Discussion: 10 Suite Night Awards (SNAs) for Plats with 50 nights in calendar year
#31
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: PHL
Programs: Marriott Lifetime PLT
Posts: 1,229
I am very happy by this enhancement, as it will be great to have a sort of "trump card" for certain stays when an upgrade is extremely important to me.
That said the T&Cs of this are very unclear, and since a lot is being left up to the properties, I expect there to be many inconsistencies. Here are few specific questions/concerns:
- Do these certificates confirm into any (non-specialty) suite available for revenue purchase at the time, or does it come from a separate pool of "upgrade available rooms" similar to airline awards
- How will priority be determined when multiple PLTs have requested an upgrade at the 5 day mark? Is it according to the SPG rankings as suites are currently done, or the date the upgrade was requested.
- The terms are very unclear on what room type you can be confirmed into. I think it would be better if they only confirmed into something above a junior suite. I would hate to waste these certs for a "premium room" or small one room "suite". Hopefully the properties will understand their intended use and use them for something about the upgrade a PLT would normally get.
That said the T&Cs of this are very unclear, and since a lot is being left up to the properties, I expect there to be many inconsistencies. Here are few specific questions/concerns:
- Do these certificates confirm into any (non-specialty) suite available for revenue purchase at the time, or does it come from a separate pool of "upgrade available rooms" similar to airline awards
- How will priority be determined when multiple PLTs have requested an upgrade at the 5 day mark? Is it according to the SPG rankings as suites are currently done, or the date the upgrade was requested.
- The terms are very unclear on what room type you can be confirmed into. I think it would be better if they only confirmed into something above a junior suite. I would hate to waste these certs for a "premium room" or small one room "suite". Hopefully the properties will understand their intended use and use them for something about the upgrade a PLT would normally get.
#32
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
- How will priority be determined when multiple PLTs have requested an upgrade at the 5 day mark? Is it according to the SPG rankings as suites are currently done, or the date the upgrade was requested.
- The terms are very unclear on what room type you can be confirmed into. I think it would be better if they only confirmed into something above a junior suite. I would hate to waste these certs for a "premium room" or small one room "suite". Hopefully the properties will understand their intended use and use them for something about the upgrade a PLT would normally get.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
#33
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: SPG Platinum, UA Premier
Posts: 38
I was at 32 stays and 47 nights IIRC.
I probably would have been over 50 nights had some of the award nights posted correctly.
Everytime I book one revenue night directly followed by cash&points or award stays the nights counter does not reflect this correctly (only 1 night and 1 stay posts versus the actual 2 nights and 1 stay).
I never chased it up, as I had already re-qualified via the stay counter.
Had I known this was going to happen ...
I probably would have been over 50 nights had some of the award nights posted correctly.
Everytime I book one revenue night directly followed by cash&points or award stays the nights counter does not reflect this correctly (only 1 night and 1 stay posts versus the actual 2 nights and 1 stay).
I never chased it up, as I had already re-qualified via the stay counter.
Had I known this was going to happen ...
#34
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Starwood Platinum
Posts: 244
Hi William -
I have a reservation for the first week in April that was booked through the Platinum desk for 6 nights in an upgraded room, but not a suite at a resort. Will it be posssible apply these suite nights (after March 1st) to an existing reservation through calling in - or will i have to cancel and rebook?
Thanks!
I have a reservation for the first week in April that was booked through the Platinum desk for 6 nights in an upgraded room, but not a suite at a resort. Will it be posssible apply these suite nights (after March 1st) to an existing reservation through calling in - or will i have to cancel and rebook?
Thanks!
#35
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM, SPG Plat
Posts: 270
Members will be given a selection of upgraded rooms,including select standard suites to choose from at the time of request. Five days before arrival, the system will begin checking to see if the requested upgrade is available. If it, is you'll be notifed that the upgrade is confirmed. If it isn't, the system will continue checking up to the day before arrival when you will get a final status report.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
[email protected]
One more question: Is the pool of upgradeable rooms that Plats choose from under this program the same pool of rooms each property uses to upgrade plats not using their suite nites? Could we conceivably use this program to better understand what rooms are deemed "upgradeable" property to property? (If so, again, this is a great benefit; I find the "upgradeable" room types to vary quite a bit from property to property and it would absolutely help in the pre-planning trips.)
thanks also for all the attn answering these questions on FT. SPG truly does it right.
