Jan 12, 2015, 2:30 pm
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Here is a guide as to the best and worst seats in First, Club World, World Traveller Plus and World Traveller on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Please ask your questions here, and hopefully someone will be able to help!
NB. The new 787-8 configuration is covered in the separate BA Boeing 787-8 (with Club Suites): Which are the best seats? thread
The following 787 seat maps have been prepared for quick comparison and reference
MMB/Expertflyer Aircraft Codes:
788 = Boeing 787-8
789 = Boeing 787-9
781 = Boeing 787-10
Boeing 787-8
Type 78B
Three class: 35J 25W 154M
G-ZBJA G-ZBJB G-ZBJC G-ZBJD G-ZBJE G-ZBJF G-ZBJG G-ZBJH G-ZBJI G-ZBJJ G-ZBJK G-ZBJM (12)
2006 CW, 2010 WTP, 2010 WT and Thales IFE
Boeing 787-9
Type 789
Four class: 8F 42J 39W 127M
G-ZBKA G-ZBKB G-ZBKC G-ZBKD G-ZBKE G-ZBKF G-ZBKG G-ZBKH G-ZBKI G-ZBKJ G-ZBKK G-ZBKL G-ZBKM G-ZBKN G-ZBKO G-ZBKP G-ZBKR G-ZBKS (18)
2015 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WTP, 2010 WT and Thales IFE
Boeing 787-10
Type 78X?
Four class: 8F 48J 35W 165M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-ZBLA G-ZBLB G-ZBLC G-ZBLD G-ZBLE G-ZBLF G-ZBLG (7)
2015 First, 2019 CWS, 2018 WTP, 2018 WT and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Boeing 787-8 seating comments
As an aside note: The lavatories on the aircraft have handles to open, rather than a push the door mechanism (as found on the 777). The flush also uses a sensor rather than a button. This has potential to cause confusion at an inopportune moment.
B787-8 Club World:
The front CW cabin is quieter, and better for service than the mid cabin.
1 & 2 D/F: There is no overhead locker space, as it is taken up by the crew rest. The foot stools on these seats are also at risk of being bumped by a trolley, although they are semi-protected.
3A & K: These are the official C-W-S recommended seats. They have a little extra room, and direct aisle access, as well as good window views.
6A & J: These are recommended, as they are the longest, and offer the greatest legroom, as well as being ideally positioned for getting off the aircraft.
6D & F: These also offer an extra 3 inches of legroom.
7A & K: These have a little extra room, and direct aisle access. Ideal for those wishing to sleep. Unfortunately, these seats do only have 2 windows, one fewer than other seats.
B787-8 World Traveller Plus:
Passengers use the WT toilets, which does require a walk back through one of the WT cabins.
If you are worried about catering/meal options, it is recommended to sit towards the front of the cabin, as this is where the service starts.
An interesting video trip report can be found here.
10A-K: Recommended due to the extra legroom.
B787-8 World Traveller:
BA 787 Economy Class Comfort & Health Warning
Reviews for World Traveller on the BA 787 (and indeed many other airlines) seem to largely agree the experience is not pleasant, with 9 seats across in a cabin more ideally suited for 8. The seat is smaller than the WT seat fitted to any other BA aircraft, and this can be felt, especially if you have broader shoulders. Seat pitch is also tight, at only 31 inches. The rear 5 rows are reported to have a slightly tighter pitch than the others.
30 A & K are to be avoided: the emergency exit infringes on your personal space both at upper body and foot level.
30B-J: Recommended due to the extra legroom.
HJK seats in rows 31 to 34 have 1’ more legroom than standard rows
A, C, D, F, H, K seats: an IFE box is under the seat in front of you, which infringes on legroom. Please see the photograph below.
Boeing 787-9 seating comments:
As an aside note: The lavatories on the aircraft have handles to open, rather than a push the door mechanism (as found on the 777). The flush also uses a sensor rather than a button. This has potential to cause confusion at an inopportune moment.
B787-9 First:
2K: Recommended by ThatT1Feeling. Quieter side of a/c and away from galley.
1E/F: Recommended for couples by All She Wrote.
B787-9 Club World:
7A/K: Recommended by CWS.
B787-9 World Traveller Plus:
No seats have limited recline.
21 A, B, J and K - Missing window (last window in cabin near row 20's head) + near toilets
B787-9 World Traveller:
The width of the WT seats on the B789 is marginally greater than on the B788 (owing to reduced aisle width on the former).
However...
