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Old Apr 9, 2014, 10:37 pm
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2/25/2015 - Single payment limit raised to $2999 when using credit or debit cards. Maximum payments per calendar month per individual biller account raised from 1 to 4.

2/18/2015 - Beginning next week, certain debit cards from smaller banks, as well as prepaid debit cards and gift cards will be subject to a 3 percent Bill Pay Fee on each payment.

Evolve now accepts Discover, Visa and Mastercard credit cards with 3% fee.


Debit Cards Not Charged the 3% Fee:
  • Insert here
  • US Bank (but not prepaid)



Transaction Limits:
http://www.evolvemoney.com/transaction-limits/

Daily dollar limits include:
  • $2,999.00 in payments funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 in payments funded by a cash load pack

Individual bill pay dollar limits include:
  • $2999.00 for a single bill funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 for a single bill funded by a cash load pack

Monthly payment limits include:
  • 4 payments per month using a credit or debit card within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Unlimited number of payments per month using a cash load pack within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Maximum of $10,000 total payments per month for credit, debit, and cash load packs combined.

The limits are based on charge date, not payment date.

There are currently no credit cards that can be paid via Evolve.


Tips for Using Evolve
  • No need to register your debit card
  • If your transaction does not go through, you will have to wait for the authorization to fall off your card
  • Using multiple Evolve accounts paying the same biller may lead to your biller being permanently blocked
  • If using GCs with the new scheduling feature, it is important to schedule in such a way that it says your card will be charged today (not on a future date) to prevent a decline; and if you want to avoid the Express Pay fee this also means typically scheduling a few days out (click each date to find one without the fee but still charges your card today).


Mortgages Section
Let us know if payments auto apply to principal or if you have to call

Bank of America: After making 4 payments over the weekend you MUST call (or use online banking messaging) to allocate funds to the regular payment - by default it goes to principal.

Central Mortgage: Appears to go to additional principal payment. YMMV

Chase: Payments with JPMorgan have to fall within a ~5-day window in order for them to be unallocated, otherwise they go to principal. Your window depends on the billing date (usually the 1st of the month). If so, the window is until the 5th, so using Evolve, you have to allow for the payment to post and have it post between ~the 1st and the 5th. PITA

Citi: Made two payments near the end of the month and these were originally "unapplied" and labeled as "additional funds received". A day or two afterwards they moved to principal payments. A quick call to Citi had the payments moved from principal to make up my monthly mortgage payment.

Nationstar Mortgage: Payment applied as an "Additional principal payment" if you sent before the 1st of the month. If you pay after the first, the payment is held until you submit the full payment amount, and then the whole thing is applied to your monthly payment.

PNC: Partial payments will be held aside until payment in full is made. They will send a letter.

Provident Funding: Does not accept partial payments. After month's mortgage is paid, accepts Evolve a additional principal payments.

US Bank: Made 4 payments in June; after a couple of days, payments moved from principal payment to applying to monthly payment w/o a call

Wells Fargo: Two $500 payments day 1, One $500 payment day 2 going over the actual mortgage payment amount due. The payment automatically combined itself to pay the exact amount due once the Third hit. Any amount that was overpaid subsequently went towards principal. Nice to not have to send in the Exact amount, if you don't mind paying some extra principal.


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Old Feb 26, 2015, 7:09 am
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good news and got me thinking:

does anyone know if the paypal "debit" card will work for these payments through evolve with no fees?

any issues from paypal?

thanks
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by drminn
Evolve is either really stupid or really smart - I suspect a little bit of both. Using this thread to debug their system is a brilliant low cost way to debug their system, the half-assed SW they put out appears to be more of the former.
Really stupid.

They're letting MSers debug? We aren't their target audience.

What we do and what we want does not extrapolate to what they should want as an ideal customer.

That's what I was implying: companies who ignore us are busy making money - they have bigger ideas. We're just the cost of doing business.
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Iridium7777
does anyone know if the paypal "debit" card will work for these payments through evolve with no fees?

any issues from paypal?

thanks
My PPDMC shows a 3% fee.
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by ILGfly
There was nothing stopping you from doing that before this change, it's just now your only real option, so saying you're a huge fan of all the options that were just taken away is kind of stupid.
You are insinuating it was easy to pay a $2500 mortgage before without multiple accounts, being creative to avoid limits, etc? If so, I clearly must have missed that.....

Edit: now that I see ST is a no go on miles, this all sucks bad......
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan
You are insinuating it was easy to pay a $2500 mortgage before without multiple accounts, being creative to avoid limits, etc? If so, I clearly must have missed that.....

Edit: now that I see ST is a no go on miles, this all sucks bad......
easy if you had access to reloadits. Ive been paying my 2000+ mortgage with evolve with reloadits for a long time now.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by hamokmonky
easy if you had access to reloadits. Ive been paying my 2000+ mortgage with evolve with reloadits for a long time now.

Its better to use a Tmo card b/c you'll get the $3.95 fee from the reloadit back.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 5:29 am
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A couple of 529 plan has been removed. I got an letter from evolve money:

Hello,
The payment on 03/05/2015 cannot be made to Biller New Yorks 529 College Savings Program because: Biller New Yorks 529 College Savings Program is no longer available.
Please login to your account to delete this biller.
If you have any questions, please contact us at [email protected] or 1-866-972-6137.
Thanks,
The Evolve Money Service Team

I login into my account, it looked like Utah 529 plan was removed also. There are still a few 529 plans on the list. Not sure if any other 529 plans are affected. Interest thing: New York 529 College Savings Program Advisor still exists while New York 529 College Savings Program was removed.

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Old Feb 27, 2015, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by BoeingOrNotGoing
Its better to use a Tmo card b/c you'll get the $3.95 fee from the reloadit back.
AND the T-Mobile card has billpay functionality.
Just don't overuse it to the point of shut-down, and monitor it to make sure funds arrive.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by AzLarry
My PPDMC shows a 3% fee.
that sucks.. there goes my plan.

so is there a reloadable debit card that doesn't have a fee? anyone willing to share any info?

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Old Feb 27, 2015, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Iridium7777
that sucks.. there goes my plan.

so is there a reloadable debit card that doesn't have a fee? anyone willing to share any info?
A friend looked into their web page code...there's a random embedded list of BIN's they are using on whether to charge the 3%. Friend was unsuccessful at trying to get access to that secret list.
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by pwned
A friend looked into their web page code...there's a random embedded list of BIN's they are using on whether to charge the 3%. Friend was unsuccessful at trying to get access to that secret list.
If they are using the Durbin Amendment list, it might be the same as what the Fed has published.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymen...-standards.htm
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by cbn42
If they are using the Durbin Amendment list, it might be the same as what the Fed has published.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymen...-standards.htm
If it is the same, then there are a couple of commonly used cards that should qualify for exemption from the 3% fee including Suntrust and USB
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 6:21 pm
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Guys is it worth $0.60 (3% fee) to drain a $20 Staples rebate VGC? I mean its not like I can drain it via Serve or anything. Figure its like a cost to MS just like paying a MO fee.
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 6:32 pm
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Hm...hmm.

If only there were some way ... to get a place to take a Visa card.

Think, brain.



WOO-HOO
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Guys is it worth $0.60 (3% fee) to drain a $20 Staples rebate VGC? I mean its not like I can drain it via Serve or anything. Figure its like a cost to MS just like paying a MO fee.
No. Spend the $20. (Most grocery stores for example will drain the card and let you pay the remainder another way.)
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