The Points Guy: We never accept free flights [merged TPG discussions]
#151
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TLDR: The original point wasn't to make money, but as their popularity grew, the quality of posts went way down while the amount of credit card ads went way up. That is probably the issue most are discussing here as "selling out".
-LPDAL
#152
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I think I'm going to start calling them template bloggers, since all their posts are predictable. It's like writing an essay in MLA format, everyone knows what structure and or format to expect. I also agree about the lack of personality and personalization. Maximizing travel (at least to me) is about the cultural experiences, what you have learned and how it possibly changed how you view the world at large. You don't see that perspective because they aren't those types of bloggers. It's just vapid fluff with no filling.
Many of them come off snobbish or lack personality because there isn't any personalized connection to their audience. In fact, they don't have an audience, they have followers. Followers who are gullible and baited by words of "free" "easy" "luxury" who want to be just like them and fly first class all the time for "free."
Their followers also ask really "perplexing" questions in the comment sections. Questions like, "How long do I have to wait to sign-up for this card if I had it 32532 months ago?" Those types of questions can be verified so easily. Many times, I even wonder if those types of questions are staged in order to push more CC affiliate links or are they just that intellectually challenged/lazy or both? The thing with a lot of these template bloggers is that their followers or template is never "elevated" to the next level and for good reason on their part.
Once you figure out the basics in anything, you move on to more intermediate or advanced levels. Template bloggers keep their templates elementary, their questions elementary, their answers elementary, their followers are elementary because it keeps it going. There's a HUGE difference in the template blogger that is TPG (etc) compared to a non-template blogger.
Many of them come off snobbish or lack personality because there isn't any personalized connection to their audience. In fact, they don't have an audience, they have followers. Followers who are gullible and baited by words of "free" "easy" "luxury" who want to be just like them and fly first class all the time for "free."
Their followers also ask really "perplexing" questions in the comment sections. Questions like, "How long do I have to wait to sign-up for this card if I had it 32532 months ago?" Those types of questions can be verified so easily. Many times, I even wonder if those types of questions are staged in order to push more CC affiliate links or are they just that intellectually challenged/lazy or both? The thing with a lot of these template bloggers is that their followers or template is never "elevated" to the next level and for good reason on their part.
Once you figure out the basics in anything, you move on to more intermediate or advanced levels. Template bloggers keep their templates elementary, their questions elementary, their answers elementary, their followers are elementary because it keeps it going. There's a HUGE difference in the template blogger that is TPG (etc) compared to a non-template blogger.
#153
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No, I was pointing out that TPG, like FTG, actually sold his blog. It is no longer a hobby or The Hobby at that point, it is a commercial operation.
#154
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#155
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I write trip reports and would never turn my hobby into a venture. Too many inherent caveats IMO.
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#156
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#162
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That can't be a coincidence can it? No idea who started it. Lucky? I've even seen it used on articles that run no longer than 3 sentences. Maybe they've put it there over the guilt of using clickbait titles?
#163
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I get a bit tired of aspirational travel snobs like
- which tell you, must use points for flights instead of cash because of the cpm
(just use money if want to be sure if you want to be on the flight/class)
- can't use points for economy class ever
(if it's an emergency i still fly business/first only not economy)
- you have to stay in this aspirational hotel
(even if it is in the middle of know-where, does the hotel outweigh the destination)
- I value miles at Xcpm..... If they are maybe more or less, people whine as if the blog holds the currency trade standard and miles are (not) smart to use.
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Sunday catch up on blogs done, this was the reaction it provoked
I get a bit tired of aspirational travel snobs like
- which tell you, must use points for flights instead of cash because of the cpm
(just use money if want to be sure if you want to be on the flight/class)
- can't use points for economy class ever
(if it's an emergency i still fly business/first only not economy)
- you have to stay in this aspirational hotel
(even if it is in the middle of know-where, does the hotel outweigh the destination)
- I value miles at Xcpm..... If they are maybe more or less, people whine as if the blog holds the currency trade standard and miles are (not) smart to use.
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Sunday catch up on blogs done, this was the reaction it provoked
#164
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Yes, aspirational air is "easy."
There is often always a way to redeem for premium classes.
But, a good number of the aspirational (5*) hotel properties are independent or not part of a Miles+Points redemption scheme. Off the top of my head, you can't (easily or effectively) redeem points (earned from credit card sign-ups or otherwise) at Aman, Four Seasons, MO, Peninsula or numerous other top tier 5* chains or other smaller luxury aspirational properties.
Hence why you see so much posted on St. Regis (SPG), Park Hyatt (Hyatt) or Waldorf (Hilton) properties. (seems less so for Ritz (Marriott) because a lot of bloggers don't really seem to like Marriott rewards, or at least it seems that way)
HadesNL, I would re-word your quote as :
"- you have to stay in this luxury hotel that is a part of SPG/Gold Passport/Marriot Rewards/Hilton.....
(even if it is in the middle of know-where, does the hotel outweigh the destination)"
Personally, I take great pride in our hotel reviews. Even if, we happen to write one for a property that (sadly) closed..... after closing....
Last edited by baccarat_king; Oct 11, 2015 at 5:22 am
#165
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You took the words out of my mouth haha, still charming and witty since the ikvliegveelFTU.
Indeed weird that marriott rewards is not getting much comparison/reviews, you would have guessed to prove a more weighted opinion bloggers need to take in account all major points programmes.
But to return to TPG topic, was he or OMAAT the first to introduce guest writers aka ditferent viewpoints/varying quality posts?
Indeed weird that marriott rewards is not getting much comparison/reviews, you would have guessed to prove a more weighted opinion bloggers need to take in account all major points programmes.
But to return to TPG topic, was he or OMAAT the first to introduce guest writers aka ditferent viewpoints/varying quality posts?