BA 787 Economy Class Comfort & Health Warning
Reviews for World Traveller on the BA 787 (and indeed many other airlines) seem to largely agree the experience is not pleasant, with 9 seats across in a cabin more ideally suited for 8. The seat is smaller than the WT seat fitted to any other BA aircraft, and this can be easily felt, especially if you have broader shoulders.
A, C, D, F, H, K seats: an IFE box is under the seat in front of you, which infringes on legroom.
41A/K: No window.
43A/K: Increased space between seat & cabin wall.
Boeing 787-10 seating comments:
B787-10 Club World:
From porphyra's post:
6A/K window seats have one set of windows only, across the seat. The second further window adjacent to the screen/display that all other seats have is missing - this might be an issue for some people but I preferred it as there was likely less glare on the screen. The issue is that if you like to look out then you almost need to turn your head 90 degrees vs a slant 30-45 to look across the other window.
From corporate-wage-slave's post:
Bulkheads do have more vibration transmission compared to other seats, but that's almost looking for something to say. Essentially all CS is the same, with the only difference between window or middle seating.
B787-10 World Traveller Plus:
From Nil SeAnn's post:
All seats, even in the rearmost row 24, have very significant recline such that my head never fell forward during sleep.
20J/K have great legroom, but [20]D,E&F have even more legroom.
As I sat into 24F to try out the back row, a helpful F/A warned me that I would not be happy with the noise from the bathroom immediately behind the bulkhead to my rear. I thought to myself - how bad could it be? Well it was awful and I lasted about 10 minutes before moving again.
The toilet is oriented facing the rear of the plane and mounted to the WT+ bulkhead. I estimate it is probably only a foot or so from the back of the seat when fully reclined! If you plan an overnight flight I suggest you absolutely avoid 24D,E or F if you hope to get some sleep.
B787-10 World Traveller:
Far rear row of 48 does not recline.
The wall at seats 30A and 30K curves inward which limits the leg room for the leg closer to the wall. See post 1395 for photo.
Related threads:
NB. The new 787-8 configuration is covered in the separate BA Boeing 787-8 (with Club Suites): Which are the best seats? thread
The following 787 seat maps have been prepared for quick comparison and reference
MMB/Expertflyer Aircraft Codes:
788 = Boeing 787-8
789 = Boeing 787-9
781 = Boeing 787-10
Boeing 787-8
Type 78B
Three class: 35J 25W 154M
G-ZBJA G-ZBJB G-ZBJC G-ZBJD G-ZBJE G-ZBJF G-ZBJG G-ZBJH G-ZBJI G-ZBJJ G-ZBJK G-ZBJM (12)
2006 CW, 2010 WTP, 2010 WT and Thales IFE
Boeing 787-9
Type 789
Four class: 8F 42J 39W 127M
G-ZBKA G-ZBKB G-ZBKC G-ZBKD G-ZBKE G-ZBKF G-ZBKG G-ZBKH G-ZBKI G-ZBKJ G-ZBKK G-ZBKL G-ZBKM G-ZBKN G-ZBKO G-ZBKP G-ZBKR G-ZBKS (18)
2015 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WTP, 2010 WT and Thales IFE
Boeing 787-10
Type 78X?
Four class: 8F 48J 35W 165M; fitted with new Club World Suites
G-ZBLA G-ZBLB G-ZBLC G-ZBLD G-ZBLE G-ZBLF G-ZBLG (7)
2015 First, 2019 CWS, 2018 WTP, 2018 WT and Panasonic ex3 IFE
Boeing 787-8 seating comments
As an aside note: The lavatories on the aircraft have handles to open, rather than a push the door mechanism (as found on the 777). The flush also uses a sensor rather than a button. This has potential to cause confusion at an inopportune moment.
B787-8 Club World:
The front CW cabin is quieter, and better for service than the mid cabin.
1 & 2 D/F: There is no overhead locker space, as it is taken up by the crew rest. The foot stools on these seats are also at risk of being bumped by a trolley, although they are semi-protected.
3A & K: These are the official C-W-S recommended seats. They have a little extra room, and direct aisle access, as well as good window views.
6A & J: These are recommended, as they are the longest, and offer the greatest legroom, as well as being ideally positioned for getting off the aircraft.
6D & F: These also offer an extra 3 inches of legroom.
7A & K: These have a little extra room, and direct aisle access. Ideal for those wishing to sleep. Unfortunately, these seats do only have 2 windows, one fewer than other seats.
B787-8 World Traveller Plus:
Passengers use the WT toilets, which does require a walk back through one of the WT cabins.
If you are worried about catering/meal options, it is recommended to sit towards the front of the cabin, as this is where the service starts.
An interesting video trip report can be found here.
10A-K: Recommended due to the extra legroom.
