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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jan 17, 2017, 3:45 pm
          #4381  
        Shl
         
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        Can anybody help please with load for
        BA0011 LHR - SIN 7:05 pm 18/01/2017

        many thanks
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        Old Jan 17, 2017, 4:35 pm
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        Originally Posted by Shl
        Can anybody help please with load for
        BA0011 LHR - SIN 7:05 pm 18/01/2017

        many thanks
        Hello! Yes, for BA0011 to Singapore on 18/1/2017 it's as follows with a UK POS:

        F0 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B5 H4 K3 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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        Old Jan 17, 2017, 4:42 pm
          #4383  
        Shl
         
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        Thank you geordie405 !
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        Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:22 am
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        A little OT, but EF now shows POS not only for UK and US, but also Germany, Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia.
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        Old Jan 19, 2017, 7:29 am
          #4385  
         
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        Anybody able to let me know the loads for UK POS for BA734 (LHR - GVA @ 15:00) on 26th January 2017 please?
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        Old Jan 19, 2017, 7:32 am
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        Originally Posted by c1223
        anybody able to let me know the loads for uk pos for ba734 (lhr - gva @ 15:00) on 26th january 2017 please?
        ba 734
        lhr 26/01/17 15:00
        gva 26/01/17 17:45
        319
        j9 c4 d2 y3 b1 h0 k0 m0 g0
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        Old Jan 19, 2017, 7:54 am
          #4387  
         
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        Thanks. Look like it'll be a struggle to get a reward seat on that.....
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        Old Jan 20, 2017, 2:37 pm
          #4388  
         
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        Ba 109 lhr - dxb 22 jan

        Hello,

        Booked in WTP+ on Sunday's BA 109 - did a dummy Y booking and only 5 seats showed up in Seat Map.

        What are the loads like for the 109?

        Thanks!
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        Old Jan 20, 2017, 5:10 pm
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        Originally Posted by BarbicanLondon
        Hello,

        Booked in WTP+ on Sunday's BA 109 - did a dummy Y booking and only 5 seats showed up in Seat Map.

        What are the loads like for the 109?

        Thanks!
        As stated in the Wiki it's really helpful to post the origin and destination of the flight you're asking about. Not everyone knows that BA109 is LHR - DXB. Anyway, that aside:

        BA109 LHR - DXB on Sunday 22nd January (UK POS): F1 A1 J7 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E4 T4 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        Hope that helps!
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        Old Jan 21, 2017, 8:19 am
          #4390  
         
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        I would be grateful if someone could check the following for me:

        LHR SAN BA 273 7 Feb
        SAN LHR BA 272 19 Feb
        SAN LHR BA 272 20 Feb

        Many thanks as ever!
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        Old Jan 21, 2017, 8:40 am
          #4391  
         
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        BA273 F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R8 I6 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S7 N5 Q5 O9 G0
        BA272(19th) F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N1 Q3 O9 G8
        BA272(20th) F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R7 I3 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Jan 21, 2017, 10:22 am
          #4392  
         
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        Thank you!

        This is interesting as WTP fares (E class) are around 900 each way

        Originally Posted by DrGee
        BA273 F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R8 I6 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S7 N5 Q5 O9 G0
        BA272(19th) F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N1 Q3 O9 G8
        BA272(20th) F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R7 I3 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Jan 21, 2017, 10:06 pm
          #4393  
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        If anyone could help check RJ 182 on 31/1, BKK-HKG. Thanks!
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        Old Jan 22, 2017, 2:08 am
          #4394  
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        Originally Posted by jdtravels
        if anyone could help check rj 182 on 31/1, bkk-hkg. Thanks!
        rj 182 0 bkk
        01/31/17 3:25 pm hkg
        01/31/17 7:00 pm 787
        j1 zc cl dc ic yl bl pl hl wl kl rl ml lc vc sc nc qc oc
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        Old Jan 22, 2017, 4:40 am
          #4395  
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        Would someone mind checking the BA105 LHR-DXB on 03/02

        Thanks in advance
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