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2/25/2015 - Single payment limit raised to $2999 when using credit or debit cards. Maximum payments per calendar month per individual biller account raised from 1 to 4.

2/18/2015 - Beginning next week, certain debit cards from smaller banks, as well as prepaid debit cards and gift cards will be subject to a 3 percent Bill Pay Fee on each payment.

Evolve now accepts Discover, Visa and Mastercard credit cards with 3% fee.


Debit Cards Not Charged the 3% Fee:
  • Insert here
  • US Bank (but not prepaid)



Transaction Limits:
http://www.evolvemoney.com/transaction-limits/

Daily dollar limits include:
  • $2,999.00 in payments funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 in payments funded by a cash load pack

Individual bill pay dollar limits include:
  • $2999.00 for a single bill funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 for a single bill funded by a cash load pack

Monthly payment limits include:
  • 4 payments per month using a credit or debit card within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Unlimited number of payments per month using a cash load pack within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Maximum of $10,000 total payments per month for credit, debit, and cash load packs combined.

The limits are based on charge date, not payment date.

There are currently no credit cards that can be paid via Evolve.


Tips for Using Evolve
  • No need to register your debit card
  • If your transaction does not go through, you will have to wait for the authorization to fall off your card
  • Using multiple Evolve accounts paying the same biller may lead to your biller being permanently blocked
  • If using GCs with the new scheduling feature, it is important to schedule in such a way that it says your card will be charged today (not on a future date) to prevent a decline; and if you want to avoid the Express Pay fee this also means typically scheduling a few days out (click each date to find one without the fee but still charges your card today).


Mortgages Section
Let us know if payments auto apply to principal or if you have to call

Bank of America: After making 4 payments over the weekend you MUST call (or use online banking messaging) to allocate funds to the regular payment - by default it goes to principal.

Central Mortgage: Appears to go to additional principal payment. YMMV

Chase: Payments with JPMorgan have to fall within a ~5-day window in order for them to be unallocated, otherwise they go to principal. Your window depends on the billing date (usually the 1st of the month). If so, the window is until the 5th, so using Evolve, you have to allow for the payment to post and have it post between ~the 1st and the 5th. PITA

Citi: Made two payments near the end of the month and these were originally "unapplied" and labeled as "additional funds received". A day or two afterwards they moved to principal payments. A quick call to Citi had the payments moved from principal to make up my monthly mortgage payment.

Nationstar Mortgage: Payment applied as an "Additional principal payment" if you sent before the 1st of the month. If you pay after the first, the payment is held until you submit the full payment amount, and then the whole thing is applied to your monthly payment.

PNC: Partial payments will be held aside until payment in full is made. They will send a letter.

Provident Funding: Does not accept partial payments. After month's mortgage is paid, accepts Evolve a additional principal payments.

US Bank: Made 4 payments in June; after a couple of days, payments moved from principal payment to applying to monthly payment w/o a call

Wells Fargo: Two $500 payments day 1, One $500 payment day 2 going over the actual mortgage payment amount due. The payment automatically combined itself to pay the exact amount due once the Third hit. Any amount that was overpaid subsequently went towards principal. Nice to not have to send in the Exact amount, if you don't mind paying some extra principal.