B787-8 World Traveller:
BA 787 Economy Class Comfort & Health Warning
Reviews for World Traveller on the BA 787 (and indeed many other airlines) seem to largely agree the experience is not pleasant, with 9 seats across in a cabin more ideally suited for 8. The seat is smaller than the WT seat fitted to any other BA aircraft, and this can be felt, especially if you have broader shoulders. Seat pitch is also tight, at only 31 inches. The rear 5 rows are reported to have a slightly tighter pitch than the others.
30 A & K are to be avoided: the emergency exit infringes on your personal space both at upper body and foot level.
30B-J: Recommended due to the extra legroom.
HJK seats in rows 31 to 34 have 1’ more legroom than standard rows
A, C, D, F, H, K seats: an IFE box is under the seat in front of you, which infringes on legroom. Please see the photograph below.
Boeing 787-9 seating comments:
As an aside note: The lavatories on the aircraft have handles to open, rather than a push the door mechanism (as found on the 777). The flush also uses a sensor rather than a button. This has potential to cause confusion at an inopportune moment.
B787-9 First:
2K: Recommended by ThatT1Feeling. Quieter side of a/c and away from galley.
1E/F: Recommended for couples by All She Wrote.
B787-9 Club World:
7A/K: Recommended by CWS.
B787-9 World Traveller Plus:
No seats have limited recline.
21 A, B, J and K - Missing window (last window in cabin near row 20's head) + near toilets
B787-9 World Traveller:
The width of the WT seats on the B789 is marginally greater than on the B788 (owing to reduced aisle width on the former).
However...
BA 787 Economy Class Comfort & Health Warning
Reviews for World Traveller on the BA 787 (and indeed many other airlines) seem to largely agree the experience is not pleasant, with 9 seats across in a cabin more ideally suited for 8. The seat is smaller than the WT seat fitted to any other BA aircraft, and this can be easily felt, especially if you have broader shoulders.
A, C, D, F, H, K seats: an IFE box is under the seat in front of you, which infringes on legroom.
41A/K: No window.
43A/K: Increased space between seat & cabin wall.
Boeing 787-10 seating comments:
B787-10 Club World:
From porphyra's post:
6A/K window seats have one set of windows only, across the seat. The second further window adjacent to the screen/display that all other seats have is missing - this might be an issue for some people but I preferred it as there was likely less glare on the screen. The issue is that if you like to look out then you almost need to turn your head 90 degrees vs a slant 30-45 to look across the other window.
From corporate-wage-slave's post:
Bulkheads do have more vibration transmission compared to other seats, but that's almost looking for something to say. Essentially all CS is the same, with the only difference between window or middle seating.
B787-10 World Traveller Plus:
From Nil SeAnn's post:
All seats, even in the rearmost row 24, have very significant recline such that my head never fell forward during sleep.
20J/K have great legroom, but [20]D,E&F have even more legroom.
As I sat into 24F to try out the back row, a helpful F/A warned me that I would not be happy with the noise from the bathroom immediately behind the bulkhead to my rear. I thought to myself - how bad could it be? Well it was awful and I lasted about 10 minutes before moving again.
The toilet is oriented facing the rear of the plane and mounted to the WT+ bulkhead. I estimate it is probably only a foot or so from the back of the seat when fully reclined! If you plan an overnight flight I suggest you absolutely avoid 24D,E or F if you hope to get some sleep.
B787-10 World Traveller:
Far rear row of 48 does not recline.
The wall at seats 30A and 30K curves inward which limits the leg room for the leg closer to the wall. See post 1395 for photo.
Related threads:
Seating guide: Boeing 787 Dreamliner
Sep 17, 2016, 4:33 am
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Having just completed my first BA CW 788 return (CAI-LHR-CAI, outbound 9/9, inbound 16/9 - seat 3A both ways) I've got to say that if 3A is considered to be one of the best seats I hate to think what it's like sitting in the worst seats.
While legroom and unobstructed aisle access are both plus points the seat feels incredibly narrow and restricted in terms of personal space, particularly with the divider raised.
This isn't intended as a BA-bashing comment (last night's crew were absolutely brilliant) but I defy anyone who has flown 788 J on both BA and QR to remotely favourably compare the former with the latter. When it comes to seat layout it's just no contest - the sooner BA ditches their long-outdated CW cabin layout in favour of something like QR's the better.
At least on the CAI route the 788 CW cabin is a vast improvement on the 763.
While legroom and unobstructed aisle access are both plus points the seat feels incredibly narrow and restricted in terms of personal space, particularly with the divider raised.
