Who would be the next Skyteam member?
Apr 13, 2009, 9:51 am
#31
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In 5 years it's also possible that Star Alliance will have broken up into at least two pieces.
They definatively have Mexicana joining in 2009, which is 1 more airline than SkyTeam...
They definatively have Mexicana joining in 2009, which is 1 more airline than SkyTeam...
Apr 13, 2009, 12:22 pm
#32
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Yes but overall percentage-wise 1world has had far more turnover than any of the other alliances (Star and 1world have each lost three, however Star has twice as many members so percentagewise the loss has been less). CO is to date the only partner that ST has ever lost (yeah Copa will probably go with them), while 1world has lost Aerlingus, Canadian and Swiss (very very briefly), Star Alliance has lost Ansett, Varig and Mexicana.
Apr 13, 2009, 1:40 pm
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Another newspaper article from Vietnam stating that Vietnam Airlines has been approved by the governent to join Skyteam in 2010.
Article****
The Prime Minister has just agreed to the proposal of Vietnam Airlines on an additional purchase of 10 passenger planes, the Airbus A321-200, during the period of 2011-2014.
Accordingly, the Vietnamese flag carrier should directly negotiate the details of the contract with the producer.
The Prime Minister also permitted Vietnam Airlines to join SkyTeam, the global airline alliance, and to prepare the necessary groundwork for the accession in 2010.
Still, he requested the carrier to follow the current principles and regulations during the membership.
The Prime Minister also agreed in principle regarding the proposal requiring that organizations and agencies funded by the state budget should use the service of Vietnam Airlines while traveling by air at home and overseas.
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http://army.qdnd.vn/vietnam.economy.enews.24116.qdnd
Article****
The Prime Minister has just agreed to the proposal of Vietnam Airlines on an additional purchase of 10 passenger planes, the Airbus A321-200, during the period of 2011-2014.
Accordingly, the Vietnamese flag carrier should directly negotiate the details of the contract with the producer.
The Prime Minister also permitted Vietnam Airlines to join SkyTeam, the global airline alliance, and to prepare the necessary groundwork for the accession in 2010.
Still, he requested the carrier to follow the current principles and regulations during the membership.
The Prime Minister also agreed in principle regarding the proposal requiring that organizations and agencies funded by the state budget should use the service of Vietnam Airlines while traveling by air at home and overseas.
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http://army.qdnd.vn/vietnam.economy.enews.24116.qdnd
Apr 13, 2009, 5:05 pm
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Yes but overall percentage-wise 1world has had far more turnover than any of the other alliances (Star and 1world have each lost three, however Star has twice as many members so percentagewise the loss has been less). CO is to date the only partner that ST has ever lost (yeah Copa will probably go with them), while 1world has lost Aerlingus, Canadian and Swiss (very very briefly), Star Alliance has lost Ansett, Varig and Mexicana.
- bankruptcy (Ansett, Varig)
- takeover by an airline in another alliance (Canadian)
- conversion to LCC (Aer Lingus)
- leaving because the alliance no longer made sense compared to when you joined it (Mexicana, Continental, Copa and theoretically Swiss)
If you were to use the time over which these happened, you'd say SkyTeam's rate is increasing:
*A - 2001 (Ansett) 2003 (Mexicana) 2006 (Varig)
OW - 2000 (Canadian) 2008 (Aer Lingus)
ST - 2009 (Continental) 2009 (Copa)
but that statistic probably also isn't relevant to how their make up will change in the future.
Apr 13, 2009, 9:52 pm
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Apr 13, 2009, 9:57 pm
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Great! I'm glad to see VN is considering to joining into ST sometime in year of 2010. I can't wait to see more global alliance will be stronger more demand. What about IT or CI will expected to be joins into ST. Is that still in negotiating deal with Skyteam member of the board.
Apr 14, 2009, 8:41 am
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Originally posted by hfly
CO is to date the only partner that ST has ever lost (yeah Copa will probably go with them), while 1world has lost Aerlingus, Canadian and Swiss (very very briefly), Star Alliance has lost Ansett, Varig and Mexicana.
CO is to date the only partner that ST has ever lost (yeah Copa will probably go with them), while 1world has lost Aerlingus, Canadian and Swiss (very very briefly), Star Alliance has lost Ansett, Varig and Mexicana.
Apr 14, 2009, 8:58 am
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Apr 16, 2009, 6:32 pm
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It's great that VN are finally joining something, now giving SkyTeam a slice of the SE Asian market! In a few years SkyTeam would have a great new HUB in Long Thanh, hopefully by then the Vietnamese government won't make transfers so difficult.
Once VN joins it would just pull CI closer to SkyTeam
Once VN joins it would just pull CI closer to SkyTeam
Apr 16, 2009, 11:26 pm
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I am confused also about the the amount of time airlines are taking to decide on an alliance. I personally would like to see China Airlines and Jet Airways in the Skyteam camp but that might take a few years.
