sheraton Jacksonville Baymeadows
Fall - $64 + tax, most weekends (Nov & Dec 2013)

Hawaii
Honolulu - Sheraton Waikiki
Winter - $196 + tax, partial ocean view, prepaid (01/2015)

Nebraska
Omaha - Sheraton Omaha
Fall - $69 incl. breakfast (09/2013)

New York
Long Island City - Four Points by Sheraton LIC/Queensboro Bridge
Fall - $188 +18.24% tax, AAA Rate over Thanksgiving weekend (11/2013)
Queens - Sheraton JFK
Summer - $148 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (8/2014)
Fall - $135 +18.25% tax, Buy 2 get 3rd free (9/2014)

Virginia
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Herndon Dulles Airport:
Fall - $59 + tax, every weekend all Fall (2013)
Dulles/Reston - Sheraton Reston:
Fall - $64 + tax, every weekend in September incl. Thursdays (09/2013)

Central & South America
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Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:10 pm
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Lowest rates ever, by Starwood hotel

I think it would be worthwhile to create a Wiki where we can list the lowest rate found at each property available to the general public, with the most recent date listed (not including SET rates, AARP or Gov't rates). It is very important to show the date (because rates do change over time).

I think it would be particularly helpful for those of us trying to identify if we're getting a good rate or if it may be better to wait until a better rate comes along.

I realize one flaw in this may be timing - some properties have lower rates in certain seasons or during certain times of the year. So perhaps, it is best to list the lowest 3 rates - or lowest rate by season (Spring, Summer, Winter, & Fall).

Another flaw may be that the lowest rate could be from years ago - rather than recently. So perhaps we also list the lowest rate, by year (still showing the month/year of the rate found).

Open to comments/suggestions for the Wiki. I will begin by creating the wiki and starting the process. We can update it as good suggestions come in.
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Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:17 pm
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I wish we would have a thread likt this for credit card offers LOL
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Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I wish we would have a thread likt this for credit card offers LOL
Nice, why not start a wiki for it?

I assume you're the one who listed the logitravel.de rate for the SGS. Amazing rate!!! I wish I found that - the SGS is my fave hotel in Bangkok. That's a killer rate - did you BRG it so you could get your SPG benefits too?
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Old Oct 4, 2013, 11:56 pm
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Westin Bangkok - THB 2,845++ Spg Hot escapes ( 10/2013 )
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Aloft Zhengzhou Shangjie, China - 188CNY weekend rate (~$30), 288CNY weekday rate (~$48). Probably the cheapest SPG properties...
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 2:12 am
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Great idea for a wiki. Got a list at home of recent low rates for a number of hotels in Europe that I have been looking at. Will upload them if others haven't stepped in before then.
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 2:54 am
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the rates for W Bangkok and SGS are unbelievable low... *_* too bad i missed that ;>


but i got 2,718.78 THB ++ for the Meridien Bangkok ! (January 2014), a steal as well


I am not sure this wiki is really helpful.... it shows what price was available a single moment... it just makes me feel bad more to book hotels at "going" prices...
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Originally Posted by cln
the rates for W Bangkok and SGS are unbelievable low... *_* too bad i missed that ;>


but i got 2,718.78 THB ++ for the Meridien Bangkok ! (January 2014), a steal as well
I even did a BRG on the rate for the SGS the total before tax for 4 nights was THB 7,433.76

This is a per night rate of: 1858 THB ++

This is nearly a steal....
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 3:03 am
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I think this thread would be more useful if only continuous / often renewed promo rates were included, e.g.:
- Beat The Timer
- Starpicks / Hot Escapes
- SPG50

Also - is the purpose of this thread to list properties that are inexpensive (<100€) or rates for any property that are considered good deals (e.g. StR NYC < $600) or both?
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 3:42 am
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i think both !


that's an awesome deal at the sgs... i paid this price for one night you had 4 nights lol
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by RAPC
Great idea for a wiki.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by cln
I am not sure this wiki is really helpful.... it shows what price was available a single moment... it just makes me feel bad more to book hotels at "going" prices...
I agree one of the possible flaws in this Wiki is that these prices were available at a single point in time and may not become available again. That's why I thought listing by season is somewhat more helpful, as it allows us to generally see lowest rates throughout the year - and if the wiki is kept up to date, it allows us to see those rates for the prior year (which is more relevant than seeing rates from years ago).

Originally Posted by remymartin
I think this thread would be more useful if only continuous / often renewed promo rates were included, e.g.:
- Beat The Timer
- Starpicks / Hot Escapes
- SPG50

Also - is the purpose of this thread to list properties that are inexpensive (<100€) or rates for any property that are considered good deals (e.g. StR NYC < $600) or both?
Interesting idea. In fact, my initial thoughts were that people would solely list rates found on SPG (since I assumed none of us want to give up our SPG benefits by booking elsewhere). However, since you can BRG the lower rates - it may prove helpful to show 3rd party websites too. Would removing these serve the purpose of the wiki (see below before responding to this question)?

As to that purpose - the intent was to show good deals regardless of rate. I may want to stay at the St Regis - and what I'm trying to ascertain is whether I'm getting the best rate (or close to it) or whether rates are high for some reason. I have flexibility in date(s) and in property when traveling, so I was hoping by having this Wiki I could use it to find whether I'm in the ballpark of the lowest rates.

Let's use the Le Meridien Bangkok since it has 3 of the 4 seasons showing. This provides a good example of what I was seeking. A quick perusal shows me that if I'm able to get a rate around 3000THB ++ then I'm getting a good deal. I also know it's probably wise to grab this deal while it lasts (since rates are unlikely to drop further). Plus, if the best rate I found is 4250THB++ then perhaps I'd like to look at one of the other properties in Bangkok instead. Prior to seeing this Wiki - I had only my single data point (since I've stayed at this property before) to know whether I was getting a good rate or not. Now, with all of us chipping in, we have much more information to make a decision about the rates we're getting at the hotel.

Further, imagine then, that the St Regis Bangkok was 5500THB ++ (assume that's the lowest rate over the seasons) - and I'm able to get it during the same dates. Knowing it's a great deal, I might choose that property over Le Meridien (even though it's more pricey), since I may not see a deal like that again for quite a while.

Anyway, those were my thoughts. I don't feel bad knowing others paid less - instead I'm learning not to wait for a better deal and/or to look at an alternate property within the city to scoop up the best deal.

Absolutely open to ideas to improve this Wiki for all... so let the suggestions roll
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 7:57 am
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Amazing idea for a thread. Been wondering the same thing for Westin Aruba, Hotel Pulitzer AMS, and Westin Madrid.
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by pricesquire
Amazing idea for a thread. Been wondering the same thing for Westin Aruba, Hotel Pulitzer AMS, and Westin Madrid.
Thanks! I updated the lowest rate I ever found at the Westin Madrid. Guessing others found lower, so once enough people join in it may drop, but for now - thought it may help you make a decision. I'm going off memory (didn't book it cause it was prepaid), but it was in the low 170's in Euro.
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Originally Posted by remymartin
I think this thread would be more useful if only continuous / often renewed promo rates were included, e.g.:
- Beat The Timer
- Starpicks / Hot Escapes
- SPG50

Also - is the purpose of this thread to list properties that are inexpensive (<100€) or rates for any property that are considered good deals (e.g. StR NYC < $600) or both?
I think beat the timer got removed by starwood. they're coming up with some new discounted rate site I think??
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 2:03 pm
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I think beat the timer got removed by starwood. they're coming up with some new discounted rate site I think??
It appears Beat the Timer and Starpicks are being combined into Hot Escapes.
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