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The CSP program rules/agreement (as of 7/24/14; RPC0444_0477) may be found at this landing page or directly at this location.
Changes to U.R. program recently announced. See post #1314.
Ultimate Rewards & CSP Benefit Changes
Jan 10, 2012, 11:25 pm
#526
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa
Posts: 2,611
I found out today that my mom has had the Chase Sapphire card since 7/09. Her old card was automatically switched to the Sapphire and she received no bonus with the Sapphire card. Can she get the 50,000 bonus for opening a Sapphire Preferred card?
Jan 11, 2012, 10:57 am
#527
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 349
I was told by a Chase rep you only can have one Chase Sapphire card(whether its preferred or not)
Jan 11, 2012, 1:03 pm
#529
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 445
Generally if you upgrade a card instead of applying for a new one, you won't get the bonus points. What you can try doing is applying for the preferred, and if/when they reject you, calling the reconsideration line and asking if you can cancel the old card and get the new card plus bonus. No guarantees, but it might work.
Jan 11, 2012, 5:39 pm
#530
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa
Posts: 2,611
Generally if you upgrade a card instead of applying for a new one, you won't get the bonus points. What you can try doing is applying for the preferred, and if/when they reject you, calling the reconsideration line and asking if you can cancel the old card and get the new card plus bonus. No guarantees, but it might work.
I just don't want her to apply, be approved and then not get the bonus because she won't be willing to argue for it like I am. I can't find the above wording anywhere in the T&C, but I might not be looking in the right place. Thanks in advance.
Jan 11, 2012, 9:44 pm
#531
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CA
Programs: AA-EXP, National Exec. Elite, Hilton Gold, GE
Posts: 323
I applied for the 50K, $3K spend, Sapphire Preferred card and was wondering if I can satisfy the minimum spend through a mixture of general purchasing, planned travel and refundable fares? The latter being refunded after the points post and transferred/used.
Jan 12, 2012, 3:07 pm
#532
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 58
As for the refundable fare, the points can take "up to 45 days" to post, so if you buy a refundable ticket, make sure it's for a flight maybe 60 days in advance or more. I've often wondered if you can keep your points for purchases you've returned, so I'm not totally sure how that works. I'd definitely read the fine print on that.
Jan 12, 2012, 3:21 pm
#533
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Texas
Programs: HHonorsDiamond
Posts: 665
You will not get to keep the points if you return something...they are subtracted from your account. So I would be careful with a refundable airfare... it can help you reach the "bonus" but once you get your money back on the card when you cancel they will take out the 2 pts per $ they gave you for the purchase....
Jan 12, 2012, 3:50 pm
#535
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CA
Programs: AA-EXP, National Exec. Elite, Hilton Gold, GE
Posts: 323
You will not get to keep the points if you return something...they are subtracted from your account. So I would be careful with a refundable airfare... it can help you reach the "bonus" but once you get your money back on the card when you cancel they will take out the 2 pts per $ they gave you for the purchase....
I spend $1k on normal purchases and $2k on refundable December travel. As a result, I get 1000+2*(2000) = 5000 points on top of the 50k bonus. When I refund the tickets, Chase will deduct the 4k points, but not the 50K bonus. At the end of the day, I have 51,000 in points.
Jan 12, 2012, 11:26 pm
#537
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Right, which is what I was planning to do, but I've read numerous reports that you can only get a Sapphire bonus once either regular or preferred, or something along the lines of the 50,000 UR points for the Sapphire Preferred are for first time Sapphire cardholder's only. Obviously I don't feel my mother should be excluded as she hasn't received any bonus whatsoever. I didn't even know she had this card and was going to trade points for cash!
I just don't want her to apply, be approved and then not get the bonus because she won't be willing to argue for it like I am. I can't find the above wording anywhere in the T&C, but I might not be looking in the right place. Thanks in advance.
I just don't want her to apply, be approved and then not get the bonus because she won't be willing to argue for it like I am. I can't find the above wording anywhere in the T&C, but I might not be looking in the right place. Thanks in advance.
