Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 pm
Last edit by: stephem
Fare Rules:
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Code:
FLIGHT APPLICATION
BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
NOTE -
TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.
STOPOVERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS FOR ONE WAY FARES
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADD-ONS PERMITTED
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE
7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATL
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATL
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
SURCHARGES BETWEEN CANADA AND MALAYSIA
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS.
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - ORIGINATING MALAYSIA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 134.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
NOTE -
THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
SALES RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
FOR J- TYPE FARES
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR
OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
PORTIONS.
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
SPECIFIC AGENTS.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
NOTE -
APPLICATION---
FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
[FARE GONE] J PEN-YVR $1758CDN o/w One World and friends. F option available.
Mar 5, 2016, 8:18 am
#17
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Is there a trick to get AA to force flights on JL?
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
Mar 5, 2016, 8:50 am
#18
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,611
Yes...but I'd rather not use it. Have other cards, I prefer.
Anyhow, I got it to work:
1) The flights price out on AA.com. Canadian site included.
2) In my case, the child discount wasn't showing up until I pressed "continue" after selecting which flights. Then it was applied.
3) Some routings showed up, then disappeared. In my case, the 8:40pm departure on MH PEN-KUL, which would connect to a 10:50 JAL departure. Got spooked, but was able to price the 7am departure. Now have a day in KUL.
Stupid question...but since these are refundable fares, I can cancel anytime and gett my money back?
Anyhow, I got it to work:
1) The flights price out on AA.com. Canadian site included.
2) In my case, the child discount wasn't showing up until I pressed "continue" after selecting which flights. Then it was applied.
3) Some routings showed up, then disappeared. In my case, the 8:40pm departure on MH PEN-KUL, which would connect to a 10:50 JAL departure. Got spooked, but was able to price the 7am departure. Now have a day in KUL.
Stupid question...but since these are refundable fares, I can cancel anytime and gett my money back?
Mar 5, 2016, 10:08 am
#20
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Mar 5, 2016, 10:16 am
#21
Join Date: Feb 2014
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I think on AA.com you can get it to price in C$ either by selecting Canada from the countries list in the top right, or when you pay and use a Canadian billing address it'll switch to C$.
For whatever reason, I've found that AA tends to use exchange rates that ever so slightly favor paying in C$ rather than US$, at which point I'm more inclined to pull out a C$ credit card, even though I more often have US$ credit cards that need some spend to trigger bonuses... first world problems I guess
For whatever reason, I've found that AA tends to use exchange rates that ever so slightly favor paying in C$ rather than US$, at which point I'm more inclined to pull out a C$ credit card, even though I more often have US$ credit cards that need some spend to trigger bonuses... first world problems I guess
Mar 5, 2016, 10:44 am
#22
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Where to credit the miles is however a little problematic given that we don't even know how many miles AA will award for partner airlines under the new scheme yet (not determined yet). AA codeshares on CX metal cannot be credited to AS Mileage Plan, so what to do?
Mar 5, 2016, 11:08 am
#23
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Location: yyz
Posts: 1,611
I plan on the AA crediting for my flights. Wife and kids to BA or JAL for Family account. My flight (PEN-KUL-NRT-ORD-YYZ) nets 380 TPs.
Last edited by grandgourmand; Mar 5, 2016 at 11:15 am
Mar 5, 2016, 12:27 pm
#25
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 82
Great fare thanks very much for posting--I view this as a great free option for getting back from Asia to NYC (assuming this is fully refundable, the fare rules I looked at were a little unclear)
Anyone have recs for what to do if you have 24 hours in Penang?
Anyone have recs for what to do if you have 24 hours in Penang?
Mar 5, 2016, 12:43 pm
#26
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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Posts: 6,424
We took one of these when we returned from our honeymoon back in 2009, but started in KUL. The fun part was the routing rules said Northern Pacific but the fare rules did not exclude AA codes on QF. We routed it KUL-SIN-SYD-MEL-LAX for $1700 in J. That fare died shortly after our trip. 
Enjoy this one while you can (i.e. before the blogs "discover" it)
Enjoy this one while you can (i.e. before the blogs "discover" it)
Mar 5, 2016, 5:04 pm
#28
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Mar 5, 2016, 5:25 pm
#29
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As fun as this would be (and BTW, RT is priced at 2x OW, FWIW), just can't swing this one this time. Especially with impending devaluation. Could park miles on AS, but still.
One RT is basically 3/5 the way to EXP though, ha.
One RT is basically 3/5 the way to EXP though, ha.
Mar 5, 2016, 5:57 pm
#30
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