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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Oct 13, 2013, 11:48 am
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Does anyone know how to have both Serve and BB? The last time I tried I couldn't open a Serve (already had a BB).

And what's with the 1099-K? If we really get one, how do we dispute it with the IRS, and is it going to be a pain in the ...? It is after all not income!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2013, 12:34 pm
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Serve load limit

Sorry of I missed this but cannot find load limits for the "new" Serve card. Anyone find this info? Could be interesting if there are no load limits like BB.
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Old Oct 14, 2013, 11:27 am
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If we can use debit/cash at these CVS/7-11s, doesn't this just make Serve better than Bluebird in the interim horizon has there are A LOT more CVS/7-11s than walmarts

once i find out more details, chances of closing a bluebird account is more than likely.

What are the limits vs Bluebird? (i tried looking on serve.com and it's very vague, i can't find anything on monthly debit limit, etc)
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Old Oct 14, 2013, 2:24 pm
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The updated Terms are now very similar to Amex for Target Prepaid:

The amount of each load to the Card using your Funding Source must be at least $25 and the amount of each load to the Card using Cash Loading Methods must be at least $20. You may load funds to the Card using your Funding Source or Cash Loading Methods until the aggregate balance on your Card (and Cards you purchased for others) equals $2,500, and you may load funds to your Card using Direct Deposit until the aggregate balance on your Card (and Cards you purchased for others) equals $5,000. Not more than $1,000 may be loaded to your Card on any day using Cash Loading methods, not more than $2,500 may be loaded to your Card in any [28-day period] using your Funding Source or Cash Loading Methods, and not more than $5,000 may be loaded to your Card in any month using Direct Deposit. The maximum aggregate balance on your Card (and Cards you purchased for others) at any time may not exceed $5,000

Note that for Credit Card or Debit Card Funding the EXISTING restrictions will still apply:

Max $1000/month and Max $200/day - so OK to do sitting in front of a laptop, but not really worth the effort to go to a CVS only to be able to load $200/day.

Of course if you can buy VR with your credit card - then immediately load onto the Serve card - that's a different story.

What I believe has happened is that Amex have decided to clone the partnership idea they have with Amex Prepaid/TARGET using SERVE with CVS and 7-11, rather than coming up with a "new product" called Amex Prepaid/CVS, 7-11.

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Old Oct 14, 2013, 11:35 pm
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Quoting from a post on another forum -- seems very promising:

"Since I've worked in the Gift Card Processor/Provider field for over a decade, I know of lots of retailers where Credit Cards are not accepted for gift card purchases. In some chains, it varies from store to store. In other retailers, it's programmed into the register as a chain-wide restriction.

First Hand Knowledge Example = I was on a call regarding the launch of a new Prepaid Reloadable Amex at CVS, and American Express representatives ASKED CVS if they were going to restrict the sales to Cash Only. So not only are the credit card companies aware of Cash Only restrictions by major retailers, they have their blessing.

FYI - If anyone cares, the answer was no. So yes, you can use a credit card to reload your Prepaid Amex at CVS (at least for now). Also, Amex is going to announce soon that they are going to waive the load fees from now until the end of the year if you reload at CVS or 7-11."
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Old Oct 16, 2013, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by digital330
FYI, found following in Serve T&C,

"b. Taxes.

As a result of new IRS rules, TRS may be required to report to the IRS and to you on Form 1099K the gross amount paid to you and received into your Account and, as applicable, Sub-Account(s). In order to carry out this required reporting, TRS will require your correct legal name and correct and valid Taxpayer Identification Number (usually your Social Security Number or Employer Identification Number) and, in some cases, a valid and complete Form W-9. Where you do not supply correct information, the IRS notifies us that it does match its records, or as otherwise required by Applicable Law, we will be required to back up withhold 28% of gross payments made to your Account. It is your responsibility to determine what, if any, taxes apply to the payments you make or receive and amounts you need to collect, report, or remit to the appropriate tax authority."
Seeing how most of the time these are transfers of your own personal money, I don't see how this even makes sense!
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Old Oct 16, 2013, 9:14 pm
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I have heard that if you buy a temporary Serve card at CVS, you don't have to provide any personal information thus it will work as AMEX GC. Anyone if this is true or not?

If it is true, then it will be pretty interesting as CVS is offering to waive the purchase fee until 12/31/2013.
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Old Oct 17, 2013, 8:50 am
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Anyone know or find the load limits (day/month) for the new Serve account? I can't seem to find this information anywhere on their site.
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Old Oct 18, 2013, 6:42 pm
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Serve and BB are pretty much the same, you need a different email for each card, since Amex runs both cards.

Serve can be loaded with a CC and their is no fee till after 12/31 at CVS.

No Fee works for me. $500 in $500 out. plus points.

Bought one today.
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Old Oct 19, 2013, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by satman40
Serve and BB are pretty much the same, you need a different email for each card, since Amex runs both cards.

Serve can be loaded with a CC and their is no fee till after 12/31 at CVS.

No Fee works for me. $500 in $500 out. plus points.

Bought one today.
Can you set the pin without register your information to the card?
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Old Oct 19, 2013, 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by appleceo
Can you set the pin without register your information to the card?
No.
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 6:43 am
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If there is even a chance we will be able to load Serve with CC soon, I think I need to register for this card ASAP!

My question is what exactly is the difference from BB? It looks like it is identical to the setup and purpose of BB.

NVM, found this great site if anyone else has the same question! It's dated, but it looks like the only current differences are that Serve can take VR's now and pay bills.
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by satman40
Serve and BB are pretty much the same, you need a different email for each card, since Amex runs both cards.

Serve can be loaded with a CC and their is no fee till after 12/31 at CVS.

No Fee works for me. $500 in $500 out. plus points.

Bought one today.
Unfortunately it looks like you need a different email and phone number. When I tried to register for Serve, they said that my phone number had already been registered...
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by healthnut
Unfortunately it looks like you need a different email and phone number. When I tried to register for Serve, they said that my phone number had already been registered...
Get a Google Voice number?
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by kenme1
Anyone know or find the load limits (day/month) for the new Serve account? I can't seem to find this information anywhere on their site.
https://www.serve.com/help/#/fees-and-limits-1
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