May 24, 2013, 2:53 am
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
According to EF these are the MCTs for JFK:
LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
DL to DL Connections
- D-D: 35 minutes
- D-I: 45 minutes except 55 minutes if connecting to HAV.
- I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland, AUA, BDA, FPO, or NAS; 1 hour 55 minutes if coming from HAV. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-D times above apply.
- I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland or AUA; 45 minutes if coming from BDA, FPO, or NAS; 2 hours if arriving on a DL-marketed flight that arrives into Terminal 1. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-I times above apply.
DL to/from AF
- DL to AF, D-I: 1 hour 40 minutes until 11/23/23; 1 hour 15 minutes starting 11/24/23
- DL to AF, I-I: 2 hours
- AF to DL, I-D: 2 hours 15 minutes until 12/31/23; 1 hour 45 minutes starting 1/1/24
- AF to DL, I-I: 2 hours
DL to/from KL
- DL to KL, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to KL, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- KL to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- KL to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
DL to/from VS:
- DL to VS, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to VS, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- VS to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- VS to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
Other connections
LA to DL I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes until 7/21/23, 1 hour 35 minutes starting 7/22/23.LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at New York (JFK): The Definitive Thread
Aug 30, 2016, 10:03 am
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(If T2, you have the option of clearing security in T4 then taking a bus, or taking the All Terminals AirTrain one stop and walking a bit to clear security in T2. Both take similar amounts of time if security is not too bad.)
Sep 24, 2016, 3:48 pm
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Checking this for a friend... US pp holder. I am GE and haven't cleared regular PP/CBP in years so wouldn't know how long are wait times.
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Sep 24, 2016, 4:46 pm
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Checking this for a friend... US pp holder. I am GE and haven't cleared regular PP/CBP in years so wouldn't know how long are wait times.
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Sep 24, 2016, 4:53 pm
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Checking this for a friend... US pp holder. I am GE and haven't cleared regular PP/CBP in years so wouldn't know how long are wait times.
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Inbound arrival time: 7:05pm (from AMS)
Carrier: Aer Lingus
Outbound time: 9pm
Carrier: Sun Country
Assuming no checked bags... does this seem fairly doable or cutting it close? This is last flight by SY to final destination. MCT is 1h45min. If the inbound is on time, he clears MCT. How about recent experiences at JFK?
Sep 24, 2016, 11:14 pm
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Might find better luck elsewhere since this is the DL forum but one note...Aer Lingus doesn't fly nonstop to JFK from AMS but assuming it's a flight connecting through Ireland, it may be precleared and arrive at JFK as a domestic flight. Worth some more investigation on the Aer Lingus board or website. If this is two separate tickets this is fairly risky regardless though, a decent Aer Lingus delay and the second flight could be missed.
But thanks for your comments.
Sep 25, 2016, 10:47 am
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US citizen, no global entry.
If I come by Air France 6, business class, landing JFK at 4:20 PM, what is a safe connecting time to book a domestic flight if it is by
(a) Delta,
(b) Jet Blue,
(c) American?
The domestic flight will be on a separate ticket.
Thanks.
If I come by Air France 6, business class, landing JFK at 4:20 PM, what is a safe connecting time to book a domestic flight if it is by
(a) Delta,
(b) Jet Blue,
(c) American?
The domestic flight will be on a separate ticket.
Thanks.
Sep 25, 2016, 11:56 am
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B/C)I would not pick these options. If you just have to do them, I wouldn't do it with anything less then 4 hours. The terminals are further away, and unlike DL, neither B6 nor AA will doing anything (unless you get a generous agent) if you arrive late into JFK on AF.
Sep 27, 2016, 2:43 pm
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T1 has kiosks and mobile passport for US (+etc), so immigration shouldn't be too terrible even without GE.
Sep 28, 2016, 9:44 am
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JFK Term 1 to 3 time
We are on award ticket MXP-JFK on Oct 26 in J. We had to get a separate award ticket JFK- PHX as J wasn't available. Arrive at 1 at 1610 leave 3 at 1830. Different carriers so told by both Alitalia and DL will have to clear immigrations, claim bags and clear customs, then leave secure area and go to 3, check in for our flight and bags, clear security and get to gate. No later flights available. We are Global Entry.
Can we make it? Thanks
Can we make it? Thanks
Sep 28, 2016, 9:57 am
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Terminal 3 Doesn't exist anymore. Your flight from JFK-PHX will leave from either Terminal 2 or Terminal 4.
You're not going to have a lot of time to screw around, but outside of a historically heinous customs or security line going back into 2/4, you should be okay.
With all of that said.....since you have two separate itineraries, you should know that by policy if you miss that JFK-PHX flight it's the equivalent to DL as if you got stuck in traffic on the way to the airport. I've done what you're doing as well, but just know that risk is out there.
You're not going to have a lot of time to screw around, but outside of a historically heinous customs or security line going back into 2/4, you should be okay.
With all of that said.....since you have two separate itineraries, you should know that by policy if you miss that JFK-PHX flight it's the equivalent to DL as if you got stuck in traffic on the way to the airport. I've done what you're doing as well, but just know that risk is out there.
Sep 28, 2016, 9:59 am
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We are on award ticket MXP-JFK on Oct 26 in J. We had to get a separate award ticket JFK- PHX as J wasn't available. Arrive at 1 at 1610 leave 3 at 1830. Different carriers so told by both Alitalia and DL will have to clear immigrations, claim bags and clear customs, then leave secure area and go to 3, check in for our flight and bags, clear security and get to gate. No later flights available. We are Global Entry.
Can we make it? Thanks
Can we make it? Thanks
Regardless with GE this is an easy transfer. If your DL is out of T2 then just turn right and walk to T2, there next to each other. T4 go the the Air train in T1 and take it to T4. If you can get the checkin agent in MXP to tag your luggage all the way. Theyll need the DL confirmation code but AZ shoulf be able to do it. There should be a bag drop at T1, no need to lug baggage.
No need to checkin unless you didn't get a connecting BP at first airport. Just go through security and get to your flight. If they tag you bags through they may be able to issue the BP.
Sep 28, 2016, 10:07 am
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Alitalia and Delta do interline bags. They can interline bags even on separate tickets. It's worth asking when you check in with Alitalia. You still collect bags/see Customs at JFK, then drop bags at a recheck station instead of dragging them over to Delta check-in.
Sep 28, 2016, 11:28 am
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It is risky with only 2:20 between flights. If everything goes smoothly you shouldn't have an issue, but Murphy's law. I had a similar situation last year (but on the same ticket), arrived in T1 on a delayed flight with just over an hour between flights. By the time I cleared customs, dropped my bag at the recheck in T1, and went to T2, cleared security again and caught the DL bus to T4 (I was told by multiple people this was the fastest option), DL was holding my flight for me. My luggage arrived the next day. Luggage transfers can be a bit slow between terminals - if there is anything need in your luggage or don't want to sit overnight carry on.
Sep 28, 2016, 11:36 am
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What is the minimum connecting time at JFK for an Alitalia international arrival to a Delta domestic departure? If it's more than 2 hours, 20 minutes, I think that Alitalia will be reluctant to through-check the bags.
Sep 28, 2016, 11:49 am
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Should be OK. With GE you should be at baggage within 5-10 minutes - with another 15-20 for the luggage to come out (though it can be 30 or more). Transfer to T4 should be 10 minutes - which leave you with sufficient time. I would have a back-up plan though.