Chase in general is rather fair in this type of situation. They sometimes even give the differential between the old bonus and the new bonus if you are a targeted customer but you have had bonus before (happened on the airline affinity cards).
Jan 12, 2012, 11:32 pm
#538
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
You can satisfy the $3k by spending it on whatever you want, although you'll get more points on restaurant and travel purchases, as well as purchases made through the Ultimate Rewards mall. I just got 500 points for spending $50 at drugstore.com, so that was nice.
As for the refundable fare, the points can take "up to 45 days" to post, so if you buy a refundable ticket, make sure it's for a flight maybe 60 days in advance or more. I've often wondered if you can keep your points for purchases you've returned, so I'm not totally sure how that works. I'd definitely read the fine print on that.
As for the refundable fare, the points can take "up to 45 days" to post, so if you buy a refundable ticket, make sure it's for a flight maybe 60 days in advance or more. I've often wondered if you can keep your points for purchases you've returned, so I'm not totally sure how that works. I'd definitely read the fine print on that.
I have a canceled hotel booking on Expedia this billing cycle. The booking was made 2 months ago. The credit from Expedia basically offset ALL the current charges on this cycle with $1 net positive balance. The outcome? I got 1 points on this statement - Also because the Expedia is travel related, and the current statement charges are dining related - the bonus from Expedia taken away also offset any bonus earned from dining on the current charges.
Jan 13, 2012, 11:00 am
#539
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: L.A.
Programs: WN A-list & CP, Delta GM
Posts: 448
So if you do this regularly you may essentially double your point earning on general spending.
Assuming you charge, say $3K on non-bonus general spending and $1K on 2x categories per month. Then what you need to do is book hotels (no matter through hotel sites or 3rd party sites) up to $3K every month, and cancel hotel bookings later on.
Of course if you practice this on the regular basis, you account will be shut down. But once a while to get some extra points it shall be fine
Assuming you charge, say $3K on non-bonus general spending and $1K on 2x categories per month. Then what you need to do is book hotels (no matter through hotel sites or 3rd party sites) up to $3K every month, and cancel hotel bookings later on.
Of course if you practice this on the regular basis, you account will be shut down. But once a while to get some extra points it shall be fine
The returned merchandises or canceled flights would result a credit that offset your current charges, regular points and bonus alike.
I have a canceled hotel booking on Expedia this billing cycle. The booking was made 2 months ago. The credit from Expedia basically offset ALL the current charges on this cycle with $1 net positive balance. The outcome? I got 1 points on this statement - Also because the Expedia is travel related, and the current statement charges are dining related - the bonus from Expedia taken away also offset any bonus earned from dining on the current charges.
I have a canceled hotel booking on Expedia this billing cycle. The booking was made 2 months ago. The credit from Expedia basically offset ALL the current charges on this cycle with $1 net positive balance. The outcome? I got 1 points on this statement - Also because the Expedia is travel related, and the current statement charges are dining related - the bonus from Expedia taken away also offset any bonus earned from dining on the current charges.
Jan 13, 2012, 11:24 am
#540
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP / UA Lifetime Gold / Marriott Lifetime Plat / SPG Plat / Hyatt Diamond / HH Diamond / Avis CC
Posts: 483
The returned merchandises or canceled flights would result a credit that offset your current charges, regular points and bonus alike.
I have a canceled hotel booking on Expedia this billing cycle. The booking was made 2 months ago. The credit from Expedia basically offset ALL the current charges on this cycle with $1 net positive balance. The outcome? I got 1 points on this statement - Also because the Expedia is travel related, and the current statement charges are dining related - the bonus from Expedia taken away also offset any bonus earned from dining on the current charges.
I have a canceled hotel booking on Expedia this billing cycle. The booking was made 2 months ago. The credit from Expedia basically offset ALL the current charges on this cycle with $1 net positive balance. The outcome? I got 1 points on this statement - Also because the Expedia is travel related, and the current statement charges are dining related - the bonus from Expedia taken away also offset any bonus earned from dining on the current charges.
