CX to Discontinue DOH from 15 Feb 2016
Dec 31, 2015, 11:38 am
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Dec 31, 2015, 12:32 pm
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But I guess QR is competing with many other carriers for HKG-EMEA traffic. I don't have the figures, but I'd imagine there aren't that many people travelling only between HKG and DOH.
Dec 31, 2015, 1:13 pm
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I think you will see the opposite as QR will still be competing with CX/BA flights. I have never seen it confirmed but I believe the CX/QR arrangement on this route was to both fly the A330, there is no logical reason for QR to continue to send its lower quality product to one of the most important hubs in Asia.
Dec 31, 2015, 2:23 pm
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Dec 31, 2015, 4:24 pm
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I think you will see the opposite as QR will still be competing with CX/BA flights. I have never seen it confirmed but I believe the CX/QR arrangement on this route was to both fly the A330, there is no logical reason for QR to continue to send its lower quality product to one of the most important hubs in Asia.
Dec 31, 2015, 6:29 pm
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Most airlines have no incentive to deploy their best hard product on a route unless a) the route is of serious commercial interest e.g. they wish to gain or protect their market share, AND b) there is real competition, whether direct or indirect.
On the DOH HKG route, I hope the argument for gaining market share from EK is of interest to QR. Otherwise they'll behave like a good monopolist with no incentive to roll out their latest and greatest hard product as the consumer has little choice.
Dec 31, 2015, 9:23 pm
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QR now has flat beds on all its longhaul fleet, with the exception of one A333 and a couple of A332 (to be retired). QR flies A332 to HKG and I don't think that they fly the slanty bed version to HKG (has not in the past month). The A332 has two versions of flat bed:
- The BE minipod with 2x2x2, same as on 777. These are very spacy although by pair (3 rows in the first cabin). Perfect for a couple.
- The BE Diamond 2x2x2. These are very narrow and they cram 4 rows in the first cabin. Still flat bed, but CX is much better IMO.
HKG gets an even chance for each.
There are rumours that they will substitute a 787, which would be great.
- The BE minipod with 2x2x2, same as on 777. These are very spacy although by pair (3 rows in the first cabin). Perfect for a couple.
- The BE Diamond 2x2x2. These are very narrow and they cram 4 rows in the first cabin. Still flat bed, but CX is much better IMO.
HKG gets an even chance for each.
There are rumours that they will substitute a 787, which would be great.
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Jan 1, 2016, 12:37 am
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I'd expect the opposite. Every other major APAC destination gets the A350/787/777 so i expect HKG will too. HKG is a major destination for European passengers and they will want to fight for all that traffic.
Jan 1, 2016, 8:17 am
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The A332 has two versions of flat bed:
- The BE minipod with 2x2x2, same as on 777. These are very spacy although by pair (3 rows in the first cabin). Perfect for a couple.
- The BE Diamond 2x2x2. These are very narrow and they cram 4 rows in the first cabin. Still flat bed, but CX is much better IMO.
- The BE minipod with 2x2x2, same as on 777. These are very spacy although by pair (3 rows in the first cabin). Perfect for a couple.
- The BE Diamond 2x2x2. These are very narrow and they cram 4 rows in the first cabin. Still flat bed, but CX is much better IMO.
I've only experienced the Diamond seats once before (on an AA Transcontinental A321) and thought they were quite narrow. They certainly aren't as good as the Super Diamond seat QR are installing on their A380s/A350s/787s.
Jan 1, 2016, 7:50 pm
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I thought the Minipod seats were angled and were being replaced by the Diamond fully flat seats?
I've only experienced the Diamond seats once before (on an AA Transcontinental A321) and thought they were quite narrow. They certainly aren't as good as the Super Diamond seat QR are installing on their A380s/A350s/787s.
I've only experienced the Diamond seats once before (on an AA Transcontinental A321) and thought they were quite narrow. They certainly aren't as good as the Super Diamond seat QR are installing on their A380s/A350s/787s.
Yes, The Super Diamond solo seats on A380s/A350s/787s are indeed better.
Jan 7, 2016, 7:58 am
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The ac used is always a lottery on QR even on short notice. Forecasts of the ac used 10 months from now is divination!
Sad that they do not introduce 787s earlier. But they might.
Sad that they do not introduce 787s earlier. But they might.
Jan 7, 2016, 9:34 am
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They are currently dealing with slow A350 deliveries and expanding their fleet rapidly so you can probably understand its quite a challenge to deal with fleet allocation.