#36
Join Date: Jun 2002
Programs: UA 1MM, JAL JGC Diamond, SPG Lifetime PLT, AMEX PLT
Posts: 1,231
I wish I could use TIME MACHINE to go back to Dec 2011, and spent more nights to reach 50!
As other said, 5 suite night awards would be nice for 25 stay players as well!
But hey, I was lucky enough to be ungraded most time 2011 so no complains.
Anyway, I will get those suite night award in 2013.
Thanks, Starwood!
Maybe, next year please introduce a new promotion such as giving away the same status to spouse.
I am sure my wife allows me to stay more nights!
As other said, 5 suite night awards would be nice for 25 stay players as well!
But hey, I was lucky enough to be ungraded most time 2011 so no complains.
Anyway, I will get those suite night award in 2013.
Thanks, Starwood!
Maybe, next year please introduce a new promotion such as giving away the same status to spouse.
I am sure my wife allows me to stay more nights!
#37
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K MM, AS MVPG, SPG PLAT 100
Posts: 1,497
William, any chance the Plats who narrowly missed 50 nights but had points/C&P stays before the nights "counted" might get some love from SPG? Had a 5 night point stay and 3 night C&P stay just before award nights started counting.
#38
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Programs: AA Plat 2MM, MR Gold, Avis Pref
Posts: 41,109
Whats the pecking order for the upgrade?
the one who made the request first?
I.e., if 2 or more plats request a suite upgrade fir a period where one of the nights overlap.
the one who made the request first?
I.e., if 2 or more plats request a suite upgrade fir a period where one of the nights overlap.
#39
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#40
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Hi William -
I have a reservation for the first week in April that was booked through the Platinum desk for 6 nights in an upgraded room, but not a suite at a resort. Will it be posssible apply these suite nights (after March 1st) to an existing reservation through calling in - or will i have to cancel and rebook?
Thanks!
I have a reservation for the first week in April that was booked through the Platinum desk for 6 nights in an upgraded room, but not a suite at a resort. Will it be posssible apply these suite nights (after March 1st) to an existing reservation through calling in - or will i have to cancel and rebook?
Thanks!
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts
[email protected]
#41
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts
[email protected]
#42
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
A followup to this response: So, +5 days out, once the request is made, a member will be given several options of upgradeable room types, not dependent of availability? I.e. you can see the upgradeable pool of rooms, property-to-property, and decide which room types you are interested in utilizing a suite nite for (you can choose only suites or suites+premium view non suites, etc) ahead of any confirmation? If this is the case, I think this is a great system. I certainly wouldn't want to use one of these nites unless it was an upgrade to a room type I am pleased with.
One more question: Is the pool of upgradeable rooms that Plats choose from under this program the same pool of rooms each property uses to upgrade plats not using their suite nites? Could we conceivably use this program to better understand what rooms are deemed "upgradeable" property to property? (If so, again, this is a great benefit; I find the "upgradeable" room types to vary quite a bit from property to property and it would absolutely help in the pre-planning trips.)...
Whether or not that will assist in understanding what a select standard suite at a given property is, is something that we will all have to discover. In theory though, I suppose it will help.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts
[email protected]
Last edited by Starwood Lurker; Feb 1, 2012 at 9:16 am Reason: add coding
#43
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Bonvoy Amb LTT, HHonors Diamond, AA ExPlat, United Silver
Posts: 641
Hi William, if a reservation is being made within the 5 day stay window (or even if a reservation has already been made prior to 5 days of stay), can one see which suites or select premium rooms are available to book online (within 5 days) that have been assigned by the respective properties and that qualify for the SPG Suite Night Award? I would imagine availability would be based on live inventory? If the answer is yes, then is it fair to say if one selects that specific suite or premium room online, he/she will receive confirmation within the 5 day window? TIA.
Will there be anywhere where the types of rooms available for Suite Nights are shown for a given property?
#44
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
I would have the same question. Can one either see what type of upgrade might be available (5 days in advance) at a given property or call the PLAT desk to have them find out?
Will there be anywhere where the types of rooms available for Suite Nights are shown for a given property?
Will there be anywhere where the types of rooms available for Suite Nights are shown for a given property?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts
[email protected]
#45
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFO
Posts: 886
YES!!! Just checked, and I had 54 nights last year!!!!