This isn't intended as a BA-bashing comment (last night's crew were absolutely brilliant) but I defy anyone who has flown 788 J on both BA and QR to remotely favourably compare the former with the latter. When it comes to seat layout it's just no contest - the sooner BA ditches their long-outdated CW cabin layout in favour of something like QR's the better.
At least on the CAI route the 788 CW cabin is a vast improvement on the 763.
Sep 17, 2016, 10:38 am
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Do we know if row 39 reclines fully? and how much space is there next to J? Last time i flew the 787 we sat in row 30 and I had middle seat and couldnt even sit in my seat due to the narrowness of the seats.
I will be traveling with my wife and 1 1/2 year old daughter and would either pick 39H and J or 20 e and f
Advice?
I will be traveling with my wife and 1 1/2 year old daughter and would either pick 39H and J or 20 e and f
Advice?
are you responding to the WT+ question or mine? or both?
Sep 17, 2016, 11:09 am
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There are probably not that many on here who would have sat in Y or/and that far back. Here is a Video which shows at 3:33 the paired seats and it looks like they have limited recline. The seats are a mirror image of the JK side.
corporate-wage-slave sat in row 20 and included a review which is documented here and is an excellent guide with photos. Here is 20 E/F and I'd personally go for that, nearer the front, less turbulence and away from loos as well as 20D having a solid barrier leaving the 2 seats to yourselves as here.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...y-soon-16.html (scroll down)
I think CIHY was referring to WT+ and AIUI there are no seats with limited recline there across the different aircraft types.
corporate-wage-slave sat in row 20 and included a review which is documented here and is an excellent guide with photos. Here is 20 E/F and I'd personally go for that, nearer the front, less turbulence and away from loos as well as 20D having a solid barrier leaving the 2 seats to yourselves as here.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...y-soon-16.html (scroll down)
I think CIHY was referring to WT+ and AIUI there are no seats with limited recline there across the different aircraft types.
Sep 17, 2016, 11:51 am
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Liked the mini CW cabin at the front of the 787-8
It felt like the F section of the 787-9 but this time there were 3 loos to chose from and the front galley is pretty much deserted.
Had seats 1J/K which are very quiet as the mini cabin works almost in reverse with activity coming from the back
It felt like the F section of the 787-9 but this time there were 3 loos to chose from and the front galley is pretty much deserted.
Had seats 1J/K which are very quiet as the mini cabin works almost in reverse with activity coming from the back
Oct 11, 2016, 3:58 am
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Oct 11, 2016, 6:30 am
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Oct 11, 2016, 6:43 am
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I think the conventional wisdom is that it's polite to have them down for TO and landing so that the inner-sitters can see the ground (for nervousness reasons etc.) but aside from that there's no reason for them to be set that way.
Oct 11, 2016, 6:48 am
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absolutely. Someone just asked that on a certain facebook site, seemed they enjoyed the flight too. The only thing is the first time i nearly had a heart attack when the plane touched down as i thought we were still well up in the air! I've tried since not to look out a window on landing but can't help it, just used to doing so!! 7E cocoons you in and....surprise!
ps i always thought it was down for the safety briefing at least but curiously take off and landing too so happy days as i'll take CIHY's statement as gospel (but not argue if asked by crew otherwise).
ps i always thought it was down for the safety briefing at least but curiously take off and landing too so happy days as i'll take CIHY's statement as gospel (but not argue if asked by crew otherwise).
Oct 11, 2016, 12:43 pm
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Was in 7A last night from KUL. No bother from galley or toilet at all. However, I was disappointed the windows were locked fully dimmed before take off. Thy weren't locked for landing however.
Back in June same route I ate in 7D then slept in 6E...I had all DEF seats all to myself!
Those middle E seats do have more width room and I'm undecided which is my favourite, window or middle seat. I really like the 787-9. I notice the differences with less dehydration etc.
Back in June same route I ate in 7D then slept in 6E...I had all DEF seats all to myself!
Those middle E seats do have more width room and I'm undecided which is my favourite, window or middle seat. I really like the 787-9. I notice the differences with less dehydration etc.
Oct 19, 2016, 11:54 pm
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Does anyone have advise on which seats on the 787-9 have more legroom in the lie-flat position? Normally this would be the bulkhead seats that don't have a barrier around the footrest but not sure on this plane?
Someone mentioned 6F (which I have currently booked), but one of the pics further up thread seems to show 6D as having a barrier, so not sure if this is mirrored on the other side! Does 7A for example also have extra legroom?
Someone mentioned 6F (which I have currently booked), but one of the pics further up thread seems to show 6D as having a barrier, so not sure if this is mirrored on the other side! Does 7A for example also have extra legroom?