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Old Feb 28, 2015, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Guys is it worth $0.60 (3% fee) to drain a $20 Staples rebate VGC? I mean its not like I can drain it via Serve or anything. Figure its like a cost to MS just like paying a MO fee.
I had a stack of those from the past year (some had lost $3 from inactivity), and drained them all at Target.
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
I had a stack of those from the past year (some had lost $3 from inactivity), and drained them all at Target.
Target auto drains and is a great way to use up random small GCs!
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Target auto drains and is a great way to use up random small GCs!
How exactly would Target auto drain? The pinpad always asks whether I want to charge the entire amount ($500 in my case) to that card. When I hit the change button I'm asked to enter the amount I want charged. I tried it once to charge $250 from a GC and another $250 to my Sallie Mae but it totally confused the cashier. We had to do the whole thing again after I explained that I wanted to split the payment. So IME nothing automatic at all... What was I doing wrong?
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 11:30 am
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For awhile I was paying my approx $2K/mo mortgage via Evolve using $500 VGC's, then the rules changed and I reverted to my old way of paying my mortgage via automatic withdrawals from my checking acct. Although it should have been incredibly obvious to me all along, I only recently caught on to the fact that it's almost as advantageous to pay the mortgage via MO's (especially if you still have a 5% cashback card).
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by Julian Brennan
Originally Posted by jasonvr
Target auto drains and is a great way to use up random small GCs!
How exactly would Target auto drain? The pinpad always asks whether I want to charge the entire amount ($500 in my case) to that card. When I hit the change button I'm asked to enter the amount I want charged. I tried it once to charge $250 from a GC and another $250 to my Sallie Mae but it totally confused the cashier. We had to do the whole thing again after I explained that I wanted to split the payment. So IME nothing automatic at all... What was I doing wrong?
Use credit, it will automatically drain.
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Julian Brennan
How exactly would Target auto drain? The pinpad always asks whether I want to charge the entire amount ($500 in my case) to that card. When I hit the change button I'm asked to enter the amount I want charged. I tried it once to charge $250 from a GC and another $250 to my Sallie Mae but it totally confused the cashier. We had to do the whole thing again after I explained that I wanted to split the payment. So IME nothing automatic at all... What was I doing wrong?
Do not change the amount. Just leave the entire amount in place on the pinpad -- if the card has less than than, it will auto drain.
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 2:08 pm
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You can also drain it from Walmart possibly by purchasing anything. I haven't tried for VGC but Amex gift card does work. Walmart pinpad will ask for another payment if my amex gift card is not enough to cover the total so I don't need to worry about split payment.

Originally Posted by Julian Brennan
How exactly would Target auto drain? The pinpad always asks whether I want to charge the entire amount ($500 in my case) to that card. When I hit the change button I'm asked to enter the amount I want charged. I tried it once to charge $250 from a GC and another $250 to my Sallie Mae but it totally confused the cashier. We had to do the whole thing again after I explained that I wanted to split the payment. So IME nothing automatic at all... What was I doing wrong?
Originally Posted by jonnydoe1234
Do not change the amount. Just leave the entire amount in place on the pinpad -- if the card has less than than, it will auto drain.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by wuchien6401
You can also drain it from Walmart possibly by purchasing anything. I haven't tried for VGC but Amex gift card does work. Walmart pinpad will ask for another payment if my amex gift card is not enough to cover the total so I don't need to worry about split payment.
So does Wags and most grocery stores.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 8:43 am
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by wuchien6401
My pre-scheduled mortgage $999 paid by credit card did work without 3% charge.

I have three more pre-scheduled payments to be processed later.
which cc do you use? does it actually show up as "being" 3% card in evolve but then it didn't go through, or is it showing up as fee free from beginning?
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Iridium7777
which cc do you use? does it actually show up as "being" 3% card in evolve but then it didn't go through, or is it showing up as fee free from beginning?
you are late. Same as wuchien6401, I scheduled several payments using CC (aa citi ms) and the first one went through after deadline without fee. Trying to schedule anything new shows a fee in summary. I only could do 2 - 1 for march, one for april. March one went fine without retroactive fees.
When I added the payments no fee was shown.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by wuchien6401
A couple of 529 plan has been removed. I got an letter from evolve money:

Hello,
The payment on 03/05/2015 cannot be made to Biller New Yorks 529 College Savings Program because: Biller New Yorks 529 College Savings Program is no longer available.
Please login to your account to delete this biller.
If you have any questions, please contact us at [email protected] or 1-866-972-6137.
Thanks,
The Evolve Money Service Team

I login into my account, it looked like Utah 529 plan was removed also. There are still a few 529 plans on the list. Not sure if any other 529 plans are affected. Interest thing: New York 529 College Savings Program Advisor still exists while New York 529 College Savings Program was removed.
My payment to Utah 529 got refunded. So I have to wait for that 500 to go back on my GC. Fortunately I never throw my GCs away.
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Ayase
My payment to Utah 529 got refunded. So I have to wait for that 500 to go back on my GC. Fortunately I never throw my GCs away.
Seriously? That was my last hope to have any use for Evolve as our UESP still shows up and I can still prepare a payment until I get to the actual submitting page. My next funding isn't due for another 2 weeks...
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Old Mar 4, 2015, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Guys is it worth $0.60 (3% fee) to drain a $20 Staples rebate VGC? I mean its not like I can drain it via Serve or anything. Figure its like a cost to MS just like paying a MO fee.
Be thankful you're not having to figure out how to liquidate thousands of dollars worth of rebate cards.
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Old Mar 4, 2015, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by pwned
Be thankful you're not having to figure out how to liquidate thousands of dollars worth of rebate cards.
I don't know how people can obtain thousands of dollars in rebate cards. That is crazy.
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